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flerp prob replaced out because he knew he was scum, vote quid ##vote quid
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:29 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:19 |
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Mr. Humalong posted:5 scum in a 13 player game seems...like a lot? not scum in the traditional sense, but in the sense of, we should hunt them and they would be wise to not reveal their status as centrites
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:33 |
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Squiggly posted:So what you're saying is that Obama is aligned with Thanos and Yoda, while Thanos is aligned with Keanu and Obama, etc etc etc well, yes and no. we know this for a fact: -obama wants to eliminate keanu. -keanu wants to eliminate obama. -thanos wants to eliminate yoda. -yoda wants to eliminate thanos. but just because yoda and keanu don't have many conflicting interests (the only one being the lives of yoda+obama and thanos+keanu), doesnt mean they're aligned. because only one faction can win the game. notice how it says in your wincon that the game will end as soon as you win. that means if another factions wins before you, you lose.
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:36 |
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Why do you consider the centrites scum considering they probably have multiple wincons?
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:41 |
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SalTheBard posted:Why do you consider the centrites scum considering they probably have multiple wincons? because they are the only 5 with wincons directly opposed to one another. being aligned with thanos AND yoda makes you, in effect, sort of like a survivor in a vanilla maf game, except who knows if they have to be alive. they probably do, or otherwise yodomakeanos would kinda auto-win
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:43 |
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like, yes "yoda+obama" has conflicting wincons in the sense that they cant both trigger. but his motivations during the game wont be in conflict with either wincon. the centrites on the other hand, cannot possibly act in good faith for all of their wincons
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:46 |
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what if the center one is sk
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:48 |
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Mr. Humalong posted:what if the center one is sk actually, good point. every single faction wincon needs him dead, so he cant possibly have any of them as wincons...
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:49 |
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Mr. Steak posted:actually, good point. every single faction wincon needs him dead, so he cant possibly have any of them as wincons... possibly he needs to be the last one standing, but i think more likely he'll win if he eliminates all 4 vanillas
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:52 |
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we should probably vote out bowmore now cause they ain't ever gonna post ##vote bowmore
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 22:54 |
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Mr. Humalong posted:we should probably vote out bowmore now cause they ain't ever gonna post ##vote no lynch
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 23:05 |
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[quote="Mr. Humalong" post="497158738"] we should probably vote out bowmore now cause they ain't ever gonna post ##vote bowmore [/quote
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 23:06 |
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Mr. Steak posted:actually, good point. every single faction wincon needs him dead, so he cant possibly have any of them as wincons... Or they are a survivor since they also technically win with every faction.
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 23:36 |
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Mr. Steak posted:actually, good point. every single faction wincon needs him dead, so he cant possibly have any of them as wincons... This is untrue I think. You've got keen insight, but your centrite theory is probably wrong.
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 23:42 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:This is untrue I think. You've got keen insight, but your centrite theory is probably wrong. ok yobamakeanos
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 23:53 |
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Mr. Humalong posted:ok yobamakeanos by the way I am super pissed at Lumpen because this is clearly the correct spelling and not the abomination he used
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 23:56 |
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Mr. Humalong posted:ok yobamakeanos Alas, not I. If that is the true scum.
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 00:04 |
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SalTheBard posted:Or they are a survivor since they also technically win with every faction. but they dont, assuming every faction wincon is phrased the same way. he is all 4 aspects
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 00:07 |
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its obviously a good idea to keep our specific roles a secret, but ask yourself: why are you afraid of claiming which generation you are? me, i'm certainly not a centrite, but im uncomfortable claiming whether i'm a 1st or 2nd generation because in the former case i'd reveal i only have 1 faction that cares about my life, and in the 2nd case, im an obstacle to way more people. in the case of centrites, the reason you dont want to say is because the majority would find it expedient to lynch you.
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 00:14 |
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poo poo, you know what, im actually stupid. this doesnt negate anything i've said about centrites being expedient to find and kill, but my same argument about yobo also applies to the other 4. they cant possibly win with either of their 2 rival factions, based on the phrasing of the wincon. or at least, the rest of the faction wouldnt achieve their wincon.
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 00:19 |
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Mr. Steak posted:its obviously a good idea to keep our specific roles a secret, but ask yourself: why are you afraid of claiming which generation you are? me, i'm certainly not a centrite, but im uncomfortable claiming whether i'm a 1st or 2nd generation because in the former case i'd reveal i only have 1 faction that cares about my life, and in the 2nd case, im an obstacle to way more people. The way you've dissected this game is marvelous steak.
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 00:20 |
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that actually makes me more sure than ever that the centrites share a unique wincon. probably, w the exception of yobo, they all have 2 wincons (and nobody in the game has more than 2): the faction wincon they dont contradict, and a centrite wincon
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 00:23 |
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Obams don’t care for your fraud on the minority, Steak.
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 00:44 |
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Squiggly posted:My role PM specifically advised against this same (except the vote atm, but same about the rest)
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 02:57 |
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[quote="Quidthulhu" post="497151574"] ##vote Steak ROOOOOLLLIIING STAAAAAAAAAT https://youtu.be/pls6OyJpCWg /quote]
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:00 |
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i kept reading and then i was ready to vote
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:00 |
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Mr. Steak posted:thats the scum third vote ##vote aa dude.... im sorry but this isn't helping your case imo
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:01 |
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Mr. Steak posted:in all seriousness though, let's think. in vanilla mafia, people with an incentive to turbo a random person on d1 are considered scummy because 1) scum knows whether or not the kill will advance their win condition, and 2) their wincon requires the majority of players to die. i want you to die but not if you're one of my genetic dopplegangers, but don't tell me if you are (right now wait till later) dummy
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:03 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Pushing an agenda so soon? Can't even sit comfortably in joke phase? ikr
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:06 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I think we should tread carefully. i bet it's two
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:08 |
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SalTheBard posted:I mean (and I'm just guessing) that there are 4 people who have solo wincons (Obama, Yoda, Thanos and Keanu). Everyone else would have multiple wincons based on where they fit in the ven diagram. I don't think that is something to be concerned about, what I don't like is the role fishing. big agree/same
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:10 |
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Dick Bastardly posted:big agree/same poo poo i probably just made three enemies by accident... ok just know; two of you... of the three hypothetical "enemies" are actually my frens but you are eachother's enemies probably....
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:12 |
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Mr. Steak posted:to be clear, my first thought upon seeing that there wouldn't be a universal "enemy" group was to wonder... who in the world could thread unite behind hunting (or pretending to hunt if youre one of them). the conclusion i reached is... the 5 players in the center of the diagram. because they are the most traitorous out of everyone so you're not one of those five... hmm... ok
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:14 |
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Dick Bastardly posted:so you're not one of those five... hmm... ok i mean i guess you could be still...
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:15 |
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Mr. Steak posted:and if my assumptions about how night will work are correct, then starting on day 2 they will also be the most well-informed out of everyone, of who is in which factions you're assuming the players will be forthcoming with information honestly which i think is a slight stretch
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:17 |
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Mr. Steak posted:importantly, after n1, the big man yobo will know *everybody's* role on the topic of said big man... my first inclination was said player is probably 3P (alone) food for thought
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:19 |
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my sentiment as well
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:21 |
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b-minus1 posted:Lumpen what have you done
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:22 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:IMMERSION RUINED Mr. Humalong posted:I demand a dayvig to compensate for this slap in the face fwiw i think these two players have interests that are aligned
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:28 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:19 |
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Dick Bastardly posted:fwiw i think these two players have interests that are aligned idk about aa but i, personally, would like to win
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 03:42 |