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Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 15 days!)

bows1 posted:

I liked that song in the trailer.

edit - also Im unfamiliar with the Jimmy Hoffa story and that trailer didn't really tell me anything

Hoffa was a union leader who was in with the mob and then vanished.

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Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

It just communicated that some mob stuff's happening in the 60's. Good enough for me.

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

Hoffa is on Netflix. Pretty decent Jack Nicholson/Danny DeVito movie from 1992

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


De aged Bobby D looks like poo poo. He basically looks like he's wearing a rubber mask.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Retrowave Joe posted:

Hoffa is on Netflix. Pretty decent Jack Nicholson/Danny DeVito movie from 1992



there has to be like a 50 percent chance that it's a goofy screwball comedy right? Is that the gag?

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Retrowave Joe posted:

Hoffa is on Netflix. Pretty decent Jack Nicholson/Danny DeVito movie from 1992

You can watch the Sylvester Stallone movie F.I.S.T. if you want to see a movie where he plays not-Hoffa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAndBxYrTBE

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

I'm going to be first in line for Cop Killer: The Movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Th84oGDno

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Hat Thoughts posted:

i feel like im gonna be thinkin about the de-aging 24/7 watchin that thing

You’re gonna watch it back to back for a week straight? Is this a toxx??

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


ruddiger posted:

I'm going to be first in line for Cop Killer: The Movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Th84oGDno

I’m the world’s biggest Bokeem Woodbine fan whose last name isn’t also Woodbine so I’ll be right behind you. I’m also a big fan of dead cops so 2/2

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

DeimosRising posted:

You’re gonna watch it back to back for a week straight? Is this a toxx??

In elementary school this girl invited me over to her house & when i was eating dinner with her parents I busted out my big joke of - Hey, you know that local store that says they're open 365 days a year? Well...what about Leap Years!?
and they just said, "I would assume they're still open" and it was like silent for what felt like a whole minute

BioThermo
Feb 18, 2014


Can't wait for this to majorly fail.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Two box office failures in row for Scorsese, phwoar

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

BioThermo posted:

Can't wait for this to majorly fail.

Assuming Netflix hasn't paid Scorsese all the money he wants already.

Netflix is probably looking at The Irishman as its second source of Oscar nominations this year (the other being their Ted Bundy movie with Zac Efron).

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

BioThermo posted:

Can't wait for this to majorly fail.

Why?
I'd like a good movie, please.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Hat Thoughts posted:

In elementary school this girl invited me over to her house & when i was eating dinner with her parents I busted out my big joke of - Hey, you know that local store that says they're open 365 days a year? Well...what about Leap Years!?
and they just said, "I would assume they're still open" and it was like silent for what felt like a whole minute

lmbo

BioThermo
Feb 18, 2014

Teenage Fansub posted:

Why?
I'd like a good movie, please.

So would I. It's just that I think The Departed was a great movie, and I think that Children of Men was the best movie of the modern era, and since they came out the same year, it was thoroughly ignored during the awards season by everyone eager to circlejerk around Scorsese. Karmic justice would have The Irishman failing to be the critical darling that Roma was.

Also gently caress glorifying organized crime.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
You want a movie to be bad because another movie you liked wasn’t well-liked enough by a bunch of random people 15 years ago? These are movies, not sports.

Also I’m not sure why you think Scorsese glamorizes this stuff. Did he glamorize being a loner/political assassin too? Or an EMT?

Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Aug 1, 2019

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Hat Thoughts posted:

In elementary school this girl invited me over to her house & when i was eating dinner with her parents I busted out my big joke of - Hey, you know that local store that says they're open 365 days a year? Well...what about Leap Years!?
and they just said, "I would assume they're still open" and it was like silent for what felt like a whole minute

Lmao.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

BioThermo posted:

Also gently caress glorifying organized crime.

I'm not sure Scorsese glorifies organized crime. The Godfather did that, for sure, with it's emphasis on "family" and loyalty. But that's never been Scorsese's bag. Goodfellas, Casino, and The Departed did kind of the opposite, showing organized crime to be a group of backstabbing bastards who are all out for their own good, and it ends pretty poorly for almost everyone. Take the sticky ends for Pesci in both Goodfellas and Casino. Or the ending for...basically everyone in The Departed.

The Godfather made people want to be part of organized crime. Scorsese seems to always be saying, "Yeah...you really don't, though."

Note, I never watched Boardwalk Empire which he produced, so maybe that was different.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

1917 trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcmZN0Mbl04

edit: This is the WW1 movie directed by Sam Mendes (Skyfall) that is reported to be all one long shot

Ehud fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Aug 1, 2019

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

Ehud posted:

1917 trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcmZN0Mbl04

edit: This is the WW1 movie directed by Sam Mendes (Skyfall) that is reported to be all one long shot
Maybe starting at a certain point? Just in the trailer there were 2 camera angles when the men were being given their mission (shot/reverse shot).

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

JazzFlight posted:

Maybe starting at a certain point? Just in the trailer there were 2 camera angles when the men were being given their mission (shot/reverse shot).

I noticed that too... however that could be just clever editing of two different moments in that scene. Although there's no camera movements there like everything else so who knows.

And I assuming it's not *really* one single shot, but lots of ones seamlessly stitched together with clever edit points?

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

It'll be "single shot" like how Birdman was "single shot": not really, but built to feel that way.

That shot/reverse shot is probably longer than shown here, with the camera panning from Firth to the main character before he salutes.

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts
So it's basically Saving Private Ryan but in WWI?

Almost Blue
Apr 18, 2018

BioThermo posted:

So would I. It's just that I think The Departed was a great movie, and I think that Children of Men was the best movie of the modern era, and since they came out the same year, it was thoroughly ignored during the awards season by everyone eager to circlejerk around Scorsese. Karmic justice would have The Irishman failing to be the critical darling that Roma was.

Didn't that just happen with Silence? Also, why would anybody care about awards or whatever?

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

There never seems to be any explanation of how these one-shot movies are supposed to be more enjoyable.

In the authentic one-shot movies you just keep searching for the near-misses, the would-have-been-reshot-if-it-wasn’t-so-much-trouble scenes. In the fake stitched-together ones you are always searching for the seams, to find where they taped it together.

It’s all really distracting, not to mention often plain worse.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Vegetable posted:

There never seems to be any explanation of how these one-shot movies are supposed to be more enjoyable.

In the authentic one-shot movies you just keep searching for the near-misses, the would-have-been-reshot-if-it-wasn’t-so-much-trouble scenes. In the fake stitched-together ones you are always searching for the seams, to find where they taped it together.

It’s all really distracting, not to mention often plain worse.

Really long one shot scenes (not sure about whole movies) can really ratchet up the tension when done well like in Children of Men.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
Yeah, I think that's just your personal quibble. Long action shots tend to get me into that edge-of-my-seat mindset easily.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I have no problem with one-shot scenes. But one-shot movies are almost never worth it. It’s pretty unlikely that your 2 hour motion picture isn’t somehow improved by a good editor seamlessly stitching a superior take into it.

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

Counterpoint to this discussion, Victoria is a perfect no bullshit one shot movie with no "misses" and the technique really serves the movie well.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Ehud posted:

1917 trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcmZN0Mbl04

edit: This is the WW1 movie directed by Sam Mendes (Skyfall) that is reported to be all one long shot

Haha, pre trailer trailers you aren't allowed to skip for five seconds are gettin' savvier

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Aug 1, 2019

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
And Russian Ark.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Anne Frank Funk posted:

Counterpoint to this discussion, Victoria is a perfect no bullshit one shot movie with no "misses" and the technique really serves the movie well.
I was going to mention this specifically, because Victoria is a perfectly bullshit one-shot movie with many scenes that would have been improved with another take.

Also, did you really at no point think “wow they didn’t cut here?” “whoosh that dude almost ruined the take” “wonder how they planned that so it didn’t gently caress up” “wow it’s one hour in and they’re still doing the one-shot, cool”

To me single-shot scenes often work well when you don’t notice they’re single-shot. They’re powerfully immersive and don’t call attention to themselves. A single-shot movie, by virtue of how long it is, has no way to do that.

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

Vegetable posted:

I was going to mention this specifically, because Victoria is a perfectly bullshit one-shot movie with many scenes that would have been improved with another take.
I was very immersed both times I saw it and I think it's thanks to the technique.

quote:

Also, did you really at no point think “wow they didn’t cut here?” “whoosh that dude almost ruined the take” “wonder how they planned that so it didn’t gently caress up” “wow it’s one hour in and they’re still doing the one-shot, cool”
See above, I was immersed to the point I didn't treat the people I was watching as actors in a movie. It was really something quite different (also to other one shot movies/scenes)

quote:

To me single-shot scenes often work well when you don’t notice they’re single-shot. They’re powerfully immersive and don’t call attention to themselves. A single-shot movie, by virtue of how long it is, has no way to do that.
I guess I have no problem with that (in the case of Victoria)

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

algebra testes posted:

And Russian Ark.

Russian Ark is the only film I know where the dedication to doing it all in one take actually serves the underlying themes, as the film is all about different time periods flowing together into a singular unit.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



algebra testes posted:

And Russian Ark.

Russian Ark is fantastic.






1917 looks like crap.

FoneBone
Oct 24, 2004
stupid, stupid rat creatures

Ehud posted:

1917 trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcmZN0Mbl04

edit: This is the WW1 movie directed by Sam Mendes (Skyfall) that is reported to be all one long shot
And Roger Deakins. Don’t forget Deakins

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
Lot's of Oscar-bait on this page :eyepop:

here's a Lupita Nyong'o zombie movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d1KP-OhBP4

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



FoneBone posted:

And Roger Deakins. Don’t forget Deakins

Deakins is wonderful; I wish the movie was more interesting but I guess you take work where you can. He's one of the best in the business and it's kind of a shame that he passed on Dune in order to do a videogamey Saving Private Ryan retread with absolute cheeseball Sam Mendes. But I guess they have history, too, so :shrug:

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teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?


I laughed. I'll see this.

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