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Leal posted:Gaben fondly looks at his latest knife, then laughs. what makes me sad is how dead valve is as a dev. most of the talent left for greener pastures and after giving a green light to such abortions/scams as hunt down the freeman, you can see how little they care about their IPs.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:what makes me sad is how dead valve is as a dev. most of the talent left for greener pastures and after giving a green light to such abortions/scams as hunt down the freeman, you can see how little they care about their IPs. IIRC Hunt Down The Freeman exploited a loophole in their engine licensing. The Source Engine license (which cost $100k) included what was basically an unlimited license to use Valve's IP in Source-based games. It was intended as a way for Source Engine devs to use Valve assets like textures and props in their games (since they don't have an equivalent to the Unity or Unreal asset stores and think of how successful Gary's Mod was) and they didn't expect anyone would just up and make a fan sequel to Half-Life without asking them first. They now have much stricter terms with reusing their IP for new licensees.
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On the one hand, they've also supported Black Mesa which is some quality stuff. But on the other hand, they've also supported a number of middling pseudo-sequels (at least one that's a follow-up to Opposing Force, a few standalone Portal mods of varying quality) that simply weren't the kind of total garbage fires that get noticed. In general, Valve has always had a really weird relationship with outside creators when you look at everything TF2 did, for instance. I've always had very mixed opinions on their "make content for our games, because we certainly won't, but don't worry we'll pay you" attitude.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What's being lost in this conversation, by the way, is how absolutely abysmal Steam is as a platform for indie devs to work with. It's very hard to stand out among the utter crap that's shoveled over there, and they take an obscene percentage of revenue. They have yet to improve even with this competition from Epic. There was a reddit post a while back that broke it all down, but Valve eat a lot of costs and offer so many support services for devs, that other game clients including Epic simply do not do. Devs may be taking it for granted because it’s been there for so long, but Steam is incredible in what it offers, let’s not pretend otherwise. Not to mention Epic is offering no competition, their client is still as lovely as day one and they’re just buying out the market in attempt to be the only storefront on the market. Do you really think if they reach that goal, they’ll keep the PC ecosystem as free and open as Valve let it be? No chance. The weird part in all of this though is why Valve keeps letting devs advertise for free on their platform , only to pull out last minute. You’d think they would update their terms of agreement so that dev’s couldn’t pull that on them.
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Lol poor Valve getting taken advantage of by those cruel indie devs
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Asuron posted:.  Could it be that Reddit is full of idiots and that in fact Valve benefits from letting all and sundry shovel their poo poo onto Steam? No, I'm sure it's the ungrateful indie devs who are the real masterminds of exploiting poor, defenseless Valve.
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Mr.Radar posted:IIRC Hunt Down The Freeman exploited a loophole in their engine licensing. The Source Engine license (which cost $100k) included what was basically an unlimited license to use Valve's IP in Source-based games. It was intended as a way for Source Engine devs to use Valve assets like textures and props in their games (since they don't have an equivalent to the Unity or Unreal asset stores and think of how successful Gary's Mod was) and they didn't expect anyone would just up and make a fan sequel to Half-Life without asking them first. They now have much stricter terms with reusing their IP for new licensees. yeah i am over reacting clearly but its still loving sad. i am glad they are actually looking into who uses it now.
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video games were a mistake. it's nothing but trash
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endless traaaaaaaash
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rudecyrus posted:video games were a mistake. it's nothing but trash nah. its just 99.9999999% trash.
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there has never been a good video game
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watho posted:there has never been a good video game Yoshi's Island tho
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watho posted:there has never been a good video game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=capTpivF8n0
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Crosspost from uspol. There’s finally someone in congress who has noticed the pipeline (and doesn’t support it):Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1157805661306195973
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No doubt this is because of hbomb’s influence.
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Team Fortress 2 was good until they added Demoknight
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Dapper_Swindler posted:what makes me sad is how dead valve is as a dev. most of the talent left for greener pastures and after giving a green light to such abortions/scams as hunt down the freeman, you can see how little they care about their IPs. Valve has been an institution in decline for years and it's really starting to show. Artifact getting developed and then basically abandoned in less than a month after release (lol) while Dota Underlords is basically getting overdeveloped to death at the moment (huge swingy gamechanging patches almost every 2 weeks) is just indicative of how internally the organization is just broken. There is no organizational vision anymore and the internal culture is just bad. I'd compare them to Google but at least Google still outputs a good thing every now and then. They're collecting rent on their e-store monopoly just fine but without it they would just topple.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:nah. its just 99.9999999% trash. Everybody knows that there 15 good games. Super Mario World Doom Myst Bloodborne Sid Meier's Civilization Resident Evil 4 Freddy Pharkas: Frontier Pharmacist Google Chrome's No-Internet Dinosaur Jumping Game The Star Wars Arcade Game Bert Higgins: The Man from H.E.L.L Undertale Crash Team Racing Fallout: New Vegas Monty Python's Complete Waste of Time & Sleeping Dogs
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Crosspost from uspol. There’s finally someone in congress who has noticed the pipeline (and doesn’t support it): thanks for the repost. but like she said its not just the channers and reddit fuckers and the out and out alt right types. its also poo poo like this, https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/1142414736572768256 the regular right dog whistles it too. its nothing new to anyone here. but jesus.
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Max Wilco posted:Everybody knows that there 15 good games. Deadly Premonition is actually just one game.
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Max Wilco posted:Everybody knows that there 15 good games. honestly. i like most games and it takes alot for me not to like one. last game i disliked was left alive and that was more of disappointment.
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Roth posted:Team Fortress 2 was good until they added Demoknight sounds like someone who got bodied by a shield charge one too many times tbh
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Absurd Alhazred posted:
.... what? This is just a discussion on services Valve provide which are actually pretty substantial. Don’t make it weird man
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MiddleOne posted:Deadly Premonition is actually just one game. 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:thanks for the repost. but like she said its not just the channers and reddit fuckers and the out and out alt right types. Yeah I’m thinking about that guy who posted the youtube about being deprogrammed by contrapoints videos, where he said it was the algorithm feeding him ben shapiro and praeger u nonstop that got him started.
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MiddleOne posted:Deadly Premonition is actually just one game.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzvXBFwcyek
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Max Wilco posted:Everybody knows that there 15 good games. WHERES TETRIS
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Asuron posted:.... what? Such as?
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Captain Invictus posted:sounds like someone who got bodied by a shield charge one too many times tbh Demoknights are pathetically easy to kill because the people who play them tend to be incredibly dumb
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-41YUSZ9VAg i know im directly contradicting my no effort troll post but deadly premonition is the loving best
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:WHERES TETRIS It got bumped off the list by 'Google Chrome No-Internet Dinosaur Jumping Game'
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Yeah I’m thinking about that guy who posted the youtube about being deprogrammed by contrapoints videos, where he said it was the algorithm feeding him ben shapiro and praeger u nonstop that got him started. well i think alot of it starts out with personal issues and than they full into the algorithm and or from chan communities. maybe it starts with irony than "irony" and than they legit believe it. the /pol/ types are honestly dumber than people act like they are.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well i think alot of it starts out with personal issues and than they full into the algorithm and or from chan communities. maybe it starts with irony than "irony" and than they legit believe it. the /pol/ types are honestly dumber than people act like they are. 100% agree
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:100% agree like i have friend who fell into that life and was in some of those really bad discords, he got scared after charlotseville and he started to open his eyes to how hosed up it all was and how lovely and backstabby all the nazis were. he has his life in order now away from that poo poo. it all started with a ton of problems at homes and spending time on various chans. just like I did, hell it was one reasons for our friendship. he and that stupid helped me get through a lovely high school and CC. i just grew out of it outside having a hosed up sense of humor.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:No doubt this is because of hbomb’s influence. That's future Peer of the Realm Harris Bomberguy.
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gently caress yeah. can't wait to here is opinion on Days gone. Edit: interesting. i liked his opinion, i skipped zero dawn part because i havent beaten it yet, but i am sure its a interesting opinion too. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Aug 4, 2019 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Such as? The bandwidth cost for hosting game files, patches, screenshots, promotional videos, &c. The organizational and bandwidth cost of setting up user forums for just about every game that has ever been available on the platform. Steam Workshop. VAC is also a not-insignificant feature available to devs for free.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well i think alot of it starts out with personal issues and than they full into the algorithm and or from chan communities. maybe it starts with irony than "irony" and than they legit believe it. the /pol/ types are honestly dumber than people act like they are. I remember going to youtube under a long-dormant account that I've never used before on YouTube. A couple recommended videos were blatantly alt-right talking point videos. Zero history and the algorithm had a few lined up for me to try. And really, it makes sense; if the algorithm sees that market as a rich source of views, related views, binge watching, comment wars and interactions, all of that is gold for advertising revenue, even if it raises a general of shitheads. An angry viewer who can be led to a whole bunch of other videos and comment wars is ideal in terms of "interaction".
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Silicon Valley millionaire with a bachelor’s in engineering: “Engagement is the perfect measure of merit, and objective enough for me to continue to believe I am an apolitical philosopher king!” [Distant gunfire]
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