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Yes (Goku) | 146 | 85.38% | |
No (also Goku) | 25 | 14.62% | |
Total: | 171 votes |
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Rhyno posted:I know it's been mentioned but if you dug Anthony Starr as Homelander you owe it to yourself to check out his turn on Banshee. boy does he look like Twitter Jack
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 00:32 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 21:25 |
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I’m like half way through this and I know that Homelander is basically just evil Superman but he is really a super interesting villain. Everything he does makes total sense in his sociopathic corporate brainwashed mind. Basically anything involving homelander is the star of the show so far imo. Although the whole thing is really loving good and I wasn’t expecting to like it at all.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 01:13 |
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I mean, in the same way that if the police were allowed to beat confessions out of people, we could also solve thousands of cases in a matter of months. Mind-reading would be 1 billion percent unconstitutional, and even if it weren't, it would be inadmissable hearsay in court. Incredibles addressed this decades ago with Mr Incredible and Frozone trying to rescue people out of a burning building. Super strength is a liability in a Collapsing building. Freeze powers are reliant on ambient humidity. Wearing a cape is just asking to get sucked into a jet engine.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:20 |
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Loved it up until the cliffhanger season end. I get why shows do it but it still loving sucks. Every season should have its own mostly complete arc. If a show is good then you don't need cheap cliffhangers to keep the audience interested. Anthony Starr and Karl Urban were perfectly cast. If anything I thought Elizabeth Shue was super unconvincing and wooden.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 04:59 |
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Midgetskydiver posted:If anything I thought Elizabeth Shue was super unconvincing and wooden. I really appreciated her work, like she was wearing a wooden mask with absolute screaming terror right behind it. show no fear and tiger won't eat you. also, she can get proper fuckin' weird.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 06:55 |
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Every B plot involving the Deep is great. I could watch a whole show of him being trying to help sea life and failing miserably.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 07:40 |
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jfood posted:I really appreciated her work, like she was wearing a wooden mask with absolute screaming terror right behind it. show no fear and tiger won't eat you. That's a pretty good assessment of show-Stilwell, I think. Of course it gets her killed because Homelander knows she's afraid. She's trying and failing to be book-Stilwell, who gets his job and survives it by being an emotionless corporate psychopath with no fear of life or death.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:33 |
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Bust Rodd posted:I don’t understand how come any super hero seems washed up. Can’t Mesmer just go to like any casino on Earth and mindread the goddam dealer? I was under the impression that Mesmer's thing was more that he could see what people are visualizing in their head. That's why he started sobbing just before Butcher bashed his head in.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:39 |
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A part of me wishes after the dvd gift offer to the daughter failed he told her to watch it on Amazon Prime and then mugged at the camera I would have laughed
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 10:16 |
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Midgetskydiver posted:Loved it up until the cliffhanger season end. I get why shows do it but it still loving sucks. Every season should have its own mostly complete arc. If a show is good then you don't need cheap cliffhangers to keep the audience interested. But we did have a complete arc though...? Starlight and Butcher specifically.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 10:44 |
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Yeah I absolutely wouldn't call that a cliffhanger and knowing the source material if this ended up a one-season show, that would have been the perfect fuckin' place to end it. Like what a gently caress-you, motherfucker ending.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 10:46 |
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Taintrunner posted:Yeah I absolutely wouldn't call that a cliffhanger and knowing the source material if this ended up a one-season show, that would have been the perfect fuckin' place to end it. Like what a gently caress-you, motherfucker ending. It was a cliffhanger, but it was a definite "gently caress you" to the fans - in a good way. The episode titles are drawn from story arcs up to the midpoint of the run, but the last episode is named for the last issue of the comic. I also wouldn't be surprised if Amazon ordered the second season up front because it's a two-and-done. I can't see the material stretching out much further.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 12:51 |
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I honestly don’t think of the ending as a gently caress You, but more of a “Ha Ha, You thought you were so smart but actually you are dumb, dance puppets dance” but I loved it. Like I said, it’s somehow even more hosed up than the story Butcher or Homelander were told.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 13:24 |
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Alan Smithee posted:A part of me wishes after the dvd gift offer to the daughter failed he told her to watch it on Amazon Prime and then mugged at the camera it was great they had mesmer be a washed up guy most famous for a show when he was a kid in which he solved crimes with his superpower.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 14:06 |
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Just finished this. Got some great schadenfreude from watching Deep get constantly belittled. The dolphin scene with the Spice Girls was so good.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 16:13 |
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Definitely thought the ending was good as well. They wrapped up all of the ongoing threads and introduced a big new one which is a good way to end a season imo. The type of cliffhanger that would have pissed me off would have been if they had left Starlight and Hughie on the outs at the end, or alluded to Billy Butchers ending without actually confirming anything. To me a lovely cliffhanger is basically every season finale of The Walking Dead, and this was not that. Everything I cared about that was going on got a pretty satisfying conclusion. One of them just happened to be a big gut punch. It was actually slightly enjoyable seeing Billy get owned because he's just as bad as all of the Supes even if he's more likeable.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 16:59 |
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The Deep arc was really good. In like 99% of shows a sexual abuser is some unrepentant rear end in a top hat who gets their comeuppance by getting their dick shot off or something while this took a much more nuanced approach of showing the sexual coercion being the product of Deeps weakness and lack of agency and his comeuppance was having to experience that fully. The only scene that didn't work for me was the gills fingering scene. It felt rushed and poorly set-up in that Deep was playing the victim because it suited the theme and it was something he had to go through rather than fitting how the character would act in that scenario but it's forgivable seeing as the show is not just about Deep and he got about as much screen time as he could. Antony Starr makes this show though. Homelander was incredible and I can't wait for series 2 just for more of him.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 17:02 |
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Flayer posted:The Deep arc was really good. In like 99% of shows a sexual abuser is some unrepentant rear end in a top hat who gets their comeuppance by getting their dick shot off or something while this took a much more nuanced approach of showing the sexual coercion being the product of Deeps weakness and lack of agency and his comeuppance was having to experience that fully. The only scene that didn't work for me was the gills fingering scene. It felt rushed and poorly set-up in that Deep was playing the victim because it suited the theme and it was something he had to go through rather than fitting how the character would act in that scenario but it's forgivable seeing as the show is not just about Deep and he got about as much screen time as he could. same to all of this
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 17:09 |
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Does it ever say where Butcher and the team get all the money/supplies they need? Early on Butcher mentions getting funding from the FBI if he got proof, but they never seemed to struggle in that regard
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 17:14 |
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I actually thought the whole gills fingering thing was conceptually kind of an interesting way to flip the whole thing around, but the character that was doing it was comically evil in a way that was unbelievable even for this show.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 17:17 |
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bobjr posted:Does it ever say where Butcher and the team get all the money/supplies they need? Early on Butcher mentions getting funding from the FBI if he got proof, but they never seemed to struggle in that regard I got the impression Frenchie was some sort of black market gun runner slash drug dealer, don't know about the rest
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 17:28 |
bobjr posted:Does it ever say where Butcher and the team get all the money/supplies they need? Early on Butcher mentions getting funding from the FBI if he got proof, but they never seemed to struggle in that regard In the show I presume it's mostly through oddjobs and crime, although Butcher, MM and Frenchie have worked for the CIA in the past, through Mallory; in the comics the Boys are a black ops squad with ties to the CIA so they get their funds (and the rest of the stuff) from them.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 17:35 |
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I mean, in the same way that if the police were allowed to beat confessions out of people, we could also solve thousands of cases in a matter of months. Mind-reading would be 1 billion percent unconstitutional, and even if it weren't, it would be inadmissable hearsay in court. I agree with all the other reasons, but the part about being inadmissable doesn't really matter. An investigator who could actually read minds effectively could just use that to track down all the real evidence.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 18:05 |
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Yeah law enforcement does that all the time in the real world, it's called Parallel Construction. You wouldn't treat the Dead Zone visions as directly admissible or put Mesmir on the stand when it goes to trial. Instead Detective Smith would get the word that he should just happen to be strolling through the park where he, through his own perceptive powers, sees a suspicious looking discarded knife, which he takes in for fingerprinting, etc.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 18:36 |
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It is a good way of showing how screwed up the world in the show is that the one genuinely useful power anybody has is treated as a parlor trick and the person using it mocked.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 20:36 |
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veni veni veni posted:Every B plot involving the Deep is great. I could watch a whole show of him being trying to help sea life and failing miserably. At least he got the $75 per diem?
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 23:01 |
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*sniffs pitcher full of vodka * "smells like a comeback!" Deep is going to go full blown Norma Desmond in season 2 at the rate he's going lol. Also, the scene with Homelander gleefully lasering terrorists while "Rock the Casbah" was so good. Those glowing red eyes in the dark are incredibly menacing.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 03:14 |
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Critique of the world building:
quote:Because almost all superpowers, as depicted in the show, are totally useless at everything but violence. explicitly violent: 1 superman 1 glowy eyes, hand blasts, invulnerabilty 1 good at fighting, mute 1 eye lasers 1 healing, good at fighting useful for violence, but not explicitly for: 1 strength, invulnerability 2 fast guys 1 invisible, partial invulnerability 1 stretchy arms (limbs?) and not useful for violence at all: 1 fish guy 1 mind reading Given that we are seeing a biased selection, seems like it's not that much tilted towards violence. (then again they haven't done many scenes of ppl with powers, but are not supes, so who knows)
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 04:48 |
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Any intelligence agency worth a fart would have moved heaven and earth to recruit translucent or dopelganger.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 04:53 |
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I'm suprised Vought had no supe who can heal cancer for the low, low price of 5 million dollars.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 06:36 |
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Oof thanks for reminding me of the scene where A-Train meets the Make-A-Wish kid
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 08:03 |
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Panfilo posted:Also, the scene with Homelander gleefully lasering terrorists while "Rock the Casbah" was so good. Those glowing red eyes in the dark are incredibly menacing. Not Rock the Casbah - it was Rachid Taha's cover, Rock el Casbah. Which is the definitive version of the song anyway, and more people need to listen to it.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 08:13 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Oof thanks for reminding me of the scene where A-Train meets the Make-A-Wish kid Cancer kid was going to ask Translucent if he could make his cancer disappear.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 09:18 |
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What kind of a loser thinks "the invisible guy that's naked all the time, yeah that's my guy"
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 09:22 |
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If you’re a twerpy teen who is self conscious about their bald head and pale cancerous body then yeah turning invisible sounds good.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 09:28 |
FilthyImp posted:What kind of a loser thinks "the invisible guy that's naked all the time, yeah that's my guy" In the movies it's probably played out like some kind of 300-macho-naked-greek thing - he also wear a suit in the movie poster we see on the bus at the beginning.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 09:59 |
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That Italian Guy posted:In the movies it's probably played out like some kind of 300-macho-naked-greek thing - he also wear a suit in the movie poster we see on the bus at the beginning. In the movies they probably use special effects to turn his clothes invisible. They're hardly accurate representation to begin with.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 10:35 |
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Speaking of which, Homelander's suit was very badly fitting, especially around the arms. Also speaking of arms, do veins normally stay popped like on The Deep? Mine usually go down not long after a workout, perhaps the producers forced Chase to do a full arm set before every scene. The monsters
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 13:00 |
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Effects
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 13:09 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 21:25 |
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Just started watching this show and man it's fuckin awesome. I just wanna powerwatch the whole thing but gotta watch it with the girlfriend cos she really likes it too. Booooooooo
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 14:24 |