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He said something like she came 3 times, which seems a tall order for the guy who barely lasted three thrusts in the one event we saw screen. Its admittedly a crack theory but there is some disconnect in his sexuality on screen and what we are told he's done to Becca. His relationship with Queen Maeve is obviously a little suspect too.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:16
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Rubellavator posted:I haven't read the comics but it was my understanding that homelander really thinks that he's the one who is doing all these bad things when it's really black noir. Also, black noir is his clone so the baby looking like him is not surprising. That's the case in the comics, but I'm betting they're gonna do something different in the show or it seems like it so far, at least.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:28
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So far Black Noir hasn't done anything particularly heinous. Even Homelander praised him.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:54
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Panfilo posted:So far Black Noir hasn't done anything particularly heinous. Even Homelander praised him. If homelander praises him, we REALLY ought to be concerned about what he's been up to behind the scenes (aside from making a VCU film with Seth Rogen)
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Aug 7, 2019 22:00
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Rubellavator posted:He said something like she came 3 times, which seems a tall order for the guy who barely lasted three thrusts in the one event we saw screen. Its admittedly a crack theory but there is some disconnect in his sexuality on screen and what we are told he's done to Becca. If I'm not mistaken we don't authoritatively know what happened with Becca was non-consensual. We only have some footage from afterwards, outside the room and the word of a CIA operative who wanted to recruit him to go on. Butcher is far from a reliable narrator at the best of times, and may have been actively deceived. And in either event, Homelander wouldn't be the first guy to exaggerate his performance; there's probably Lascaux cave paintings where Ugg the Caveman overstated his prowess.
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Aug 7, 2019 22:32
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Homie's experience with Stillwell seemed less virginal and more "oh god I'm finally loving this mother figure I've always wanted to gently caress," to me edit for tags LITERALLY A BIRD fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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Aug 7, 2019 23:47
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I loved it when the fish guy Louis CK'd the Iowa gal
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Aug 8, 2019 01:31
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BIG HEADLINE posted:This show is so well done, it makes me hate the new season of Preacher even more. Only two episodes in and it's a disjointed mess, and "God" doing an in-show ad for Diet Dr. Pepper is a little much. Yeah I have no idea what Cassidy is doing this season. Like leave at night dude, I’d hope you get how being a vampire works by now.
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Aug 8, 2019 01:47
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BIG HEADLINE posted:This show is so well done, it makes me hate the new season of Preacher even more. Only two episodes in and it's a disjointed mess, and "God" doing an in-show ad for Diet Dr. Pepper is a little much. Yeah I have no idea what Cassidy is doing this season. Like leave at night dude, I’d hope you get how being a vampire works by now.
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Aug 8, 2019 02:03
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Yea Homelander has one seriously hosed up oedipal complex in the show.
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Aug 8, 2019 02:45
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Phenotype posted:Scenes like the super who accidentally crushes the guy's head under her rear end That guy was such a nice dweeb. I felt bad for him. I knew he was toast the second he accepted the invite. At least it was an accident and he died doing what he loved until the head explode.
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Aug 8, 2019 02:47
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Compound V is a hell of a drug.
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Aug 8, 2019 03:08
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Homie's experience with Stillwell seemed less virginal and more "oh god I'm finally loving this mother figure I've always wanted to gently caress," to me That was my take too
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Aug 8, 2019 04:05
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McSpanky posted:I think the unspoken caveat here is that the government/military would have gotten them before they became power-drunk unstable assholes and such.
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Aug 8, 2019 14:16
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Rubellavator posted:I liked season 1, I had a couple of theories while I was watching that turned into deadends and some new ones after I finished and read about the differences with the comics. the first is to show a-train didn't actually care. a "for me it was tuesday" situation. the second is how i read the scene and why they may still be keeping the comic storyline partly.
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Aug 8, 2019 14:40
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Groovelord Neato posted:the second is how i read the scene and why they may still be keeping the comic storyline partly. That wouldn't surprise me either. Casting an actor as Black Noir serves a double purpose. First, it throws people off the scent of the twist. In the comics we get it when BN shoots down the airliner at Herogasm; because Homelander is at an orgy at the time you don't question why he's flying around naked. Second, it has the extra benefit of not having to shoot scenes twice to duplicate him.
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Aug 8, 2019 14:47
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Halloween Jack posted:I can't think of a lot of things that would gently caress someone up worse than being raised in a lab by a military contractor. But being raised in a lab by the CIA is one of those things. Starlight shows it's not impossible to raise someone with superpowers and have them turn out okay. Just let them live as normal a life as posssible, and then recruit them when they become adults.
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Aug 8, 2019 14:59
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Crimpolioni posted:Starlight shows it's not impossible to raise someone with superpowers and have them turn out okay. Just let them live as normal a life as posssible, and then recruit them when they become adults. She managed to be alright growing up as the equivalent of a child pageant starlet with an helicopter mom, so even better than that.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:08
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Honestly Starlight should be a super hosed up Republican Christian fascist with all the ungodly pressure and poo poo she was subjected to.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:20
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I really appreciate that while Starlight starts out as a victim she arcs into a totally believable badass. I appreciate the lip service they paid to her fighting technique (“and the Tae Kwan Do!”) because it always bums me out when super strong people don’t also know how to fight. This was first pointed out to me 20 years ago in the issue of Preacher where Jesse beats Cassidy’s rear end in a fist fight while yelling that at him.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:21
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Just finished this last night, what a fuckin ride. Some of the beats are easy to see coming if you've ever read Garth Ennis but there are some great twists, I loved the Mesmer stairwell fakeout.Crimpolioni posted:Starlight shows it's not impossible to raise someone with superpowers and have them turn out okay. Just let them live as normal a life as posssible, and then recruit them when they become adults. My takeaway was that it was the Vought celebrity circus that hosed them up more than the superpowers. It's implied that Maeve was just like Starlight before she got burned out on everything, and I think the Deep's scenes show that he cares enough that he could have been a good guy.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:22
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So, regarding the big confrontation in the final episode: Homelander totally let Stillwell's baby die, didn't he? I ended up liking this way more than I expected. All the actors were very good, Homelander was perfectly done, the gore and weirdness was suitable for the tone of the show without being egregious, and it was funny without being cheesy. Looking forward to season 2.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:26
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That kid was done the moment Stillwell asked Homelander to get him away and not to get *Homelander and the kid* to safety.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:36
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He was never in danger though. Another reason why I think they're going in a different direction to Black Noir from the comics. We see him get his rear end fairly put out of balance by the Female (idk her show name) so I don't think it's likely he's Homelander's clone, who appears to be much more powerful than the comic version.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:16
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Bedshaped posted:He was never in danger though.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:28
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Yeah I'm really curious what the twist is going to be, because Homelander seems dangerously crazy and completely out of the league of every super powered person we've been introduced to so far. In the books Maeve is supposed to be about on his level at least strength wise. I guess there's some possibility that a new one or one of the terrorists will be able to go toe to toe with him but at the moment there's not much stopping him from just grinding every person who gets in his way to dust besides the sheer boredom of it.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:01
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Mat Cauthon posted:Yeah I'm really curious what the twist is going to be, because Homelander seems dangerously crazy and completely out of the league of every super powered person we've been introduced to so far. In the books Maeve is supposed to be about on his level at least strength wise. I guess there's some possibility that a new one or one of the terrorists will be able to go toe to toe with him but at the moment there's not much stopping him from just grinding every person who gets in his way to dust besides the sheer boredom of it. She is? Sure didn't seem like it.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:13
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In the books it's *implied* that Maeve is "almost his equal" or somesuch. People say the same about Wonder Woman, since she's technically a mythological being conjured/sustained by divine mojo/magic, she should theoretically be able to kick Superman's rear end, but never has, and every so often DC loves to show that Superman is so unimaginably powerful that any comparison is meaningless.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:20
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Mat Cauthon posted:In the books Maeve is supposed to be about on his level at least strength wise. In the comics the only one that's equal/stronger than Homelander is Black Noir. Every hero is afraid of pissing HL because he will manhandle/laser eye them. Near the end of the comic run Maeve pushes Starlight off the Seven's base, attacks HL with her sword which breaks on impact, and then HL punches her head clean off her shoulders. Homelander throws the head past Starlight before he goes to face Stilwell. Black Noir punches Homelander's jaw off before ripping him apart
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Aug 8, 2019 18:30
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BIG HEADLINE posted:In the books it's *implied* that Maeve is "almost his equal" or somesuch. Just in-universe propaganda, given how things go down.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:57
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Diverging from the comics in regards to Black Noir opens them up to do a lot more other things for Season 2. Among the possibilities: -Black Noir is still the 'failsafe' against Homelander, but isn't necessarily a clone, maybe his real superpower is just brain rays that kill Homelander dead or something. -Doppleganger being more relevant in events that didn't necessarily reveal him (though this would kind of be a cop-out to have flashbacks that were 'suprise it wasn't [person] all along!'. -Starlight ending up more powerful than she was in the comics, as we see her survive .50cal rounds and who knows how strong her light attacks could be with enough juice to draw from.
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Aug 8, 2019 19:24
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Panfilo posted:Diverging from the comics in regards to Black Noir opens them up to do a lot more other things for Season 2. Among the possibilities: I bet it going to be something like a piece of Homelander-kryptonite Vough developed just in case.
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Aug 8, 2019 19:35
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BIG HEADLINE posted:In the books it's *implied* that Maeve is "almost his equal" or somesuch. After Homelander, she's definitely the toughest supe we've seen on the show. Stopped that armored car and didn't even flinch. Translucent would be next, but  . Then I guess The Deep since he can swim down to 2 miles and not get crushed by the pressure and Starlight(taking .50 cal shots, getting punched by A-Train and not ending up like Robin). So really that just leaves A-Train(compound V force I don't gotta explain poo poo?) and Black Noir(Kamiko cut him once or twice with her nails in their fight) as the least durable members of The Seven. Panfilo posted:Diverging from the comics in regards to Black Noir opens them up to do a lot more other things for Season 2. Among the possibilities: I really want to see this now.
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Aug 8, 2019 19:37
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Interesting to note about compound V is that it is rather harmful to adults in the long run. It eventually gives A Train a heart attack I assume. Homelander also mentioned it took a bunch of tries to get some terrorist Superheroes. I think the reason Homelander is the most powerful among the Supes is because it was given to him as an embryo, so I bet the earlier you get it the greater and more stable the super powers are.
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Aug 8, 2019 21:42
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Panfilo posted:Interesting to note about compound V is that it is rather harmful to adults in the long run. It eventually gives A Train a heart attack I assume. Homelander also mentioned it took a bunch of tries to get some terrorist Superheroes. I think the reason Homelander is the most powerful among the Supes is because it was given to him as an embryo, so I bet the rape you get it the greater and more stable the super powers are. You might want to reword that last sentence. You seem to have changed your flow partway through it. I don't disagree with anything you said, though.
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Aug 9, 2019 00:35
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I'm ten issues into The Boys and it's really disappointing so far. There are some good bits but it's so Garth Ennis juvenile that it just undercuts everything it tries to do. Gay this, gay that, the villain's entire motivation was that he hates gays, the superhero was caught being gay and now he's very sorry and has to leave the team (really? even in the nineties or aughts I wouldn't have thought Wolverine would have gotten kicked out of the X-men for banging some dude), the other superhero haha omg you guys he just can't stop loving things haha lol we're so funny. Homelander makes much less sense in the comics, he's the one who forces Starlight to blow him but he's talking about truth, justice, and the American way right up until he drops his pants, so it's like why is he putting on this act in private? It's because Garth Ennis is kind of a hack and wanted the abrupt transition to "Now suck my dick." The TV show is much, much better than what I've seen so far. Ennis is one of those artists like Justin Roiland where he really, really needs a co-writer or editor that's able to say no to him. Left to his own devices he just ends up playing around in the poo poo he writes, and unlike Roiland he's not even that inventive, it's just sex and gore and shock value.
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Aug 9, 2019 00:48
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Jedit posted:You might want to reword that last sentence. You seem to have changed your flow partway through it. I don't disagree with anything you said, though. Weird typo thanks
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Aug 9, 2019 01:35
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Homelander is genetically Stormfront's son too, in addition to getting pumped of V while in the womb. Kinda wanna see how they're going to handle this bit when FemStormfront is introduced in the series.
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Aug 9, 2019 01:43
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Then I guess The Deep since he can swim down to 2 miles and not get crushed by the pressure and Starlight(taking .50 cal shots, getting punched by A-Train and not ending up like Robin). Is it a .50 cal that she gets hit with? It seems like rubber bullets or some other kind of non-lethal round.
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Aug 9, 2019 01:45
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According to IMFDB it's a .50BMG rifle, the aptly acronymed Serbu BFG-50A. That would be an extremely unusual caliber to find a less-than-lethal munition for, and even if the bullet were made of rubber, it would be at best severely injuring for a normal human at the kind of range Butcher was shooting Starlight Worth noting it's the same weapon used in the failed attempt to kill a caged Translucent.
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