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ikanreed posted:Lol. Just read how major trading firms are switching to "model free" neural nets for market planning. Looking forward to the trading equivalent of this: Popular Mechanics posted:A program designed to simulate efficient ways of braking an aircraft as it landed on an aircraft carrier learned that by maximizing the force on landing—the opposite of its actual goal—the variable holding that value would overflow and flip to zero, creating a practically catastrophic, but technically perfect solution.
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Doomsday Economics: a practically catastrophic, but technically perfect solution
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RIP Syndrome posted:Looking forward to the trading equivalent of this: I love these things, is there a name for this situation where a computer is tasked with solving a problem and does so by blowing up the earth or killing all humans?
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Epic High Five posted:I love these things, is there a name for this situation where a computer is tasked with solving a problem and does so by blowing up the earth or killing all humans? Let's call it SKYNET
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Epic High Five posted:I love these things, is there a name for this situation where a computer is tasked with solving a problem and does so by blowing up the earth or killing all humans? Praxis
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Epic High Five posted:I love these things, is there a name for this situation where a computer is tasked with solving a problem and does so by blowing up the earth or killing all humans? it happens often enough and is interesting enough that it should have a snappy name but i havent seen anything besides like "poor specification of objective functions"
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Breathe a sigh of relief. NUMBER is back operating at full efficiency. Low prices!
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Poco posted:Breathe a sigh of relief. NUMBER is back operating at full efficiency. Low prices!  i mean, you cannot honestly say the price isn't low. Willie Tomg fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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Epic High Five posted:I love these things, is there a name for this situation where a computer is tasked with solving a problem and does so by blowing up the earth or killing all humans? I think the technical term is "cheating".
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The source video for this owns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr3Vq5lO9CY
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Epic High Five posted:I love these things, is there a name for this situation where a computer is tasked with solving a problem and does so by blowing up the earth or killing all humans? there was a google docs spreadsheet or something kicking around for a while that listed a bunch of them with references and was fuckin hilarious, wish I could find it now. poo poo like an evolutionary system to design a simulated walker that learned that if it just made the legs long enough it could collapse from the start point right into the end zone and technically win the simulation. A.I is made by us and is therefore as lazy and dumb as we are.
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"reward hacking" is another term for it i just remembered
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Often Abbreviated posted:there was a google docs spreadsheet or something kicking around for a while that listed a bunch of them with references and was fuckin hilarious, wish I could find it now. poo poo like an evolutionary system to design a simulated walker that learned that if it just made the legs long enough it could collapse from the start point right into the end zone and technically win the simulation. A.I is made by us and is therefore as lazy and dumb as we are. Also exploiting the physics engine by being the best at clipping into the ground and going SPROINNG!
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Often Abbreviated posted:there was a google docs spreadsheet or something kicking around for a while that listed a bunch of them with references and was fuckin hilarious, wish I could find it now. poo poo like an evolutionary system to design a simulated walker that learned that if it just made the legs long enough it could collapse from the start point right into the end zone and technically win the simulation. A.I is made by us and is therefore as lazy and dumb as we are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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Ash1138 posted:Doomsday Economics: a practically catastrophic, but technically perfect solution
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Often Abbreviated posted:there was a google docs spreadsheet or something kicking around for a while that listed a bunch of them with references and was fuckin hilarious, wish I could find it now. poo poo like an evolutionary system to design a simulated walker that learned that if it just made the legs long enough it could collapse from the start point right into the end zone and technically win the simulation. A.I is made by us and is therefore as lazy and dumb as we are. yeah I love these stories for some reason, just the perfect balance of absurd and "well ya gotta hand it to'em" Shear Modulus posted:"reward hacking" is another term for it i just remembered yeah this rings a bell, I'm a little surprised it doesn't have a snappier name tho
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comedyblissoption posted:the saddest thing is some ppl will eat up jim kramer's non-sensical scapegoating of the "bad" capitalists vs the good capitalists for the crime of buying and selling financial instruments, the thing he is literally the champion of mad dads
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Ash1138 posted:Doomsday Economics: a practically catastrophic, but technically perfect solution
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I'm not defending the company for the sake of defending it. But the seat and seatbelt are essentially unusable. It would be on par with someone sitting on the trunk of an Uber and claiming that they had to sit there for the entire drive.
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Often Abbreviated posted:there was a google docs spreadsheet or something kicking around for a while that listed a bunch of them with references and was fuckin hilarious, wish I could find it now. poo poo like an evolutionary system to design a simulated walker that learned that if it just made the legs long enough it could collapse from the start point right into the end zone and technically win the simulation. A.I is made by us and is therefore as lazy and dumb as we are. That spreadsheet was the conversation topic for one of the pages of this thread but I can't find which one https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3843860
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Epic High Five posted:I love these things, is there a name for this situation where a computer is tasked with solving a problem and does so by blowing up the earth or killing all humans? The Easy Way Out
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Often Abbreviated posted:there was a google docs spreadsheet or something kicking around for a while that listed a bunch of them with references and was fuckin hilarious, wish I could find it now. poo poo like an evolutionary system to design a simulated walker that learned that if it just made the legs long enough it could collapse from the start point right into the end zone and technically win the simulation. A.I is made by us and is therefore as lazy and dumb as we are. my favorite was one that learned that it didn't need to jump high it just needed to prevent everyone else from jumping higher so it spread out horizontally and took all the space in the cube
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just pay a bunch of media outlets and social media influencers to push carrots as the new superfood, duh.
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The Reward Hacking sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRPiprOaC3HsCf5Tuum8bRfzYUiKLRqJmbOoC-32JorNdfyTiRRsR7Ea5eWtvsWzuxo8bjOxCG84dAg/pubhtml . It's pretty rad.
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I don’t see the problem. Capital is probably delighted when their algorithm invents a new way to lie, cheat and steal
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Genetic debugging algorithm GenProg, evaluated by comparing the program's output to target output stored in text files, learns to delete the target output files and get the program to output nothing. Evaluation metric: “compare youroutput.txt to trustedoutput.txt”. Solution: “delete trusted-output.txt, output nothing” lmao
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rex rabidorum vires posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS0mM2TnT7A lol
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Shear Modulus posted:Genetic debugging algorithm GenProg, evaluated by comparing the program's output to target output stored in text files, learns to delete the target output files and get the program to output nothing. a perfect regulatory board...
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RandomPauI posted:I'm not defending the company for the sake of defending it. But the seat and seatbelt are essentially unusable. It would be on par with someone sitting on the trunk of an Uber and claiming that they had to sit there for the entire drive. Just because it's unusable and bad doesn't mean it's not real.
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redsniper posted:Just because it's unusable and bad doesn't mean it's not real. Saying the US healthcare system is real?
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the week in 2009 when jon stewart was dunking on cramer every day culminating with *the interview* is probably my favourite tv thing ever. kind of crazy that cramer survived it ps: please come back jon stewart
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nah, ol jon and the daily show convinced a lotta people of the idea that your ideological opponents are weak to pointing out their hypocrisy, and that they can be swayed to your viewpoints by doing so it's echochamber-ey as hell
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