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Adlai Stevenson
Mar 4, 2010

Making me ashamed to feel the way that I do

Darko posted:

I also learned from James that 2 is somehow the lowest grossing?

For me, its:

2=5>1=3>>>>>>>>>>>4.

I was surprised at how much I enjoyed 5, although I got the prequel twist too early because I started noticing the lack of modern things around halfway through.

That's pretty much my ordering too except maybe flip 3 and 1. I complained about 3 a lot when I first watched it but I still like it.

Also I guess people thought 2 was just a cash in, maybe?

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

the behind the scenes material on the Final Destination 2 DVD is seriously impressive.

Is it stuff on the opening crash sequence? I've only seen it on TV/streaming.

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Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

The only bad thing about FD5 is that it almost never shows up in streaming rotation on Netflix or Hulu, even though all the other installments revolve like clockwork.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Yeah, I'd seen a lot of Cushing highlights previously, but I really started diving into the deeper cuts a few months ago and I've yet to see one I didn't love.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



lmao @ the posers itt actually watching the Final Destination movies instead of just looking up a youtube compilation of the kill scenes

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

WeaponX posted:

This is a lovely way to think about movies

We're talking about Plan 9, not loving Eraserhead. It should be plain as day to anyone viewing it what does and doesn't(does) work.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Kvlt! posted:

lmao @ the posers itt actually watching the Final Destination movies instead of just looking up a youtube compilation of the kill scenes

2-5 are as much fun building up to the death scenes as it is with the Goldberg scenes themselves. In the good ones, deaths are foreshadowed by something else having to do with the characters themselves, and it's kind of fun finding those things.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Tart Kitty posted:

The only bad thing about FD5 is that it almost never shows up in streaming rotation on Netflix or Hulu, even though all the other installments revolve like clockwork.

I've seen 4 and 5 the least, 4 because it's dumb, and 5 for the reason you say. 3 probably the most because it just seems to pop up the most.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Adlai Stevenson posted:

Is it stuff on the opening crash sequence? I've only seen it on TV/streaming.

It’s got behind the scenes stuff for every death scene. It’s wild.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

It’s got behind the scenes stuff for every death scene. It’s wild.

Yeah, this Kill Count seemingly pulled most of the background information from that. I had never seen it.

Irony.or.Death
Apr 1, 2009


Kvlt! posted:

If you guys want I will post an essay every week giving my in depth thoughts on each film.

I've been away from the thread for way too long and this would be the best possible thing to return to, please do it

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Good news! I found the FD2 featurette on YouTube

https://youtu.be/cNbWmas3p90

The first ten minutes or so are prologues stuff about death scenes in horror in general, then it gets into the FD2 stuff

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Basebf555 posted:

Same but From Beyond

Supercontext just released an episode on From Beyond today.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

feedmyleg posted:

Yeah, I'd seen a lot of Cushing highlights previously, but I really started diving into the deeper cuts a few months ago and I've yet to see one I didn't love.

Then you haven't seen Biggles yet.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Basebf555 posted:

Horror fans know when you're using a jump scare properly, which is to say that it should be just one tool in the toolbox that you use when the situation calls for it. People know the difference between when it's used that way and when it's used as a crutch to compensate for a lack ideas or atmosphere.

:hmmyes:

The rule of thumb for jump scares is to use them early to make the audience expect them during the rest of the film, making the whole experience tense.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Lurdiak posted:

:hmmyes:

The rule of thumb for jump scares is to use them early to make the audience expect them during the rest of the film, making the whole experience tense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp_8h-AbQ98

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Basebf555 posted:

Literally see every film that Peter Cushing ever appeared in. Every single one of them.

WeaponX
Jul 28, 2008



Pomp posted:

We're talking about Plan 9, not loving Eraserhead. It should be plain as day to anyone viewing it what does and doesn't(does) work.

I’m not trying to start poo poo but honestly if you think that Eraserhead is irrefutably worthy of discussion but Plan 9 is not that is just a pessimistic and lame way to look at a genre that is limitless. Just because something is made by David Lynch doesn’t mean it’s more analytical than something made by Ed Wood (David Lynch is my favorite director ever) Also confusing cause Eraserhead is pretty straight forward

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


When jumpscares are good they're great, but when they're bad they're boring which is the worst thing a horror movie can be.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


WeaponX posted:

I’m not trying to start poo poo but honestly if you think that Eraserhead is irrefutably worthy of discussion but Plan 9 is not that is just a pessimistic and lame way to look at a genre that is limitless. Just because something is made by David Lynch doesn’t mean it’s more analytical than something made by Ed Wood (David Lynch is my favorite director ever) Also confusing cause Eraserhead is pretty straight forward

The real problem with the line of thought you’re arguing with is that it’s tautological - it posits that some art is not worth discussing because its nature is self evident, when really the only way to determine that there’s “more” to say about Eraserhead than Plan 9 is to give them both the same level of respect and consideration

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

I have to watch at least one of these tonight but neither looks very good. Which would you pick?

Satanic Panic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l89VaN-7EsA

Tone Deaf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF2dEsLO-sQ

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



WeaponX posted:

I’m not trying to start poo poo but honestly if you think that Eraserhead is irrefutably worthy of discussion but Plan 9 is not that is just a pessimistic and lame way to look at a genre that is limitless. Just because something is made by David Lynch doesn’t mean it’s more analytical than something made by Ed Wood (David Lynch is my favorite director ever) Also confusing cause Eraserhead is pretty straight forward

Ed Wood made movies that are totally worth discussing. Plan 9 is not one of them.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Jedit posted:

Horror is the bastard stepchild of the movie industry because it plays to primal emotions which are easily evoked.

Yeah, a lot of folks have this association of horror with porn because theoretically neither has to be "good" in order to be effective.

It's not fair to horror but I'd grant that it's understandable to a certain point. I think a good example (for me, anyway) is this sequence from The Fourth Kind which I found scary and disturbing... but the tricks it was using were so obvious I didn't feel completely satisfied and even a little cheated. Distorted, booming voices and screams on top of fuzzy VHS footage and static is probably always going to just be inherently creepy to me and at this point I expect professional feature filmmakers to bring a little more to the table to differentiate it from my next-door neighbor's amateur haunted garage each halloween, ya know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYAbrh7J0ik

Adlai Stevenson
Mar 4, 2010

Making me ashamed to feel the way that I do

flashy_mcflash posted:

I have to watch at least one of these tonight but neither looks very good. Which would you pick?

Satanic Panic

Tone Deaf

Satanic Panic looks like it's trying too hard to be cutesy which is a shame because I'm usually down for class-based horror

Tone Deaf looks like it's angling for a weirder take on a basic premise and I dunno if it'll land. But I'd rather watch Robert Patrick wig out with a tomahawk than find out if the pizza girl movie actually has bite.

I vote Tone Deaf

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

Vince MechMahon posted:

Ed Wood made movies that are totally worth discussing. Plan 9 is not one of them.

Sure it is, as people have been doing just that.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


flashy_mcflash posted:

I have to watch at least one of these tonight but neither looks very good. Which would you pick?

Satanic Panic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l89VaN-7EsA

Tone Deaf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF2dEsLO-sQ

I vote Satanic Panic because the honkers are larger in the thumbnail.

Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin
I haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street 2 and Child's Play 2. Which one should I watch right now?

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Popelmon posted:

I haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street 2 and Child's Play 2. Which one should I watch right now?

Both are good, but Child's Play 2 will always have a special place in my heart.

Vince MechMahon posted:

Ed Wood made movies that are totally worth discussing. Plan 9 is not one of them.

I think it's interesting that the style of the movie is so strongly and unironically made in the mold of something from 1930's or 40's for a movie released just a year before the 60's started.

Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Aug 9, 2019

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007


Get Ready for Price Time , Bitch



LMAO at the posers in this thread for not writing and story boarding their own Fan Made Final Destination sequel.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Popelmon posted:

I haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street 2 and Child's Play 2. Which one should I watch right now?

Oh, tough choice.

I would vote for Nightmare on Elm Street 2, but you should watch both eventually.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Popelmon posted:

I haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street 2 and Child's Play 2. Which one should I watch right now?

Child's Play 2 is actually quite good, Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is just an interesting failure with some neat bits.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



sponges posted:

Sure it is, as people have been doing just that.

Just because people are doing something doesn't mean there's value in doing it.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Adlai Stevenson posted:

Satanic Panic looks like it's trying too hard to be cutesy which is a shame because I'm usually down for class-based horror

Tone Deaf looks like it's angling for a weirder take on a basic premise and I dunno if it'll land. But I'd rather watch Robert Patrick wig out with a tomahawk than find out if the pizza girl movie actually has bite.

I vote Tone Deaf

Tone Deaf genuinely looks better but I don't think I've enjoyed a Bates since Excision. I think it's more of what I'm in the mood for anyway. Satanic Panic seems to be something like Riverdale. Thanks!

Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin

Tart Kitty posted:

Both are good, but Child's Play 2 will always have a special place in my heart.


I think it's interesting that the style of the movie is so strongly and unironically made in the mold of something from 1930's or 40's for a movie released just a year before the 60's started.

I went with Child's Play. Really digging it so far. There is a ton of really neat camera angles and close ups in this movie.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

the behind the scenes material on the Final Destination 2 DVD is seriously impressive.

I think I've seen that thing like 25 times. Certainly more than the actual movie.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Popelmon posted:

I went with Child's Play. Really digging it so far. There is a ton of really neat camera angles and close ups in this movie.

I've brought it up about a hundred times here, but I legitimately think that the last act is one of the coolest and most fun setpieces I've ever seen in a horror movie.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
Child's Play 2 is very comic booky, like an extended Creepshow segment. It good.

Bruteman
Apr 15, 2003

Can I ask ya somethin', Padre? When I was kickin' your ass back there... you get a little wood?

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Yeah, a lot of folks have this association of horror with porn because theoretically neither has to be "good" in order to be effective.

It's not fair to horror but I'd grant that it's understandable to a certain point. I think a good example (for me, anyway) is this sequence from The Fourth Kind which I found scary and disturbing... but the tricks it was using were so obvious I didn't feel completely satisfied and even a little cheated. Distorted, booming voices and screams on top of fuzzy VHS footage and static is probably always going to just be inherently creepy to me and at this point I expect professional feature filmmakers to bring a little more to the table to differentiate it from my next-door neighbor's amateur haunted garage each halloween, ya know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYAbrh7J0ik

I'm always a sucker for "otherworldly voice that shouldn't be coming from that source" scenes like this - overall I didn't care for Fourth Kind but the part you linked owns.

See also Indrid Cold in The Mothman Prophecies and "Simon" in Session 9.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Just got out of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. That was genuinely upsetting :stare:

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Rageaholic posted:

Just got out of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. That was genuinely upsetting :stare:

hellz yeah. Seeing it tomorrow, and that makes me hype.

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Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin

Tart Kitty posted:

I've brought it up about a hundred times here, but I legitimately think that the last act is one of the coolest and most fun setpieces I've ever seen in a horror movie.

Holy poo poo, that factory sequence owns.

Child's Play 2 is pretty great all around. Am I okay just watching the other ones in order or are there any that are just boring-bad?

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