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Annath posted:This Cleric of Mothra piece is pretty cool too: A D&D campaign that takes place in the age that those underwater ruins came from would be pretty neat.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-pnkLN9RTk Doesn't quite fit but it would have been awesome if McCreary could have put the theme in somewhere.
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https://youtu.be/wDfl5NDryXw also now that KOTM discussion is over, can we change the thread title to something not stupid
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I like how reincarnated Kevin tries to get payback on Godzilla in Boston by trying to bite off Big G's head.
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General Kaiju question: Can anyone recommend a Kaiju film, tv series or anime or whatever where the humans explicitly do not have a means of evening the odds against the monsters? Pacific Rim you've got Jaegers, Eva has EVA units to fight Angels, Godzilla either fights for humans or the humans build some super tech like a freeze ray or a Mazer or a Super X. I want to know if there's any franchise out there that treats Kaiju as being truly unstoppable for humans. Something like the first couple of Attack on Titan episodes before Eren discovers he can transform into a Titan; just a line of increasingly desperate plans that continue to fail because humanity is so far out of its element.
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uh, I'm assuming you've seen Shin Godzilla? They stop him at the end, but it's a pyrrhic victory. I don't think humanity "won"
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Cloverfield? True, but I don't really care much for Cloverfield. And yes, Shin is probably closest to what I'm digging for, but it still has super freeze rays. It kicks rear end, don't get me wrong, but I do want to see a setting where the hopelessness is explored fully, and humanity has to learn to adapt rather than to fight on into oblivion. So like the Anime trilogy, except not gently caress-awful.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mFVu514iic I always wanted a movie where a giant Danny Devito destroys Tokyo.
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Arcsquad12 posted:General Kaiju question: Can anyone recommend a Kaiju film, tv series or anime or whatever where the humans explicitly do not have a means of evening the odds against the monsters? Pacific Rim you've got Jaegers, Eva has EVA units to fight Angels, Godzilla either fights for humans or the humans build some super tech like a freeze ray or a Mazer or a Super X. I want to know if there's any franchise out there that treats Kaiju as being truly unstoppable for humans. Something like the first couple of Attack on Titan episodes before Eren discovers he can transform into a Titan; just a line of increasingly desperate plans that continue to fail because humanity is so far out of its element. The Heisei Gamera trilogy, the third one especially, all of which incidentally are among the best kaiju movies ever made
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Humanity is only really able to stop Godzilla in a small minority of films. Also read Half Century War.
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Isn't Daimajin basically an unstoppable force in those films?
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This looks kinda neat
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Cover doesn't look like diarrhea like the regular version
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It's a pity we barely ever get a nice clean look at Legendary!Godzilla Lotta people put a lotta work into it and most of the time it's obscured by the weather
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Godzilla looks like a dog halfway through getting dropped in a pool
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Penpal posted:uh, I'm assuming you've seen Shin Godzilla? They stop him at the end, but it's a pyrrhic victory. I don't think humanity "won" It's uncertain if the victory would last, but I wouldn't call it anywhere near pyrrhic. Japan is rebuilding, the capital wasn't nuked (although there's still the timer near zero. It's always the post-war era, after all.) and the rads are dying down faster than anyone expected. Add in the new technologies available from analyzing Godzilla, and it's all seeming like relatively minor damage considering this was potentially human extinction on the line. When one guy in a fight winds up with a broken nose, and the other guy is left eating canvas, that's still a clear win. As for the lack of movies where humanity just loses, they're pretty rare on the ground, especially when you count a monster happening to help more than harm as a human win, for pretty simple reasons. Big budget films generally want their protagonists to matter. They can screw up, sure, but if nothing they do could change the outcome, audiences tend to question why they watched it in the first place. Horror films often challenge that setup, but they also tend to pretend that things could change until the end, giving the antagonist apparent vulnerabilities and making it interact with the protagonists on a personal level. Kaiju movies, by their inherent nature, don't do that as easily.
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Basebf555 posted:I think we all know that Kong vs. Godzilla will be similar to Batman vs. Superman where they have an early clash but then of course there will be a bigger threat that will force them to team up. (Joke's probably been made before, oh well.)
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Crows Turn Off posted:"Mothra? Why did you say that name?!" An interminable number of times, yes
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Crows Turn Off posted:"Mothra? Why did you say that name?!" 
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https://twitter.com/takeuchmasahiro/status/1165064938382954496 The new Toho movie is looking great
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Vinylshadow posted:https://twitter.com/takeuchmasahiro/status/1165064938382954496 Muffled Heart Sutra is heard in the distance.
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Hello, godzilla thread. "Enjoy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdAlV8zqTBw&hd=1
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Vinylshadow posted:https://twitter.com/takeuchmasahiro/status/1165064938382954496 Invasion of Afro Monster
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HannibalBarca posted:somewhat miffed that the digital copy of the blu ray apparently (?) has no option for turning on the director commentary If you're in iTunes it's there.
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HannibalBarca posted:somewhat miffed that the digital copy of the blu ray apparently (?) has no option for turning on the director commentary Wait, did they pull some Star Trek Into Darkness bullshit and lock the commentary onto one service?
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Goddamned does this movie have a horrific sense of setting and geography. The ice at the arctic base that goes from thin enough for Godzilla to break through (with deep enough water for him to swim right up) but then thick enough to hold his and KG's weight. And the base itself seems to fall into a bottomless pit. Then there's the hurricane/tropical storm that KG creates. When shown on the radar, it's roughly the size of 1/3 of the continental U.S. which makes it ridiculous for our heroes to think it's natural (at first) but then they fly in the storm's direction, where KG is presumably in the middle, which in turn means that they traverse many hundreds of miles in seconds, and don't do so in severe hurricane-like weather. Add that to the fast travel of just about everyone in the movie (weren't the other titans on other loving continents? and they all get there simultaneously for the end of the match) and it smacks of incredibly lazy writing.
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At the very least, some of the Kaiju are traveling through special tunnels that were theorized to exist and seemingly proven out. And the Arctic base was already a deep tunneled out thing that was then intentionally blasted further to unleash Larry, Curly, and Moe.
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*ding*Mr. Funny Pants posted:Goddamned does this movie have a horrific sense of setting and geography. The ice at the arctic base that goes from thin enough for Godzilla to break through (with deep enough water for him to swim right up) but then thick enough to hold his and KG's weight. And the base itself seems to fall into a bottomless pit.
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"All the kaiju in the movie have lifetime passes to the hollow tunnels around the Earth to move quickly between continents" is the attempted explanation for the quick movement. Doesn't really work for half of the land based Kaiju but it does for the big G.
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That stuff is so strange because one of the neatest things about G14 was the navel escort Godzilla gets. Why get rid of that when you could just hand wave Ghidorah flying super fast to get around the world anyway?
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Goddamned does this movie have a horrific sense of setting and geography. The ice at the arctic base that goes from thin enough for Godzilla to break through (with deep enough water for him to swim right up) but then thick enough to hold his and KG's weight. And the base itself seems to fall into a bottomless pit. I agree but the hurricane size is actually not impossible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Tip#Records_and_meteorological_statistics Chronojam posted:At the very least, some of the Kaiju are traveling through special tunnels that were theorized to exist and seemingly proven out. And the Arctic base was already a deep tunneled out thing that was then intentionally blasted further to unleash Larry, Curly, and Moe. the tunnels, if anything just raise further questions about how they move around
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The tunnels are indeed clumsy and raise questions but it is supposed to help link together some older stuff and the recent Kong movie (which also features the tunnels to try to link in other monsters appearing there). They're clearly nowhere near as cool as Godzilla being the key feature in a naval task force.
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Violator posted:That stuff is so strange because one of the neatest things about G14 was the navel escort Godzilla gets. Why get rid of that when you could just hand wave Ghidorah flying super fast to get around the world anyway? ghidorah is an alien and can do whatever he wants.
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CelticPredator posted:ghidorah is an alien and can do whatever he wants. I mean they basically flat out say this in the movie. The joke is that scientists are trying to make sense of a Kaiju movie and the only times they're right is when they figure out the genre trappings
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Goddamned does this movie have a horrific sense of setting and geography. The ice at the arctic base that goes from thin enough for Godzilla to break through (with deep enough water for him to swim right up) but then thick enough to hold his and KG's weight. And the base itself seems to fall into a bottomless pit. Also, there are no giant monsters running around on Earth, they really messed it up this time!
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DeimosRising posted:I agree but the hurricane size is actually not impossible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Tip#Records_and_meteorological_statistics That's an amazing article. But it sort of confirms what I said. The storm in that Wiki is the largest ever recorded and was double the size of the previous record holder. In other words, it was a ridiculously freaky occurrence. Which means they should have said something, just a throwaway line, "I've never seen a hurricane that big." "Maybe it's not a hurricane..." The real reason I suspect, other than laziness, is that for the map to be recognizable for viewers, the POV had to be pulled way back from the planet, which in turn meant that a believable hurricane would have been too small on the monitor to have visual impact. All of which is to say that the makers were lazy fucks who couldn't come up with a more imaginative way to get the message across. mandatory lesbian posted:Also, there are no giant monsters running around on Earth, they really messed it up this time! Exactly! My god the violations of physHEY I SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. Chronojam posted:The tunnels are indeed clumsy and raise questions but it is supposed to help link together some older stuff and the recent Kong movie (which also features the tunnels to try to link in other monsters appearing there). I'm fine with the tunnels, it was their implementation that sucked. It's easy to handwave say, warp speed or transporters in Star Trek because they (especially warp speed) are necessary for the plot. So we tell Einstein to shut the gently caress up and let us watch the Enterprise blow poo poo up. But in this case, it was as if the writers didn't want to have to deal with the time in between set pieces and the logistics of it all (time that could have been used for character development) so they got rid of it. Honestly, the more I watch it the more jarring it is when compared to 2014. 2014 looks goddamned near art-house in comparison. Mr. Funny Pants fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Goddamned does this movie have a horrific sense of setting and geography. The ice at the arctic base that goes from thin enough for Godzilla to break through (with deep enough water for him to swim right up) but then thick enough to hold his and KG's weight. And the base itself seems to fall into a bottomless pit. Yea this immediately jumped out at me in the theater and took me right out of the movie for a few minutes. First I'm thinking "hmmm that's odd that Godzilla just swam right up on them like that" , but then two seconds later he and Ghidorah are just standing on the ice fighting and it makes zero sense how they could be doing that if the water is deep enough for Godzilla to have snuck up on them from below.
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