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FF7 question: If I missed the Added Cut materia, can I go back and get it again soon, or should I just reload the previous save?
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Aug 22, 2019 00:12
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Elephant Ambush posted:I stopped playing FF8 right after the fight with Torg or whatever its name was. Even with random encounters turned off the game has tons of unnecessary padding that forces you to run around different places doing what amounts to fetch quests and mini games instead of letting you just move on with the plot and fight the next boss. I like how he just literally had hooded robed cultists running the entire place and Cid was like "yep, seems legit, this is the best source of funding available to me" nobody's mentioned how the generic not-moogle race literally was part of the life cycle of the mind flayers that lived in a secret underground biodome yet 8 was wild
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Aug 22, 2019 00:16
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Open Marriage Night posted:FF7 question: If I missed the Added Cut materia, can I go back and get it again soon, or should I just reload the previous save? You can return to Great Glacier pretty much whenever, so long as Cloud is the party lead.
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Aug 22, 2019 00:16
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Force Your Way is a good song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pd0ALPOhnQ
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Aug 22, 2019 00:55
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Soken's a living god but that remix didn't do it for me. I wish he went buttrock with it. I much prefer the Black Mages version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zev79FxRjO4
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Aug 22, 2019 01:26
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Let’s also not forget in VIII that you get to fight and murder Galbadia’s hockey team. For reasons. And the reasons are MURDER.
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Aug 22, 2019 01:58
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Tall Tale Teller posted:Let’s also not forget in VIII that you get to fight and murder Galbadia’s hockey team.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:01
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They were probably sentient. Edit: I just looked em’ up on some wiki. Turns out they’re a “demi-human hockey team” What the hell man?
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Aug 22, 2019 02:03
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It’s a hosed up world if the only opportunities for demihumans to get higher education is to go in through hockey scholarships. Even in Final Fantasy the NCAA is loving vile.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:07
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Aug 22, 2019 02:15
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Weve barely begun discussing that human women having sorcery powers is a curse for them kicking gods rear end so hard he had to run away and never return.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:19
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somebody out here really be walking around thinking the bevelle cloister that they designed is fun and engaging gameplay huh
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Aug 22, 2019 02:26
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Sapozhnik posted:somebody out here really be walking around thinking the bevelle cloister that they designed is fun and engaging gameplay huh It's a toss up for me if I hate that one, or the Macalania one with the fiddly as hell pedestals you have to push around more.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:36
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Nah this is definitely worse. At least in Macalania you don't have this idiotic semi-random mine cart bullshit. Bevelle doesn't even let me pretend that my time has value. Quite a shock immediately after a pretty nice set of plot beats. I'm 34 years old now and I last played this game when I was exactly half my current age. I remember the basic plot outline and some locations but I'd blotted everything related to these fuckass cloisters from my mind. Crazy what sorts of bad camera and stupid gameplay filler we used to put up with eh boys. At least the goofy-rear end music makes it slightly more bearable. Sapozhnik fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Aug 22, 2019 02:52
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i wonder what it's like if you're a summoner and your journey starts in bevelle. yes our religion views machinery as heresy. except these sick flamethrowers and muay thai robots. and the cool, cool escalators in our temple. we built a whole puzzle out of it!
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Aug 22, 2019 03:22
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Merilan posted:i wonder what it's like if you're a summoner and your journey starts in bevelle. and the giant blitzball stadium and television Everybody already knows that official Yevon policy is "it's okay if we say it's okay" so I don't think the fact that Bevelle is loaded with guns and escalators comes as that much of a shock EDIT: also I'm pretty sure Yuna's dad started in Bevelle and his journey's general feel was "me and my guardians are already considered heretics or scum, I literally had to bail Jecht out of jail just to start this, I'm going to kill sin just to rub it in everyone's smug hypocrite faces" cock hero flux fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Aug 22, 2019 03:57
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Isn't machina that's specifically blessed by priests of Yevon supposed to be okay? I thought they said something about that just before Operation Mi'hen about how it wasn't heresy because the high priests were all cool with using the guns or whatever (Wakka didn't buy it, but the average person who hadn't lost a brother to machina-related military death probably would)
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Aug 22, 2019 05:54
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Star Man posted:Selphie is bae normally i'd ask "how can someone with fewer lines than an NPC be your bae" but people have fallen for less Mega64 posted:FF5 = FF10/2 hmm. no. 7 is the prequel to 10
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Aug 22, 2019 05:58
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grieving for Gandalf posted:a lot of FF8 doesn't hold up for me because of stuff like that. did everyone who participated in the field exam beat Ifrit? did they all get an Ifrit as a GF? no, they got to pick better GFs from other places. Ifrit was the *leftovers* because you got dunked in a mock fight thanks to your overexciteable rival.
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Aug 22, 2019 06:39
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Merilan posted:i wonder what it's like if you're a summoner and your journey starts in bevelle. This is something I've never understood about FFX, actually. I love the game's worldbuilding and writing but the fact our heroes were outraged by this baffles me. We're told explicitly by Wakka and Lulu that Yevon decides which machine are good and bad. The Blitzball stadium is far , far more technologically advanced than escalators. The guns and robots are another thing as that is explicitly the kind of machina Yevon is against but it's the simple. not-weapon machina in the temple that makes them flip out. Mega64 posted:It’s a hosed up world if the only opportunities for demihumans to get higher education is to go in through hockey scholarships. I never thought about it but it's kinda interesting all these Square JRPGs at the time had demihumans. FFVIII, Xenogears and Chrono Cross with it being a pretty big plot element in the latter two. You gotta figure though the entire term "demihuman" is racist as it implies that humanity is the metric all other races are judged against. Although in Xenogears' case demihumans were actually just regular humans once upon a time while they are explicitly their own species and culture in CC. And I'm thinking too much about this. Maybe they aren't even called demihuman in Japanese. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Aug 22, 2019 07:03
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zedprime posted:It's not murder, they are tamed hockey playing monsters. They taught the monsters to play hockey as a way to keep them occupied until they needed them to fight something and it was good training anyway. Man I really do not remember FF8 clearly at all
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Aug 22, 2019 07:08
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The White Dragon posted:hmm. no. 7 is the prequel to 10 Strike that, reverse it. Barudak posted:Weve barely begun discussing that human women having sorcery powers is a curse for them kicking gods rear end so hard he had to run away and never return. Specifically he got so scared that they'd kill him that he tore a part of himself off and threw it at them to give himself a chance to escape. That piece became the inherent magic that sorceresses must pass down to a new generation before they can die; they're basically immortal until they decide not to be, though it seems like trying to live too much longer than the average human makes them crazy. Ageless immortality goes a long way towards explaining why Edea remains a youthful as she appears in-game while Cid is Discount Robin Williams, now that I think about it.
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Aug 22, 2019 07:54
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CeallaSo posted:Ageless immortality goes a long way towards explaining why Edea remains a youthful as she appears in-game while Cid is Discount Robin Williams, now that I think about it. cid has other... assets, that make him desirable to a smokin hot woman like edea for instance his great personality
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Aug 22, 2019 07:58
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CeallaSo posted:Strike that, reverse it. The whole Sorceress Immortality thing is a big part of the R=U confusion. A lot of people think Sorceresses just can't die unless they are killed and pass on their powers. Ultimecia herself has to travel through time to give her powers to Edea before she can pass on. And it makes sense that they shot Adel into space if she literally can't die without passing o n her powers. But we're told Adel was dying and that's why she was desperate to find somebody to pass her powers on to in the first place. So I have no idea what we're supposed to think. Shocking no one, FFVIII has bad worldbuilding. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Aug 22, 2019 08:16
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NikkolasKing posted:But we're told Adel was dying and that's why she was desperate to find somebody to pass her powers onto. A nd it makes sense that they shot Adel into space if she literally can't die without passing o n her powers. When are we told this? Adel was a nasty dictator, and the people conned Laguna into getting rid of her for them because she didn't show any signs of going away. And when she came back, she still didn't show any signs of dying (until you kill her). I don't remember it ever being asserted that she was dying or "desperate" to find someone to pass her powers to. Agreed that the lore is poorly explained, though.
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Aug 22, 2019 08:20
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I respect FFXV's commitment to bland sidequests. These frog catching / dog tag finding / ore hunting chains would be right at home in Dragon Age: Inquisition or the MMO.
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Aug 22, 2019 08:36
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Schwartzcough posted:When are we told this? Adel was a nasty dictator, and the people conned Laguna into getting rid of her for them because she didn't show any signs of going away. And when she came back, she still didn't show any signs of dying (until you kill her). I don't remember it ever being asserted that she was dying or "desperate" to find someone to pass her powers to. The hunt for Ellone and a bunch of other girls is because Adel is looking for a successor. They remark that someone intending to rule forever wouldn't bother with a successor, meaning Adel is planning for her own death.
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Aug 22, 2019 08:37
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I might be planning my own death but if you try to murder me I might want to live longer to spite murder you before resuming my plan to die.
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Aug 22, 2019 08:55
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Randallteal posted:I respect FFXV's commitment to bland sidequests. These frog catching / dog tag finding / ore hunting chains would be right at home in Dragon Age: Inquisition or the MMO. Welcome to open world gameplay.
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Aug 22, 2019 10:35
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The White Dragon posted:normally i'd ask "how can someone with fewer lines than an NPC be your bae" but people have fallen for less Did you even play FF8? Selphie writes a blog entry for nearly every single plot event in the game, she has a lot of lines
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Aug 22, 2019 10:51
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Booourns posted:Did you even play FF8? Selphie writes a blog entry for nearly every single plot event in the game, she has a lot of lines A blog on a PC you never, ever have to go to outside the very beginning of the game. If you weren't aware of it you could very easily go through the entire game without knowing it existed.
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Aug 22, 2019 10:55
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BisbyWorl posted:A blog on a PC you never, ever have to go to outside the very beginning of the game. a blog on a PC you can only ever access in the room you start the game in
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Aug 22, 2019 11:06
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The White Dragon posted:a blog on a PC you can only ever access in the room you start the game in Doesn't the blog only start after the SeeD exam as well? So you have to go to a specific room after the SeeD exam to hit up a computer that was purely info about the Garden until that point (if you even knew you could use it during gameplay period), with no real prompt that Selphie hijacked part of the network for her blog.
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Aug 22, 2019 11:11
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Aug 22, 2019 13:22
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well that was a sudden rush of memories I don't care much for in retrospect, thanks
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Aug 22, 2019 13:29
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The White Dragon posted:cid has other... assets, that make him desirable to a smokin hot woman like edea "oops, sorry miss, I dropped my monster condom that I use for my MAGNUM DONG"
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Aug 22, 2019 14:54
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Now that's not all what Selphie's about... She's also the first party member to suggest terrorism or murder as a method of completing nearly any SEED mission! Lovable rascal, she is.
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Aug 22, 2019 15:37
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The absolute best writing in FFVIII was this exchange: Irvine: They'll be fine. I'm sure they can get outta there [the D-District Prison] when the time comes. Rinoa: You don't know for sure. Squall might say 'but no one has ordered me to escape', and end up staying in there.
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Aug 22, 2019 15:53
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NikkolasKing posted:The absolute best writing in FFVIII was this exchange: Rinoa Was Right
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Aug 22, 2019 16:04
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NikkolasKing posted:The absolute best writing in FFVIII was this exchange: lmao
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