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Didnt Zach Braff beat a child to death or something
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Aug 23, 2019 12:35
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immortalyawn posted:Didnt Zach Braff beat a child to death or something Lmao what
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Aug 23, 2019 12:45
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immortalyawn posted:Didnt Zach Braff beat a child to death or something I think the worst I've ever heard him accused of is making a pretty bad movie?
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Aug 23, 2019 13:02
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uh, you mean this?
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Aug 23, 2019 13:06
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How do you miss punching someone in the stomach in a street fight? Zach Braff sucks at fighting.
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Aug 23, 2019 13:09
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I’m kind of surprised hidden camera prank shows like that didn’t have more violence honestly.
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Aug 23, 2019 13:10
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They probably do, it just relatively rarely involves celebrities.Solice Kirsk posted:How do you miss punching someone in the stomach in a street fight? Zach Braff sucks at fighting. Most people do, and that's a good thing.
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Aug 23, 2019 13:16
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Most people don't throw body shots in a bar/street fight. It's usually just the Barroom Haymaker.
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Aug 23, 2019 14:02
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bobjr posted:I’m kind of surprised hidden camera prank shows like that didn’t have more violence honestly. Ellen Pompeo did threaten to stab a waitress in one ep but Justin Timberlake crying and Elijah Wood feeling awful were the best episodes imo
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Aug 23, 2019 14:11
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There was also one where Seth Green thought he was going to be killed by gangsters or something because he realized the federal agents arresting him had the wrong letters on their jackets and wouldn’t acknowledge it.
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Aug 23, 2019 14:18
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The one thing I remember everyone being angry at Zach Braff about was him funding his lovely indie movie via Kickstarter.
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Aug 23, 2019 14:24
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bobjr posted:I’m kind of surprised hidden camera prank shows like that didn’t have more violence honestly. I'm surprised no-one gets shot. I'd imagine that some celebs must carry, given that a) they look like they have lots od money and b) absolutely insane fans.
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Aug 23, 2019 15:22
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Netflix put Pocahontas on my list for some reason so I watched a bit of it and I gotta say it's really weird seeing the whole "noble savage" thing played 100% straight in 2019. I kind of wonder if that movie was what made it start fall out of favor.
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Aug 23, 2019 15:57
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The Moon Monster posted:Netflix put Pocahontas on my list for some reason so I watched a bit of it and I gotta say it's really weird seeing the whole "noble savage" thing played 100% straight in 2019. I kind of wonder if that movie was what made it start fall out of favor. Mel Gibson voices the main guy John Smith.
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Aug 23, 2019 16:47
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Gaunab posted:Mel Gibson voices the main guy John Smith. They also made John Smith a clean-shaven blonde pretty boy instead of the doughy beard-o he actually was.
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Aug 23, 2019 16:59
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Pocahontas was always such a sweet inspirational story in elementary school textbooks. She helped the colonists, got married, became the toast of Europe, died of small pox all before the age of 21 because she was dead by then. Perfect material for a Disney movie.
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Aug 23, 2019 17:36
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The Moon Monster posted:Netflix put Pocahontas on my list for some reason so I watched a bit of it and I gotta say it's really weird seeing the whole "noble savage" thing played 100% straight in 2019. I kind of wonder if that movie was what made it start fall out of favor. Here this is really good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ARX0-AylFI
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Aug 23, 2019 20:00
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Aesop Poprock posted:Here this is really good This is 30 minutes long
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Aug 24, 2019 00:12
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Len posted:This is 30 minutes long Yeah, it's pretty short for one of Lindsay's videos.
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Aug 24, 2019 00:23
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It's also not really good. I don't get the obsession with her. I tried watching The Hobbit review thingy and it was like watching a student film, only it was complaining about a bad movie. If that's your thing then more power to you, but I really don't get the appeal. Maybe I'm just getting old.
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Aug 24, 2019 00:24
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I'd rather read a blog post than watch a 30 minute video and I miss the days when people wrote things rather than made monetized YouTube videos
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Aug 24, 2019 01:08
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If you want to analyse a movie the ability to show clips is an advantage.
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Aug 24, 2019 01:11
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Doctor Spaceman posted:If you want to analyse a movie the ability to show clips is an advantage. Embed clips in the essay on a blog then. It comes down to taste but that's why to this day I still haven't watched the Episode 1 review the internet lost its mind about
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Aug 24, 2019 01:14
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I don't get the obsession with that either. It's the most annoying voice I've ever heard and that review is like 4 hours long or something.
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Aug 24, 2019 01:17
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Len posted:I'd rather read a blog post than watch a 30 minute video and I miss the days when people wrote things rather than made monetized YouTube videos it very much reads like an essay that ranges over a number of topics related to exactly why pocahontas sucks as a film and as doctor spaceman said, it's way easier to criticize media when you can throw in all kinds of examples of what you're talking about without describing them tldr -pocahontas was awful because they totally botched the character of pocahontas, made her super sexy and the noblest of savages, and then tried to be all 90's enlightened by saying "both sides did bad stuff" regarding european settlement of north america -it was also crazy culturally appropriative -disney is branded as light children's entertainment so they stumble real hard when they try to talk about non-white narratives or colonialism -disney learned though and made much less offensive films, notably lilo and stich, and moana was basically pocahontas again but done much better (still kinda bad) -disney also continues to stumble though with stuff like the princess and the frog -so disney is doing better at portraying characters other than white but they have a long way to go Len posted:Embed clips in the essay on a blog then gonna suck in a year when people are trying to read your essay and half the links are dead
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Aug 24, 2019 01:31
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Seems kinda weird to complain about someone dissecting why a movie didn't age well in a thread devoted to stuff that didn't age well. 98 percent of youtube is puerile trash and gamers so Lindsey's videos are fine by me.
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Aug 24, 2019 02:12
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Moana is great and I will fight you.
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Aug 24, 2019 02:52
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luxury handset posted:it very much reads like an essay that ranges over a number of topics related to exactly why pocahontas sucks as a film and as doctor spaceman said, it's way easier to criticize media when you can throw in all kinds of examples of what you're talking about without describing them That video is 2 years old and still up. You trying to tell me if she's posted the relevant clips on her YouTube they would be gone?
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Aug 24, 2019 03:01
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Len posted:That video is 2 years old and still up. You trying to tell me if she's posted the relevant clips on her YouTube they would be gone? folks don't really like you cutting and rehosting a bunch of short clips of their copyrighted content on your page. it's a ton of work now, maybe if you collected all those clips together into one big video, it would be easier to repackage under fair use. maybe also you could put a little narration over it or something to contextualize it
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Aug 24, 2019 03:04
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Moana is great and I will fight you. Moana is great but its handling of Polynesian culture is a bit iffy. It's obviously not intended to be disrespectful but it still somewhat is.
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Aug 24, 2019 03:12
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luxury handset posted:folks don't really like you cutting and rehosting a bunch of short clips of their copyrighted content on your page. it's a ton of work I mean maybe but I'm going to click the link see it's someone talking about a movie for 1/3 of the run time and close the tab. Ain't nobody got time for that when there's still shitloads of movies and TV shows I haven't seen. Now you give me the ability to read what they have to say when I'm sitting at my desk that doesn't have speakers and you're onto something.
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Aug 24, 2019 03:13
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Len posted:I mean maybe but I'm going to click the link see it's someone talking about a movie for 1/3 of the run time and close the tab. Ain't nobody got time for that when there's still shitloads of movies and TV shows I haven't seen. So video essays don't work for you as a medium. Don't watch them! Problem solved!
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Aug 24, 2019 04:14
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The Moon Monster posted:Netflix put Pocahontas on my list for some reason so I watched a bit of it and I gotta say it's really weird seeing the whole "noble savage" thing played 100% straight in 2019. I kind of wonder if that movie was what made it start fall out of favor. The best thing about Pocahontas is that Disney was convinced it was going to be a huge critical success - animators working on the Lion King were trying to switch teams so they could get away from the stupid talking animal movie and work on the serious historical drama... And then it came out and everyone was "What is this racist bullshit?" and "This is historically offensive even by Disney's standards", while the Lion King became a beloved hit for a generation.
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Aug 24, 2019 07:03
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Absurd Alhazred posted:So video essays don't work for you as a medium. Don't watch them! Problem solved! A solution they mentioned in their first post even. I don’t see why Len can’t post their opinions and reasoning for it?
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Aug 24, 2019 07:06
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Len posted:I mean maybe but I'm going to click the link see it's someone talking about a movie for 1/3 of the run time and close the tab. Ain't nobody got time for that when there's still shitloads of movies and TV shows I haven't seen. I've gone the same way. So many of those video essays are overly long, basic film crit / media 101 and full of skits / forced comedy that it's much faster to watch the subject show and turn off if you don't like it. Lindsay Ellis has made some fine points but she's practically part of the machine she's criticising.
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Aug 24, 2019 07:14
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Len posted:I mean maybe but I'm going to click the link see it's someone talking about a movie for 1/3 of the run time and close the tab. Ain't nobody got time for that when there's still shitloads of movies and TV shows I haven't seen. if you spent thirty minutes reading something vs watching a thirty minute video, it shakes out i get not wanting to watch lots of bad video, or read lots of bad words, but lindasy ellis generally is real good at media criticism
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Aug 24, 2019 08:30
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It does not take thirty minutes to read the same amount of info as a thirty minute video
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Aug 24, 2019 09:09
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Len posted:Embed clips in the essay on a blog then. It comes down to taste but that's why to this day I still haven't watched the Episode 1 review the internet lost its mind about Assuming you're talking about the Plinkett review, you're not missing a single thing imo. It's slow and droning and parts of it are creepy as gently caress. Solice Kirsk posted:I don't get the obsession with that either. It's the most annoying voice I've ever heard and that review is like 4 hours long or something. People were upset that the prequels weren't what they wanted or as good as they should have been and someone doing a massive takedown of it gave them something to rally around.
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Aug 24, 2019 09:33
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Angry Salami posted:while the Lion King became a beloved hit for a generation. I'd argue it's the best of the 90s Disney renaissance films, at least for the target market. They had such a solid series of movies but Lion King (and Aladdin) are the two that keep kids entertained from start to finish. Beauty and the Beast is of course great still but it does have a lot that goes over kids heads and bores them in the middle. It just feels a bit more targeted towards young teens and up than the others.
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Aug 24, 2019 10:12
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Angry Salami posted:The best thing about Pocahontas is that Disney was convinced it was going to be a huge critical success - animators working on the Lion King were trying to switch teams so they could get away from the stupid talking animal movie and work on the serious historical drama... Well the animation IS pretty great, although it makes Virginia look more like Pandora or possibly Valinor.
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