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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Milo and POTUS posted:

America is a part of Russia?

Too soon comrade er I mean friend... too soon.

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Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE

Milo and POTUS posted:

America is a part of Russia?

Let's revisit this on November 4th 2020.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




June 9th, Norway secede from the union with Sweden and the swedish flag is taken down and the norwegian flag is raised on Akershus Fortress:

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Alhazred posted:

June 9th, Norway secede from the union with Sweden and the swedish flag is taken down and the norwegian flag is raised on Akershus Fortress:


Thats dope as hell, gently caress you sweden :norway:

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

Alhazred posted:

June 9th, Norway secede from the union with Sweden and the swedish flag is taken down and the norwegian flag is raised on Akershus Fortress:


Clarification: this occurred in 1905, not earlier this week.

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Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Alhazred posted:

I didn't really talk about Finland but countries like Crimea where its hard to not argue that the end goal was not eradication so that russians could move in

Yes but the conversation was about Finland and my posts was about how wrong it is to claim that the Soviet Union, when it invaded Finland, "tried to kill everyone and failing that, send the rest to the Siberia". Because for Finland specifically and the majority of people and ethnic groups within the Soviet Union or its annexed/occupied lands, that was not the case. Especially not so for populations/minorities as numerous as the Finns (would be third largest ethnic group, close behind Kazaks and Uzbeks). You can find tables with numbers in chapter 5 of this freely available academic book that shows examples of the relatively low amount of deaths. The book also goes into detail of the reasons why the purges happened and the logic behind them (hint, it was paranoia and racism coupled with trying to force a communist society into existence).

I'm not saying killings, deportations and repressions are good, that they didn't happen or that it was not a spectrum of genocide against several of the 188 ethnicities present in the Soviet Union. I'm just saying that someone posting that the Soviet Union "tried to kill everyone and failing that, send the rest to the Siberia" in regards to its invasions of Finland, is spewing dumb loving hyperbole.

Unrelated, here is some ancient cave art that shows an example of those cave paintings where the hand was missing parts of fingers.

Temaukel
Mar 28, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Zudgemud posted:

Unrelated, here is some ancient cave art that shows an example of those cave paintings where the hand was missing parts of fingers.


Maybe making that hand gesture had a particular significance. I think that's more likely than a guy missing his third and second phalanx bone in all fingers except the thumb and index. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the hand on the right is holding up the index, middle finger and thumb.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



caveman allstar

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Temaukel posted:

Maybe making that hand gesture had a particular significance. I think that's more likely than a guy missing his third and second phalanx bone in all fingers except the thumb and index. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the hand on the right is holding up the index, middle finger and thumb.

Interpreting the missing digits as sign language have been a favorite too, especially as several rock paintings in Australia have have clear sign language uses. But other cave art from France look very different and there it could make more sense with ritual amputation, which was apparently not as uncommon as one might think considering these researchers found 121 groups where the practice occurred in recent history, even among hunter gatherers.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Zudgemud posted:

Unrelated, here is some ancient cave art that shows an example of those cave paintings where the hand was missing parts of fingers.


She was looking kinda dumb
With her finger and her thumb
In the shape of an L
On some cave art

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

https://twitter.com/UrbanFoxxxx/status/1140668673620926464

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




There's a new theory, based on the fingers on the handprints, that a lot of the cavepainters were female:

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Alhazred posted:

There's a new theory, based on the fingers on the handprints, that a lot of the cavepainters were female:


Would make sense; males out doing the hunting/gathering, woman at home doing the decorating.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Gonna take this thread out of its summer slumber: The Deutsche Fotothek has digitised and made accessible thousands of photographs and motives of German postcard publisher Brück & Sohn, dating from the 1880s to 1989. The Fotothek is somewhat notorious for taking things that legally should be public and free and charging hefty fees for the download, but thankfully it's quite easy to grab their data nonetheless!


A Chinese family in LA, 1903


Women plucking Tea on the Lehtenty Estate in Ceylon, c. 1897


Catholic monk in the garden of Santa Barbara Mission, CA, 1903

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

System Metternich posted:


A Chinese family in LA, 1903

I used to color in the history text book photos with my highlighters too.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

What the hell, while I'm at it I might as well show off some other collections of the Fotothek. Here for example is its Sorbian collection: The Sorbs are a Slavic-speaking minority in Germany that mainly lives in the states of Saxony and Brandenburg. They are divided into Upper and Lower Sorbs, who speak different yet mutually intelligible dialects (some might also say languages). Until the early 20th century, they settled in a contiguous area where they were the majority (except in the larger cities, which were mainly populated by German speakers) and at its peak in around 1800 might have numbered more than 250,000 people. Assimilation, Germanisation, expulsion due to war and coal mining and two German dictatorships led to a strong decline, however. Now there are about 60,000 self-identified Sorbs left, of which about a third still speaks the language. Most of the self-identified Sorbs live in the Catholic Upper Sorbian area, whereas the Lower Sorbian language and culture have nearly gone extinct by now. The town of Serbin, Texas, was originally founded by Sorbian emigrants.

The Fotothek's Sorbian collection covers about 21,000 pictures from the 1860s to the 1980s.


A Lower Sorbian woman in mourning, 1870


A farmstead in Trjebin/Trebendorf, c. 1890


Sorbian baptism, c. 1896


Passenger transport on the river Spree in Lědy/Lehde, 1896


Lower Sorbian women in the traditional spinning attire, 1900


Catholic Sorbs from Kulow/Wittichenau in the attire traditionally worn to confession, 1905


Protestant mourning attire in Klětno/Klitten, 1905


The traditional Catholic Sorbian Easter procession in Budyšin/Bautzen, c. 1940


Representatives of the Sorbian association at a local conference of the socialist party of East Germany, 1956


A Sorbian wedding couple in Budyšin/Bautzen, 1980s


Not from the Fotothek, but still interesting: protests against a planned eviction of the villagers due to coal mining in Klětno/Klitten, 1990.

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IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Can someone tell me who the person in the background of the gif below is? The army officer looking person behind Billy Joel? If this is the wrong thread, my apologies!

beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG
Oliver North?

St_Ides
May 19, 2008

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Can someone tell me who the person in the background of the gif below is? The army officer looking person behind Billy Joel? If this is the wrong thread, my apologies!



Oliver North

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Thanks!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
An american patriot who was wrongfully slandered by the liberal nazi media for doing his duty

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.
Sharing a post from the historical facts thread.




Anti urination devices dating to the late 19th century in Norwich. The idea was to deflect streams from pissers to make them do their business elsewhere. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_urination_devices_in_Norwich



Chalice of the Abbot Suger of Saint-Denis cathedral in Paris. The original cup, made from a single piece of sardonyx, was carved in Egypt in the first or second centuries BCE. It somehow made its way to France over the centuries, where the Abbot commissioned the mounting in 1137. The final artifact is thus made from parts created over a thousand years apart. It’s on display at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, D.C. and it is really beautiful in person. I definitely thought that the swirls and beautiful fluting of the original cup was better looking than the gilded silver mounting.

Shellception
Oct 12, 2016

"I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

Kevin DuBrow posted:

Sharing a post from the historical facts thread.




Anti urination devices dating to the late 19th century in Norwich. The idea was to deflect streams from pissers to make them do their business elsewhere. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_urination_devices_in_Norwich

Those are all over the old quarters of my city in southern Spain, too. Thought they were commonplace everywhere, guess not.

frankee
Dec 29, 2017

New York back in 1911


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aohXOpKtns0

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

Pookah posted:

Jesus.

I know civil wars are always particularly nasty, but how the gently caress does a country recover from a time when your conscript children were murdered by people you might well have to live next door to. That's how generational blood feuds begin.

Thats just basically all of european history. Just countless, mostly pointless, wars between neighbours

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Zzulu posted:

Thats just basically all of european history. Just countless, mostly pointless, wars between neighbours

This was somewhat different in that it was (mostly) literal class warfare. So "neighbours" in some sense, possibly, but not in the Mr. Rogers sense.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

Kevin DuBrow posted:

Sharing a post from the historical facts thread.




Haha this was weird to stumble across, I walked past this thing multiple times a week for 15 years and had an immediate feeling of nostalgia and knew it was Norwich.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang





who knows why they held hands... theyre definitely not gay, that is a 20th century invention

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


♫ Two skeletons
Chillin' in a grave
Two feet apart cause they're not gay ♪

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Bunch of photos from the archives of the Cryolite Mining and Trading Company (1854–1987) that ran mines in Ivigtut, Greenland have been put online, including a photo album from a private teacher, Ellen Jacobi, who taught the son of the company director 1910–12.


Undated, but from a series dated 1869


Old Marie & Julius

Search:
https://arkiv.dk/soeg?searchstring=kryolith+rigsarkivet
https://arkiv.dk/soeg?searchstring=kryolith+ellen+jacobi

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Krankenstyle posted:

Bunch of photos from the archives of the Cryolite Mining and Trading Company (1854–1987) that ran mines in Ivigtut, Greenland have been put online, including a photo album from a private teacher, Ellen Jacobi, who taught the son of the company director 1910–12.


Undated, but from a series dated 1869


Old Marie & Julius

Search:
https://arkiv.dk/soeg?searchstring=kryolith+rigsarkivet
https://arkiv.dk/soeg?searchstring=kryolith+ellen+jacobi

In the same vein, I've got something for the Americans following this sleepy thread: The Illinois State Library aquired more than a million negatives from the Pantagraph, a Central Illinois newspaper established in 1837. They aim to digitise all of them, and they put the first bunch now online: Nearly 37,000 photos showing life in Central Illinois between 1933 and 1944


Bum camp, 1935


Police officers and a couple of johns arrested at a brothel raid, 1935


Baptist centennial banquet, men with false moustaches, 1937


4-H club cattle judging contest, 1937


President's birthday ball, 1939


Crowd of people around wrecked car, 1940


Police examine a murder scene in Colfax, 1941


Aluminum Drive at Bloomington courthouse, 1941

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drepimetheus
Aug 10, 2018
That is a supremely good post, and the link is outstanding. Thank you so much.

PizzaProwler
Nov 4, 2009

Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
Pillowfights with Dominican mothers.
Seconded. I especially loved the 4-H pic. My great grandparents were farmers during that era, so it made me think of them. They lived in Kansas though, which was an especially bad time and place for farmers to be.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

You know, I wanted to get a better feeling in what sort of area these photos had been taken, so I went to youtube and searched for "central illinois", but all it gave me was pages and pages of poo poo like this:



So now I guess that central Illinois is mostly synonymous for "flat" and "fuckall to do". How close am I? :v:

Brute Hole Force
Dec 25, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Illinois is Wisconsin's schlong, but it least it's not Ohio.

That's the best that can be said of it.

Soysaucebeast
Mar 4, 2008




System Metternich posted:

You know, I wanted to get a better feeling in what sort of area these photos had been taken, so I went to youtube and searched for "central illinois", but all it gave me was pages and pages of poo poo like this:



So now I guess that central Illinois is mostly synonymous for "flat" and "fuckall to do". How close am I? :v:

As someone born and raised in Southern Illinois; very. The yearly town-wide yard sale was the highlight each year. Followed closely by the homecomming. Basically just imagine your typical down-home, farmer town and that'll be the entirety of the state excepting Chicago.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

No idea how long it takes until a thread falls off into the archives, so I'm just gonna crosspost this post of mine over in the historical fun facts thread:

System Metternich posted:



Louis Bourdaloue (1632-1704) was the son of a lawyer famed for his skill in rhetorics. At the early age of 15, Louis entered the Jesuit order with the goal to follow in his father's footsteps and excel at rhetorics. He soon attained a reputation for his excellent homilies, and from 1669 on he regularly held Mass and preached at the court of King Louis XIV. His homilies were both so interesting and downright riveting that all the court flocked to his services to listen to him, bent on not missing even a single word - and his homilies also were long. So, what's a noblewoman to do when she is sitting in church listening intently to her favourite preacher, when suddenly nature calls?

Why, she takes a sauciere with her and just lets go, of course! Some smart craftsmen soon realised that money was to be made there and started producing a slightly differently shaped sauciere which was easier to piss into, calling it the "Bourdalou"


Bourdalou female urinal made from leather at the Wellcome Collection. France, 18th century

And if you ever wondered what an 18th century French noblewoman pissing into a small pot looks like, then Louis XV's official court painter François Boucher has got you covered:


"The intimate Toilette" or "A woman who pees", mid-18th century

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!
That painting is fetish porn, right?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Definitely

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System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Come on guys, we're talking French nobility here

It's not fetish porn, it's a curiosité erotique

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