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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
“more like your friend induced your gag reflex” well he did want to gently caress me tbf. he was married. an old friend from church. I think he briefly hosed my wife but that memory is hazy. aaahh that weird hosed up last year of my marriage 😒

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Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
i turn 40 this year and the last two years have been pretty loving bad

pro-tip: don't get old

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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Cold on a Cob posted:

pro-tip: don't get old


beats the alternative

Shit Copter
Oct 13, 2004
what a P.O.S.
how many quake boomers itt

Zlodo
Nov 25, 2006

Cold on a Cob posted:

i turn 40 this year and the last two years have been pretty loving bad

pro-tip: don't get old

i didnt have much in the way of medical issues and like not even a week after turning 40 i was in pain because of gallstones (it took three painful crises and hospital visits before they could confirm it by seeing the things on an echography because they were always gone by the time the overbooked emergency services would get to me)

also as a last "gently caress you" one of them managed to stay inside and to painfully get out after i got my gallblader removed

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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one day i woke up in blinding pain and couldn't move my left shoulder. When I went to the doctor the fuckshit told me i had "Parsonage Turner Syndrome" and would likely never be able to move my arm again.

Got a second opinion and the guys like "probably a slipped disc, lets get an mri" and it was a pretty bad slipped disc and they were like "we should do surgery, we'll have to go in through the front of your throat"

Got a third opinion and the dude was like "just chill for a while and see if it gets better."

It eventually got better.

When I asked the doctor what might have caused it he said "how many pillows do you sleep on?" and i said "two?" and he said "maybe just one from here on out."

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

what a roller coaster

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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a repo mans life is always intense

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
yeah sometimes poo poo just gets better on it's own

the net result is the science behind physiotherapy and surgeries is actually pretty loving lacking sometimes too

though it's neat af that they do fake surgeries on people to do double-blind studies of surgical procedures

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
also sometimes pain is just "in your head" and i don't mean that in a dismissive, patronizing way. the pain is real, but the underlying cause might just be an oversensitized nervous system.

but there's no test to really confirm this is the case, it's the absence of a physical cause that tends to suggest it

so then sometimes you'll think that was the issue and go through a million doctors and specialists and one day someone finds a benign tumour pressing on a nerve and cuts it out and bam, pain gone

all of these issues increase in likelihood as you age :toot:

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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Cold on a Cob posted:

though it's neat af that they do fake surgeries on people to do double-blind studies of surgical procedures

do abx testing where one person gets the regular surgery, one gets no surgery and one gets a random organ removed.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
edit: spoilered this coz it’s depressing and whiny, don’t feel compelled to read it

rotor posted:

beats the alternative

mate idk

as good as the good parts are, idk if it’s worth the bad parts, and it’s not like i’m gonna regret anything from the afterlife, the only real reason to stay alive is things like children and family and some unhelpful internal desire to avoid death 🤷‍♂️

I read some thread of people discussing how suicide of those close to them affected them and it’s like gently caress I can’t do that to people I love

I’ve kinda worked out that lamenting the reality that I have to carry on makes me miserable, so it’s probably better to move onto those thought patterns onto something forward thinking 🙄:rolleyes: lame

there is a silver lining here tho, being a diabetic etc means I’ll probably have a (hopefully fatal) major cardiac event during my working life so I won’t have to enter into some bleak retirement where I can only afford the cheapest toast and marmalade

it’s possible I guess that enough things change that I wake up pleased to be alive. it would possibly be prudent to strive for that or at least strive for a changed attitude

oh well just arrived at work to spend next 9 hours with only one person, a depressing person who makes me hate coming here

echinopsis fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Aug 27, 2019

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Cold on a Cob posted:

also sometimes pain is just "in your head" and i don't mean that in a dismissive, patronizing way. the pain is real, but the underlying cause might just be an oversensitized nervous system.n likelihood as you age :toot:

yeah meditation can shed interesting light on this

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

echinopsis posted:

yeah meditation can shed interesting light on this

yep, along with a bunch of other techniques i'm still learning about

also for some people with sensitization just reading about how pain works can reduce their pain levels :iiam:

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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part of the thing about having kids is that you have to be a better person, if only for their sake. If that's the only reason you have, well that sucks pretty bad, but its still enough of a reason.

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

rotor posted:

part of the thing about having kids is that you have to be a better person, if only for their sake. If that's the only reason you have, well that sucks pretty bad, but its still enough of a reason.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
your children will also face the inevitable decay of their bodies and their ultimate demise

every story ends the same way

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

your children will also face the inevitable decay of their bodies and their ultimate demise

every story ends the same way

I mean unless you drink that bulletproof coffee stuff

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

rotor posted:

I mean unless you drink that bulletproof coffee stuff

i put a stick of butter in my coffee every day, now my arteries are armored against intruders

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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the butter makes you oily so that when Death tries to grab you it's like "squippp!" and you run away laughing

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

rotor posted:

part of the thing about having kids is that you have to be a better person, if only for their sake. If that's the only reason you have, well that sucks pretty bad, but its still enough of a reason.

hmm yes indeed. especially now as I support myself entirely, I have to make it work. gently caress life sucks if you’re not wealthy but, have to keep plowing away to keep my kids growing up in a safe loving environment so they don’t start adult life wth an already damaged brain, teach them all the things I wasn’t etc

I clearly need to grow rodtronics to the point that it provides enough of an income for me to not work full time. lmao tho at that dream

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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Life can suck regardless of wealth, some of the most miserable people i knew were immensely wealthy. Suffering is basically invariant across a wide cross-section of humans.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

rotor posted:

Life can suck regardless of wealth, some of the most miserable people i knew were immensely wealthy. Suffering is basically invariant across a wide cross-section of humans.
theyre called the four noble truths for a reason

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

people should specify what diabetes they're talking about when talking about issues, there's quite a few variants..

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
i have the second edition

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

rotor posted:

Life can suck regardless of wealth, some of the most miserable people i knew were immensely wealthy. Suffering is basically invariant across a wide cross-section of humans.

hmm maybe but I’d like to find that out for myself. lol. it’s easy to imagine that if I took out the largest source of suffering and regret from my life, my job, that I could enjoy the things in life I actually do enjoy, time with kids and enough time to pursue my interests. 🤷‍♂️ maybe one day LOL

chin up echi. still got some years yet. turn that frown upside down

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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so a while back I was doing a thing for the USMC and I had to become a SME on Marine marksmanship so I spent some time on-base doing my thing.

Most of the enlisted men were too busy cleaning latrines or whatever enlisted men do all drat day so I ended up having dinner with one of the captains in charge of some ... idk, whatever, it was a long time ago.

AAAAnnnnyway he was pretty interesting and apparently one of those weird overachievers like the Miss America winners who are also Biochemistry PhD candidates at Stanford or whatever and was like 25 or something and already a Captain somehow and very earnest about everything.

At some point he mentioned he got an interesting section of recruits from very wealthy families who thought the Marines would be a great step into management and the World Of Business because of some Harvard Business School thing from decades ago.

I kind of made a joke about how it must be hard to get them to do all that basic training poo poo and he got thoughtful for a minute and said "if there's one thing this job has taught me it's that the hardest thing you've ever done is the hardest thing you've ever done, whether that's mowing a lawn or burying your mother" and that's really stuck with me for a long time.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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other takeaways: if you're gonna take a marksmanship test, do it really tired, like stay up til 3am the night before

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

rotor posted:

other takeaways: if you're gonna take a marksmanship test, do it really tired, like stay up til 3am the night before

so that you're more tired and less high-strung/stressed?

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

rotor posted:

other takeaways: if you're gonna take a marksmanship test, do it really tired, like stay up til 3am the night before

You shot JFK, didn't you?

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

rotor posted:

other takeaways: if you're gonna take a marksmanship test, do it really tired, like stay up til 3am the night before

or smoke a small weed beforehand don't actually do this even though it would help a bit lol

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
Please do not operate any machinery with the potential to cause significant harm to self or others while under the influence of intoxicants, though?

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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prefect posted:

so that you're more tired and less high-strung/stressed?

yeah that was the advice i got and it seemed to work so


Schadenboner posted:

You shot JFK, didn't you?

oh like i'd just blurt it out and tell you :rolleyes:

Cold on a Cob posted:

or smoke a small weed beforehand don't actually do this even though it would help a bit lol

Normally id say yeah but maybe don't get baked and shoot guns on a range with hundreds of other people

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
i swear i read somewhere that some biathlon competitor got their medal taken away because they competed under the influence of thc but i can't find it now

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
maybe it was a different drug and i'm conflating it with ross rebagliati

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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Cold on a Cob posted:

i swear i read somewhere that some biathlon competitor got their medal taken away because they competed under the influence of thc but i can't find it now

yeah but those guys just shootin tiny mousefart .22s

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

rotor posted:

yeah but those guys just shootin tiny mousefart .22s

yeah, true

hm

poo poo someone call the ioc i think we've just stumbled on a way to get viewership up on the witner olympics

rotor
Jun 11, 2001
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Cold on a Cob posted:

yeah, true

hm

poo poo someone call the ioc i think we've just stumbled on a way to get viewership up on the witner olympics



"Klas Lestander from Sweden became the world's first Olympic champion in Biathlon at the 1960 Olympics. Biathletes at that time used high-power centerfire rifles, normally in caliber 7.62 mm.
Soldiers in the U.S. Army 5th Infantry Regiment during a fullbore biathlon competition in Alaska December 2014.

From 1958 to 1965, only highpower centerfire cartridges (such as the .30-06 and 7.62 NATO) were used in international biathlon competitions."

now THIS is what i'm talkin about

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

rotor posted:

I kind of made a joke about how it must be hard to get them to do all that basic training poo poo and he got thoughtful for a minute and said "if there's one thing this job has taught me it's that the hardest thing you've ever done is the hardest thing you've ever done, whether that's mowing a lawn or burying your mother" and that's really stuck with me for a long time.
food for fuckin thought

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
is it food for thought?

it sounds trite

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