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fsif posted:Losing track of all the mcmagic prop bets. I'm gonna have like 12 different avatars.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:15
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If you hire Adam Gase, you’re tanking - no matter what your intentions are
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Aug 29, 2019 15:18
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Amy Pole Her posted:If you hire Adam Gase, you’re tanking - no matter what your intentions are I should dig up your quotes about Gase when the Dolphins went 10-6 his first year lol.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:22
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It's a bad bet because they probably will get a fools gold 8-10 win season this year. Gase is a cancer that doesn't kill instantly
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Aug 29, 2019 15:23
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Raku posted:It's a bad bet because they probably will get a fools gold 8-10 win season this year. Gase is a cancer that doesn't kill instantly When you have a 22 year old franchise QB, it's not fools gold. Sam is gonna make Gase look good even if he isn't.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:24
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Yeah, he went 10-6. And since then he torpedoed the team much like he’s going to do to the Jets. It’s called working with the information you have - and you’ve got 3 extra years of it. That retort was literally backing up my point lol you’re trying to defy a very real pattern Adam Gase establishes.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:25
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Amy Pole Her posted:Yeah, he went 10-6. And since then he torpedoed the team much like he’s going to do to the Jets. It’s called working with the information you have - and you’ve got 3 extra years of it. I don't think Gase is a good coach but the idea that he alone is the reason the dolphins tanked is pretty silly. The 17 and 18 dolphins didn't underachieve.... They just weren't very good.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:27
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I can understand the Jets being willing to trade a third for Clowney but not for a 1 year rental. The Jets aren’t winning the Super Bowl this year with or without Clowney (I’m pretty sure) so you’re trading a 3rd rounder for a wildcard spot?
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Aug 29, 2019 15:27
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TheBizzness posted:I can understand the Jets being willing to trade a third for Clowney but not for a 1 year rental. I would trade a 3rd for a wild card spot every loving day of the week.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:28
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mcmagic posted:When you have a 22 year old franchise QB, it's not fools gold. Sam is gonna make Gase look good even if he isn't. this seems...premature
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Aug 29, 2019 15:28
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The dolphins were more talented last year than the jets are this year
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Aug 29, 2019 15:28
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He's been a head coach once. He might have changed, learned something, grown as a coach and person. I know that what he's actually done is take a bunch of cocaine and bought a ton of dolphin unfriendly tuna, but it remains theoretically possible he's changed
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Aug 29, 2019 15:29
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Metapod posted:The dolphins were more talented last year than the jets are this year lol
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Aug 29, 2019 15:30
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mcmagic posted:I don't think Gase is a good coach but the idea that he alone is the reason the dolphins tanked is pretty silly. The 17 and 18 dolphins didn't underachieve.... They just weren't very good. He was a very very large reason. Pretending it was entirely the Dolphins is ignorance of the situation, but at this point we both know any evidence i submit you’ll handwave it away. Guess we’ll see.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:32
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Amy Pole Her posted:He was a very very large reason. Pretending it was entirely the Dolphins is ignorance of the situation, but at this point we both know any evidence i submit you’ll handwave it away. I'm not saying he did a good job but it's not like he's Mike Tolmin where his teams had elite talent all over the field and underachieved year after year. He had middling talent and got middling results...
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Aug 29, 2019 15:35
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I dunno. The Dolphins haven't exactly shed five all pros, and people are confident they'll struggle to win two games. It's never been a great squad.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:35
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Thinking about it, everything that people are making GBS threads on Gase for is actually more true of Mike Tomlin than it is about Gase lol. Mike Tomlin sucks.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:47
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The 17 and 18 Dolphins had lousy to mediocre play at the most important position and overall declining rosters. Gase or not, those teams were never going to make any noise. mcmagic posted:I would trade a 3rd for a wild card spot every loving day of the week. That seems a bit like mortgaging the future for a round one exit. Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Aug 29, 2019 15:55
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mcmagic posted:Thinking about it, everything that people are making GBS threads on Gase for is actually more true of Mike Tomlin than it is about Gase lol. Mike Tomlin sucks. 
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Aug 29, 2019 15:55
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Idgi?
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Aug 29, 2019 15:58
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:The 17 and 18 Dolphins had lousy to mediocre play at the most important position and overall declining rosters. Gase or not, those teams were never going to make any noise. Y’all are straight up forgetting Gase has a lot of input on players I’m not putting all the blame on Gase obviously - we had tons of poo poo players. But we didn’t improve, and we vastly got worse directly as a result of Gase. They’ll go 9-7
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Aug 29, 2019 16:01
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Ehud posted:this seems...premature I was going to make a snarky joke about how the only way you can accurately judge a rookie quarterback is from three of their final four games, but I just looked up his stats in these games and I'm even more confused about the national hype around Darnold.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:03
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:The 17 and 18 Dolphins had lousy to mediocre play at the most important position and overall declining rosters. Gase or not, those teams were never going to make any noise. The idea that a 3rd round pick is the Jets future is pretty dubious.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:03
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tarbrush posted:Idgi? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
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Aug 29, 2019 16:05
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fsif posted:I was going to make a snarky joke about how the only way you can accurately judge a rookie quarterback is from three of their final four games, but I just looked up his stats in these games and I'm even more confused about the national hype around Darnold. Actually his completion % improved quite a bit and he only threw 1 pick. Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Aug 29, 2019 16:11
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mcmagic posted:Thinking about it, everything that people are making GBS threads on Gase for is actually more true of Mike Tomlin than it is about Gase lol. Mike Tomlin sucks. Mike Tomlin has a .654 win record in the regular season (125 - 55 - 1), a .533 record in the postseason (8 - 7), and has been to the super bowl twice with one super bowl win. Gase, who has lost his only postseason game as a coach and is 25-23 (.479) in the regular season isn't even in the same galaxy. Gase may well be a better coach than his record indicates, I didn't love those Dolphin rosters either, but he's got an extremely long way to go before he even approaches Tomlin's level as a head coach. In any case all this back and forth is pointless, the season begins in exactly one week! Holy poo poo! It'll be put up or shut up time for both mcmagic and Gase. BTW even the Jets beat writer for the Athletic wrote that the team wasn't deep anywhere except punter (where they have two, lol) which is something mcmagic was trying to argue the other day. It's still a roster that needs a good amount of work Play fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Aug 29, 2019 16:15
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I hate this team. tldr: the Texans want Tunsil for Clowney. We're actually considering dealing Tunsil, but not 1 for 1 because the contract situations are so lopsided. But we might deal Tunsil for a Clowney rental + draft picks https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article234503077.html quote:The Miami Dolphins trade talks with the Houston Texans for defensive end Jadeveon Clowney have prominently included the idea of the Dolphins improving their defensive front while the Texans have been pushing for a way to improve their offensive front.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:16
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Ha-ha.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:17
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fsif posted:I was going to make a snarky joke about how the only way you can accurately judge a rookie quarterback is from three of their final four games, but I just looked up his stats in these games and I'm even more confused about the national hype around Darnold. ...he was one of the best QBs in the NFL over the last quarter of the season.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:17
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Play posted:Mike Tomlin has a .654 win record in the regular season (125 - 55 - 1), a .533 record in the postseason (8 - 7), and has been to the super bowl twice with one super bowl win. Gase, who has lost his only postseason game as a coach and is 25-23 (.479) in the regular season isn't even in the same galaxy. Gase may well be a better coach than his record indicates, I didn't love those Dolphin rosters either, but he's got an extremely long way to go before he even approaches Tomlin's level as a head coach. I think Tomlin is one of the worst coaches in the NFL and does less with more than pretty much any other coach in the NFL so me saying he's worse than Gase isn't really me pumping Gase. Get back to me when Gase pisses away season after season with hall of fame talent all over the field.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:18
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Play posted:Mike Tomlin has a .654 win record in the regular season (125 - 55 - 1), a .533 record in the postseason (8 - 7), and has been to the super bowl twice with one super bowl win. Gase, who has lost his only postseason game as a coach and is 25-23 (.479) in the regular season isn't even in the same galaxy. Gase may well be a better coach than his record indicates, I didn't love those Dolphin rosters either, but he's got an extremely long way to go before he even approaches Tomlin's level as a head coach. Mike Tomlin has some serious flaws though that he's never been able to fix. His teams always come out flat against underwhelming opponents, especially on the road, and he has consistently failed to deal with the tension and drama caused by their franchise QB and it has literally cost them star players. He's accomplished much more than Gase probably ever well, but so much of that is just being in a well run organization and having a legit QB. If you stuck John Fox on the Steelers during Tomlin's reign do you think the results would be much different? Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Aug 29, 2019 16:19
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Professor Funk posted:...he was one of the best QBs in the NFL over the last quarter of the season. The Dolphins and Bills fans in here are hilariously still burying their heads in the sand about how good Darnold is.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:23
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Ehud posted:I hate this team. Oh my god gently caress this teeeaaammmmmm
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Aug 29, 2019 16:23
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mcmagic posted:The Dolphins and Bills fans in here are hilariously still burying their heads in the sand about how good Darnold is. I get that it's promising, but it's still a pretty small sample size to really be hanging your hat on, just yet.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:24
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how many good games did brock osweiler have and how many good games has darnold had so far
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Aug 29, 2019 16:26
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evilweasel posted:how many good games did brock osweiler have and how many good games has darnold had so far LOL
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Aug 29, 2019 16:26
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I am super interested to see how both Darnold and Allen do when they start getting pass rush in their face come the regular season. Looking pretty in the preseason means jack poo poo for both teams considering both have untested OL units at the moment. I want to see what happens when Darnold gets pressure in his face - does he struggle once more under pressure or does he flourish? Will Allen extend plays and make something happen or try and play hero ball, throw off platform across his body and give up easy INTs? I suspect the answer to both will be the latter but I'm really getting excited to see.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:33
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:He's accomplished much more than Gase probably ever well, but so much of that is just being in a well run organization and having a legit QB. If you stuck John Fox on the Steelers during Tomlin's reign do you think the results would be much different? I do, actually. I think they'd be very different. It's easy as gently caress to point out "oh look at those good players that must mean he does so little" but part of the reason those players are so good is because of how much he does. It's just ignorance talking when people think they actually know the split there, honestly. A huge part of the reason it's a well-run organization is because of him, to say it's a well run organization and he just benefits from that but has no part in it is just straight nonsense man
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mcmagic posted:LOL brock went 5-2 and beat the patriots in his first year starting small sample sizes are a bitch, darnold could be good (i have no opinion one way or the other besides a profound skepticism of the jets) but when people say "good in the last quarter of the season" i hear "not good" evilweasel fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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