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I think all of us film nerds talking in 2019 on a bulletin board named after a fairly obscure 80s Italian love-letter to cinema tend to forget how little the general public actually engages with anything but the most popular of media. Like, it's easy to default to Friends and The Office if you have no interest in exploring anything more nuanced than background TV.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:07
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For those that signed up for the 3 year Disney+ sub, how long did the offer take to show up after signing up for the d23 club?
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Aug 29, 2019 17:27
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Enos Cabell posted:For those that signed up for the 3 year Disney+ sub, how long did the offer take to show up after signing up for the d23 club? It was about 3 hours for me.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:40
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feedmyleg posted:I think all of us film nerds talking in 2019 on a bulletin board named after a fairly obscure 80s Italian love-letter to cinema tend to forget how little the general public actually engages with anything but the most popular of media. Like, it's easy to default to Friends and The Office if you have no interest in exploring anything more nuanced than background TV. My friends force me to watch Letterkenny, I force them to watch Fellini's Nights of Cabiria. That's called being a good friend.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:58
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feedmyleg posted:I think all of us film nerds talking in 2019 on a bulletin board named after a fairly obscure 80s Italian love-letter to cinema tend to forget how little the general public actually engages with anything but the most popular of media. Like, it's easy to default to Friends and The Office if you have no interest in exploring anything more nuanced than background TV. There's also the fact that people like to "hang out" with familiar characters and settings even if the comedy isn't exactly on the cutting edge, and even people as *sophisticated* as we are sometimes just want comfort TV that goes down smooth. There's nothing wrong with putting on background TV while you get ready for bed or do your homework or whatever. Not everything has to be The Americans all the time.
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Aug 29, 2019 22:35
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I find it so weird that people watch TV as background noise. I can see the reasoning behind it but it's so off-putting to me.
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Aug 29, 2019 22:50
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Human Tornada posted:There's also the fact that people like to "hang out" with familiar characters and settings even if the comedy isn't exactly on the cutting edge, and even people as *sophisticated* as we are sometimes just want comfort TV that goes down smooth. I dunno about background noise or w/e but having this kind of a parasocial relationship with made up people as an adult seems weird to me
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Aug 29, 2019 22:53
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DeimosRising posted:I dunno about background noise or w/e but having this kind of a parasocial relationship with made up people as an adult seems weird to me Which is why I put "hang out" in quotes, it's not like people think they're actual friends with Jim and Pam. Movies are described as "hangout movies" all the time and it's not weird, nor is it weird when books "transport" you to another world. Those Lord of the Rings movies are mad boring but I would imagine that a lot of the appeal of them is "visiting" Middle Earth for nine-plus hours. Just because The Office or Friends have mass appeal and offer simple pleasures doesn't mean the people who like them are childish or delusional.
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Aug 29, 2019 23:10
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Human Tornada posted:Which is why I put "hang out" in quotes, it's not like people think they're actual friends with Jim and Pam. Movies are described as "hangout movies" all the time and it's not weird, nor is it weird when books "transport" you to another world. Those Lord of the Rings movies are mad boring but I would imagine that a lot of the appeal of them is "visiting" Middle Earth for nine-plus hours. I mean, I think those shows suck but sure. That said, lots of people DO think they have real relationships with characters and there’s a whole body of research on parasocial breakups
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Aug 29, 2019 23:27
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punk rebel ecks posted:I find it so weird that people watch TV as background noise. I can see the reasoning behind it but it's so off-putting to me. Seems pretty straightforward, they don't want to be alone with only their thoughts.
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Aug 29, 2019 23:38
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sponges posted:Friends is pretty homophobic by today’s standards. I’m surprised people even bother with it. It’s a relic. You're actually right. I remember loving the show when it was first on, and it was super progressive for the 90s. I remember the lesbian wedding episode was banned from stations all across the country. And I gladly watched it in reruns for years. But a few years ago I was watching it on reruns (before it showed up on Netflix) and I noticed that it had a ton of gay jokes that really weren't holding up. So I thought i would do a fun experiment, and I wanted to start a blog that documented every gay joke on Friends. As it turned out, I burned out very quickly. It's much more than just a couple times of Chandler being worried that people think he's gay. Pretty much every single episode has at least a couple of line where the punchline is just, "gay! hahahaha!" Very few of them are truly bad, like I said, they were progressive for the time. They just don't hold up well 20 years later. At least until they introduce Chandler's dad, at which point the jokes are indeed straight up transphobic. Really, Friends was always a show that relied more on the chemistry of the cast than on the sharpness of the jokes.
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Aug 30, 2019 02:56
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I remember watching Chasing Amy for the first time a few months ago and was shocked that it was once seen as cutting edge progressive.
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Aug 30, 2019 03:07
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punk rebel ecks posted:I remember watching Chasing Amy for the first time a few months ago and was shocked that it was once seen as cutting edge progressive. Americans like to pat themselves on the back for leading the way in stuff like race relations and the like, but it literally wasn't until 1996 that a very slim majority of Americans supported interracial marriage, for example, despite Loving v. Virginia being decided in 1967. Roughly 20 percent of Americans still believe that miscegenation is morally wrong.
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Aug 30, 2019 03:15
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Nihonniboku posted:You're actually right. I remember loving the show when it was first on, and it was super progressive for the 90s. I remember the lesbian wedding episode was banned from stations all across the country. And I gladly watched it in reruns for years. i imagine a lot of the material was progressive views being introduced to a broadly hostile society and the humor, even if base, reflects americas discomfort and hostility toward LGTBQ issues. will and grace was probably the same way.
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Aug 30, 2019 03:22
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Ammanas posted:i imagine a lot of the material was progressive views being introduced to a broadly hostile society and the humor, even if base, reflects americas discomfort and hostility toward LGTBQ issues. will and grace was probably the same way. You're right, the older Will & Grace is much the same way.
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Aug 30, 2019 03:27
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Timby posted:Americans like to pat themselves on the back for leading the way in stuff like race relations and the like, but it literally wasn't until 1996 that a very slim majority of Americans supported interracial marriage, for example, despite Loving v. Virginia being decided in 1967. Roughly 20 percent of Americans still believe that miscegenation is morally wrong.  It's crazy to think that when I was born the majority of people disapproved interracial marriage.
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Aug 30, 2019 04:42
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Timby posted:Americans like to pat themselves on the back for leading the way in stuff like race relations and the like, but it literally wasn't until 1996 that a very slim majority of Americans supported interracial marriage, for example, despite Loving v. Virginia being decided in 1967. Roughly 20 percent of Americans still believe that miscegenation is morally wrong. I'm on season 5 out of 6 of In The Heat of the Night. The show started in 1988, and there were plenty of times where I thought "that poo poo was still going on right before I was born!?" And then there's things where I think "well that hasn't changed at all." Usually followed with "that's only gotten worse since Trump." 
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Aug 30, 2019 05:02
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Watched Dave Chappelle's new special. I agree with veni veni veni. A lot of the stuff was funny, including some of the more edgy jokes. I really enjoyed the jokes about Michael Jackson (which is odd since that seems to be getting to most traction of controversy?). However I rolled my eyes at many of the LGBTQ jokes. Most notably the I can't say "fag" but I can say "friend of the family" joke with the burn punchline. I will admit I laughed at most of the LGBT car joke. I did like how Dave pointed out that the only difference between poor whites and blacks is that poor whites feel that it shouldn't be happening to them.
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Aug 30, 2019 07:30
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I think he gets some leeway because no matter how bad his material is, his delivery is excellent.
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Aug 30, 2019 15:34
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punk rebel ecks posted:I remember watching Chasing Amy for the first time a few months ago and was shocked that it was once seen as cutting edge progressive. Isn’t that a good thing? The moment people start forgetting or stop appreciating how far things have come is the moment backsliding becomes a danger. Just look at where we are now with race relations after 11 years of Fox News declaring that racism ended when Obama was elected. Or the resurgence of hate groups after so many years of groups like the KKK being treated like a punchline and clowns ignoring just how insidious and dangerous they were for so long.
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Aug 30, 2019 16:10
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sponges posted:I think he gets some leeway because no matter how bad his material is, his delivery is excellent. Absolutely. There were a few times I laughed, paused, then thought about the lovely implications of a joke.
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Aug 30, 2019 16:21
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Isn’t that a good thing? The moment people start forgetting or stop appreciating how far things have come is the moment backsliding becomes a danger. Just look at where we are now with race relations after 11 years of Fox News declaring that racism ended when Obama was elected. Don't forget the Supreme Court saying that racism was over in the Shelby County decision that gutted the VRA.
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Aug 30, 2019 16:57
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Isn’t that a good thing? The moment people start forgetting or stop appreciating how far things have come is the moment backsliding becomes a danger. Just look at where we are now with race relations after 11 years of Fox News declaring that racism ended when Obama was elected. To be fair there are people who still insist that racism is over. I admit that it is good that things are progressing Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Or the resurgence of hate groups after so many years of groups like the KKK being treated like a punchline and clowns ignoring just how insidious and dangerous they were for so long. Is this a dig at Django Unchained?
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Aug 30, 2019 17:11
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punk rebel ecks posted:To be fair there are people who still insist that racism is over. I admit that it is good that things are progressing There are plenty of digs at the KKK way outside of Tarantino. The Blues Brothers treated them like a joke and that was like around forty years ago.
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Aug 30, 2019 17:33
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I don't see what's wrong with making fun of white supremacists.
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Aug 30, 2019 17:43
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Jose Oquendo posted:I should have specified, a cheap plan to watch network TV stuff. I had a discounted DTV Now plan and I canceled it a few months ago because I barely used it. Of course everyone's needs are different but PS Vue isn't for me. If you get good tv reception you could get a OTA TiVo and just record the shows you want to watch.
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Aug 30, 2019 18:55
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mikemil828 posted:If you get good tv reception you could get a OTA TiVo and just record the shows you want to watch. Sadly I live in the bottom of a mountainous region so I'm hosed every which way.
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Aug 30, 2019 19:00
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punk rebel ecks posted:I don't see what's wrong with making fun of white supremacists.  But I guess making white supremacists/KKK and Nazis, things that still exist, into impotent comic figures while they're still killing people and burning synagogues is maybe not that great of an idea. e: although that clip of the guy torching himself with the backdraft while attempting to burn that synagogue is acceptable for a laugh because he did it to himself. Shame about him not dying or being cripplingly burnt
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Aug 30, 2019 19:10
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Well this was a timely article to show up today: https://news.avclub.com/read-this-a-blistering-argument-for-friends-awfulness-1837745982
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Aug 30, 2019 20:24
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No one ever went broke selling ads on pages where very popular things are declared to actually be bad.
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Aug 30, 2019 20:35
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Seriously. An editor went out into a newsroom and said, "give me your hottest take" and some guy stood up and said that the show that's been off the air for a decade and a half is actually bad
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Aug 30, 2019 20:40
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Alec Eiffel posted:Seriously. An editor went out into a newsroom and said, "give me your hottest take" and some guy stood up and said that the show that's been off the air for a decade and a half is actually bad Enh, along with The Office, Friends has gotten a huge resurgence in popularity thanks to Netflix. A whole new generation of people are getting into the show who were barely toddlers when the show went off the air. When it was announced that Friends would be leaving Netflix for Warner Bro's new streaming service, people flipped out.
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Aug 30, 2019 20:48
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Nihonniboku posted:Enh, along with The Office, Friends has gotten a huge resurgence in popularity thanks to Netflix. A whole new generation of people are getting into the show who were barely toddlers when the show went off the air. When it was announced that Friends would be leaving Netflix for Warner Bro's new streaming service, people flipped out. Yeah, all my 20-something students are obsessed with The Office and Friends.
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Aug 30, 2019 21:44
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I get it. I am a substitute teacher and work at a video store. Kids have Friends shirts galore. And people bought up all of our The Office seasons in fear of The Great Purge. That doesn't mean that that dumbass article wasn't meant to be anything other than spicy hot clickbait.
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Aug 30, 2019 22:09
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Alec Eiffel posted:I am a substitute teacher and work at a video store.
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Aug 30, 2019 23:19
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I liked the Office but I have the same problem with it that I did with Office Space. I worked at Best Buy at the time and everyone was like "Oh I relate to this so much!". No you don't. Retail life is a different thing than office life. Both are layers of Hell, but different layers.
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Aug 30, 2019 23:38
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Office Space has held up a lot better for me than The Office. maybe that's not fair because it's a 2 hour movie and not like, 8 season of TV but I really just find the Office lame and annoying when I try to watch it now. There's like 10 bad jokes for every good one and the sheer amount of them is exhausting.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:59
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People relate to Office Space because it's a portrayal of how most people feel about their day jobs. Wasting HUGE chunks of your life doing pointless mundane tasks with no reward just to survive. Why not just say "gently caress it!" and not worry about everything? The end of the movie is also has a pretty good message because while you likely dislike your job...almost everybody else feels the same way about theirs. Unless we live in a Yangist utopia, if you want to live you have to work. While there is no perfect job out there, it is best to find a job that you can at least tolerate and make the best of.
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Aug 31, 2019 02:04
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I'm about to binge Carnival Row. I hear it's not that great though. We'll see how far I can muster. Wish me luck.
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A new season of Great British Bake-off/Great British Baking Show is up on Netflix  E: new episodes weekly?! Goddamn it. LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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