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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I really liked Mariner's Apartment Complex, but I think it was mostly because it had the same chord structure as the Brokeback Mountain theme, and now the two songs have become merged in my head.

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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

i still think venice bitch is too long as a song, but i think "they're all the same song" is not really a fair complaint. I get that they all have a similar vibe but gently caress it i love you is very different from Doin' Time which is different from hope is a wonderful thing which is different from Love Song. I've loved Lana since Born to Die though, so i might just be predisposed to liking her music. I don't think NFR is better than Ultraviolence or Born to Die but it's probably the best since Ultraviolence, or maybe on par with Honeymoon.

Honestly, if you aren't the biggest fan of this album you might give Born to Die a try. Most people just know Video Games and Blue Jeans but the rest of the album is infused with hip-hop in a way that very clearly inspired artists like Lorde and Billie Eilish, even if that element of LDR's music has kinda gone to the wayside as of late. I like Ultraviolence better because I think it's the best expression of what she is going for but if you don't like this new album I don't think you're gonna magically change your mind listening to "Norman loving Rockwell, but better"

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
I mean, maybe, but Doin' Time is a bad example since it's a cover.

Was surprised Cinnamon Girl wasn't also a cover...

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way
I don't mind an album of songs that kinda blend with one another, especially for someone with a very specific vibe like LDR's.

I do, however, think it's overgeneralizing to say Ultraviolence and Born to Die sound the same song-to-song. There's a lot of variety and really stunning poo poo in there. It's cohesive, but not same-y.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
New Lana album is a masterpiece

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002
The only one that is kinda one note is Honeymoon, but it’s one note in a hypnotic way and it starts to hum by the time you get to Freak.

Solomon Gumball
Jul 24, 2019
Honeymoon aged really well on me, I think it's my favorite second album of hers. She's said that was her "jazz album". I don't like Lana's shift into the early-mid 70s alt and a lot of these songs have been teased in snippets or out in full form (Next American Record leaked before Lust for Life the single). She said she's already writing her next album and it'll be released next year. Wish Antonoff kept the more trappier version of Cinnamon but it's still my favourite so far.

I think it'll fall well into her discography but got overhyped by the title alone. I definitely like it more than Lust For Life.


New Charli soon, really being spoiled by a lot of my pop favorites. I think Kim Petras's album was the strongest out of my favorites so far this year.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Solomon Gumball posted:

Honeymoon aged really well on me, I think it's my favorite second album of hers.

I think I like it the best but I like them all. NFR is really great.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

More new Charli. 2 weeks to album release. Still great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQQKZ8z98gk

Solomon Gumball
Jul 24, 2019
Not really liking it as much as the others but I have this bias against HAIM after all that loving hype they got when they came onto the scene. I'd put this around the Blame It On Your Love Lizzo version which wasn't my deal after the slower one felt a bit truer. Gone and Cross You Out are the two standouts so far.

Surprised too because it's an AG Cook one and I usually like his work with Charli.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
I got tickets to see Charli xcx at a small venue in September and I’m pretty stoked for it

Telephones
Apr 28, 2013
loving the new posty

Slandible
Apr 30, 2008

I know nothing of Meg & Dia, but this single is straight fire. This baseline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHPnMUev0c0

Solomon Gumball
Jul 24, 2019

The REAL Goobusters posted:

I got tickets to see Charli xcx at a small venue in September and I’m pretty stoked for it


You're in for a treat, I went to one of her Pop 2 afterparties and it was fairly small (packed) and great. Dorian Electra opened. Charli thrives in small venues.

Slandible
Apr 30, 2008

Solomon Gumball posted:

You're in for a treat, I went to one of her Pop 2 afterparties and it was fairly small (packed) and great. Dorian Electra opened. Charli thrives in small venues.

I've seen her in a smaller venue and it was a loving party, and I've seen her in a large venue where she seemed bored.

I second she is far better in smaller settings. Much more intimate and wild.

E》 When she co headlined with Bleachers at bigger venues a few years back, she canceled the rest of her part of the tour a few days later. She looked visual unhappy playing in large places.

Slandible fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Sep 2, 2019

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Red Velvet released their latest comeback a week ago, it's more conservative than Zimzalabim, but still lots of fun (I think). It still has that "all over the place" feel to it, but the high production value keeps it all together, also the bass and drums are funky at times I like it. Still, it's kpop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHS9E6JFja8

Sudbina
Mar 17, 2009
I think I finally fell in love with Charli XCX and her music. <3

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

i think it's really hilarious that after Lil Nas X finally dropped down from number one pretty much every song that it kept from getting there is getting its one week in the sun. First it was Bad Guy, then Señorita, now Truth Hurts

truly Lil Nas X is a gracious and benevolent ruler of Pop Music

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



Probably has more to do with Marketing Depts finally understanding how the metrics work and the power of releasing multiple remixes and videos in support of tracks.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

^burtle posted:

Probably has more to do with Marketing Depts finally understanding how the metrics work and the power of releasing multiple remixes and videos in support of tracks.

it's sort of weird that those remixes count as the same song, IMO. like all of a sudden after weeks of just being the normal album cut, Bad Guy had a (feat. Justin Bieber) tacked onto it despite the songs being different. I kinda understand why this is (and obviously LNX and Billie have used it to their advantage, and Lizzo has now followed suit) but it is still really weird.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

DC Murderverse posted:

it's sort of weird that those remixes count as the same song, IMO. like all of a sudden after weeks of just being the normal album cut, Bad Guy had a (feat. Justin Bieber) tacked onto it despite the songs being different.

This isn't new tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjx9oSJDAVQ

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"


wait was the version of this without Ja Rule ever popular? I thought it was an Ignition situation where only the remix got any play

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I didn’t even know there was a version with Ja Rule lol

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

DC Murderverse posted:

wait was the version of this without Ja Rule ever popular? I thought it was an Ignition situation where only the remix got any play

It wasn't anywhere near as big a hit but yeah they were both released as singles and counted as the same song for Billboard purposes. Wiki says that directly led to a change in Billboard rules so that the two Ain't It Funny releases counted as different songs when they put out the remix the next year.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



I have Born to Die live sets, consider Ultraviolence an all time top album and smoked pot during a meteor shower with Honeymoon but for the life of me I cannot understand where this level of praise for NFR is coming from. People calling it the best album of the year? A masterpiece? It sounds good and fine, a more polished version of the back end of Lust for Life sound, but really just more of the same.

Maybe the problem is that I keep wanting bangers and songs that stick with me rather than just an enjoyable overall project. Just trying to find the password to let me hear what everyone else is hearing I suppose.

^burtle fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Sep 4, 2019

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back

Escobarbarian posted:

I didn’t even know there was a version with Ja Rule lol

I'm pretty sure I never heard the song WITHOUT Ja Rule. Weird.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

^burtle posted:

I have Born to Die live sets, consider Ultraviolence an all time top album and smoked pot during a meteor shower with Honeymoon but for the life of me I cannot understand where this level of praise for NFR is coming from. People calling it the best album of the year? A masterpiece? It sounds good and fine, a more polished version of the back end of Lust for Life sound, but really just more of the same.

Maybe the problem is that I keep wanting bangers and songs that stick with me rather than just an enjoyable overall project. Just trying to find the password to let me hear what everyone else is hearing I suppose.

This is me but with every Lana project ever. I never understood the hype

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Double single!

https://mobile.twitter.com/camila_cabello/status/1169278971776774145

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

^burtle posted:

I have Born to Die live sets, consider Ultraviolence an all time top album and smoked pot during a meteor shower with Honeymoon but for the life of me I cannot understand where this level of praise for NFR is coming from. People calling it the best album of the year? A masterpiece? It sounds good and fine, a more polished version of the back end of Lust for Life sound, but really just more of the same.

Maybe the problem is that I keep wanting bangers and songs that stick with me rather than just an enjoyable overall project. Just trying to find the password to let me hear what everyone else is hearing I suppose.
I low key reckon its because 70s soft rock is coming back in vogue. fleetwood mac is being played everything. or maybe thats just my brain finally aging into them.

i'm from the southern hemi so i don't SAY THIS LIGHTLY but lorde isn't as good at hasley at what they both do. which is that chill-glo goblin rasp pop. maybe lorde popularized it. tennis court is still on my rotation and royals was huge. but i think all her massive attention did her in a bit. especially with bowie saying shes the future or something like that. like poo poo. so she's safe and stilted with her music. hasley has so much filler but at least she's prolific so you'll get some pop gems.

hasley appreciation thread time (at least for me, don't judge plz its my guilty pleasure):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-eYbUVZedY
I first heard New Americana when fitting a suit for a friend's wedding. I really liked it:
It sounded super produced and focus grouped with a new voice. It felt sentimental and cheesy and dorky without shame. I really liked how it didn't try to be too coy or irony poisoned. "So we hold it down - till summer starts" meaningless astrology sugar. New Americana was the song Lorde was too cool to make. It was like somebody took her vocal fry and was like "you know what, your songs aren't basic enough" and I loved it. "high on legal marijuana" sounds trite but I like how vapid it sounds. Its like being raised by hippies. how do you rebel now? I have no idea, i was raised in a small conservative christian sect, just listening to pop music was rebelling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT2_F-1esPk
Frigging chainsmokers. I'm sorry, na I'm not. The Chainsmokers - Closer ft. Halsey So bad and so good. Its just hitting the right beats. "Play that Blink 182 song / that we beat to death in Tucson"" oh lordy! And the melody is like, poisonously sweet. Again, lorde would be way too cool to be on this song. Lorde has been charged to stand alone. Apart. Like Bowie. Ugh.
Like New Americana, on her first album Badlands comes Gasoline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRHNi3QfFlE. Gasoline has the quiet spill before the boom boom imagine-dragons drop. Again, its a bunch of sentiments which clash and contradict and really just cool together "are you deranged like me?" "pointing fingers cause you'll never take the blame like me?". I do like the refrain "All the people say / you can't wake up / this is not a dream / you are part of the machine / you are not a human being" cause hasley is 100% stuck in some record company hellscape world. I like this song for the same reason I like Nightmare. They both feel like Hasley is raging against the world. Lorde rages against individuals a la a Taylor Swift. This is a generalization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56WBK4ZK_cw Eastside with benny blanco and Khalid is also another Hasley banger I love. Its got this tch tch urgency to the beat which when coupled with the vague 1979 surburbian nostalgia makes me feel all fizzy and bittersweet. its lemon lime and bitters. man i love pop sometimes. its also cool because the music video is dope. its got their real names and dumb embarrassing memories of their youths. it feels very confessional and sincere.
I also like - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_dqfcvTZik - Nightmare because it feels like EMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSOcoDJYQg got real top 40 super fast. It also feels like if Lorde did this song she'd extend it in an art pop direction and it'd be fine but. Halsey just sounds shes having fun with it and keeps bouncing through the lines with these little explosions. Like evanescence! This song is always on my running playlist.

I know Hasley has some bigger hits I haven't mentioned and thats because I haven't really listened to them. I'm sure they are great. I'm sure most people find them palatable and middle of the road pop. Without Me looks like one of these. I don't hate Lorde's music. I just wish she'd start hooning stuff out and not be so inhibited by having to be shezus/the one. I don't know. Here is Lorde being adorable singing Paul Simon (now I got write a splurge post about PS oh my goodness): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J9g-O-06JU

Thoughts on the new Billie Eilish? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PZsSWwc9xA its about climate change. I like the little spokenish bit questioning if men are worth even saving. I wonder how climate change will propegate within top 40 pop music in the coming decade. it will be interesting to see how it appears. Surfs Up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75f5W6LgLM

Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Nov 12, 2019

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way
Not at all denying the wonderfulness of Halsey, but Lorde's second album was loving incredible from front to back and I'm stoked to see where she goes from there.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Toaster Beef posted:

Not at all denying the wonderfulness of Halsey, but Lorde's second album was loving incredible from front to back and I'm stoked to see where she goes from there.

She was INCREDIBLE live, one of my favorite concerts I have ever been to.


New Grimes is really loving good. Reminds me of purity ring

https://youtu.be/M9SGYBHY0qs

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Sep 5, 2019

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
I’m kinda not that into the new grimes, I thought her last single was actually better imo (and even then i wasn’t that into it either, weird! But I guess I like it more on hindsight).

The nu metal inspired sound was pretty fresh I thought

101
Oct 15, 2012


Vault Dweller

Lampsacus posted:

:words: about Halsey

I agree with the positive words about Halsey but at the same time

Toaster Beef posted:

Not at all denying the wonderfulness of Halsey, but Lorde's second album was loving incredible from front to back and I'm stoked to see where she goes from there.
:hmmyes:

Melodrama is an amazing album and I don't think Halsey is capable of reaching those heights.

Lampsacus posted:

Here is Lorde being adorable singing Paul Simon (now I got write a splurge post about PS oh my goodness)

I'd happily take a splurge post about Paul Simon. All I know is You Can Call Me Al


It was on her album. Which was also fantastic imo.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Melanie Martinez's 2nd album K-12 is finally out. It's not giving me as strong a first impression as Cry Baby did, but it's still cool. This is more stuff similar to Cry Baby, and I've loved that album for years, so I'm not complaining. It's got atmosphere I dig.

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Lampsacus posted:

I low key reckon its because 70s soft rock is coming back in vogue. fleetwood mac is being played everything. or maybe thats just my brain finally aging into them.

Yeah, I get the same impression. Also I'm surprised Lana's "sad girl on nostalgia trip"-shpiel is still going strong. It was pretty kitsch the first time around, now I'm just getting tired of Instagram-filter videos and 70s makeup.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
Hey halsey man all good and stuff but I just don’t get the comparison to Lorde they can both exist right? Like did you really like new Americana and then a pitchfork article called her a Lorde knockoff and you got angry at it? Who cares man

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Here is Melanies film she did for this album

https://youtu.be/2HtaIvb61Uk

Buller
Nov 6, 2010
New Grimes is good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9SGYBHY0qs

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Tove Lo featuring Kylie Minogue

https://youtu.be/81TXEICHH1E

Charli XCX featuring Clairo and Yaeji

https://youtu.be/8Zg3ZOn1pHc

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less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

DC Murderverse posted:

man it's been a while since Katy Perry has released a good song

and I'm still waiting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1do_4VgF7U

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