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IcePhoenix posted:I forgot to comment on this Assumption
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JollyBoyJohn posted:2 time TI winner Sebastien "7ckingmad" DebS laughs heartily as NA #1 Arteezy continues to never win a TI. Yes, that's because Ceb is really loving good, as are all the other players on OG. They're not just magically winning games, they're winning games because they're outplaying everyone. Also, rtz has plenty of good results lmao. Not winning TI doesn't mean a team isn't successful.
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Sep 4, 2019 16:27
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Assumption drat I was hoping for more drama I guess this will have to do https://www.instagram.com/p/B1_bOXgBCdA/ reddit OP posted:TLDR: we had a good time with the boys and achieved a lot, but TI still remains unconquered. VP roster is gonna change a lot this year. I (Solo) am going back to captain position and we will come back stronger than ever. No additional info yet but we have a path we want to follow, huge props to everyone who supports us through good and bad times.
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Sep 4, 2019 16:29
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Sampatrick posted:Yes, that's because Ceb is really loving good, as are all the other players on OG. They're not just magically winning games, they're winning games because they're outplaying everyone. sorry the only good results are winning valve events rtz confirmed scrub
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Sep 4, 2019 16:30
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IcePhoenix posted:sorry the only good results are winning valve events rtz confirmed scrub this but unironically
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Sep 4, 2019 16:32
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Fnatic seem poised to accomplish nothing outside of sea
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Sep 4, 2019 16:51
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Ceb is a good player and good teammate, but drat he should never write another blog ever again lmao
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Sep 4, 2019 16:57
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Ceb is a good player and good teammate, but drat he should never write another blog ever again lmao He should have stopped years ago or at least hire an editor. E: just a font editor at least
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Sep 4, 2019 17:02
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Knowlue posted:Fnatic seem poised to accomplish nothing outside of sea They just shoved together the ti8 Mineski and the ti9 Fnatic squads and then added 23savage because their carry always sucks. On paper, this is a good lineup. I'm not the biggest fan of Moon but he's still a good mid laner. This lineup will be good or bad exclusively dependant on if Icefrog buffs Iceiceice's hero pool.
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Sep 4, 2019 17:04
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IcePhoenix posted:making turbo only count for half a win this year made me Real Sad so I didn't play nearly as much as last year
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Sep 4, 2019 18:07
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There are exactly two classes of people in Turbo. People who are terrible at playing Dota or people who are grinding out their first 100 games to unlock ranked for their smurf.
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Sep 4, 2019 18:26
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turbo is how all the pros (the ones who cared, anyway) unlocked their bp jungle this year. just 5stacking and doing push strats pity anyone who ran into that. At least it'd be short!
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Sep 4, 2019 19:27
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Incoherence posted:I played a few Turbo matches because I had a bunch of the items that let you clear a half-completed challenge, and Turbo is the loving worst now (or maybe it always was). You basically either ban all the hard push heroes or hope you have more on your team than the other team, and hope your team doesn't draft awful lanes. Like, I thought ranked was bad, but turbo is a whole new world of awful players. Turbo is fun if you're in a party because at worst you can make sure at least two of your team are hard carries if need be. Also it's clowny and the game will end fast regardless. But good lord did I sure have a lot of game where we had like three supports and an offlaner and I'm sitting here just wishing I could get a single win so I can culling blade whatever awful hero I need to win with.
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Sep 4, 2019 19:33
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Knowlue posted:He should have stopped years ago or at least hire an editor. Would be wise. I imagine he'd be more eloquent in his native language though.
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Sep 4, 2019 19:42
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Not Al-Qaeda posted:resident leaker said midone to fnatic but thats wrong I said it was heavily implied, if I had a transcript of the conversation it would read as if MidOne was on Fnatic already. This was well before the after-party, and that shuffle had just started between the early and out teams. EG tried for Ice and it sounds like a SEA team tried for DJ. Getting the $$$ for Abed was the only way to save them. MidOne is out of Secret and taking a break. Mineski is in shambles apparently. Forev is creating some tier 1 Korean roster. Valve has given the Majors to.. MDL (China) DreamHack (Leipzig) EPICENTER PGL (Jakarta) ESL
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Sep 4, 2019 20:25
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mushi is the new pos5 on Keen, for some reason
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Sep 4, 2019 20:28
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No loving na tournaments again will actually be very upsetting to me
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Sep 4, 2019 20:29
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there is supposed to be a high-tier but non-DPC tournament coming to NA, for whatever small comfort that's worth
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Sep 4, 2019 20:30
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Yeah, Midas mode 2
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Sep 4, 2019 20:33
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yeah it's weird to me that they want to complain about the NA scene falling off the last couple years when they never run any events here
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Sep 4, 2019 20:33
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Reality Sinner posted:Yeah, Midas mode 2 nope. ESL dude said something was in the works https://twitter.com/theflyingdj/status/1165547761820979202?s=21
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Sep 4, 2019 20:37
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96 spacejam posted:I said it was heavily implied, if I had a transcript of the conversation it would read as if MidOne was on Fnatic already. This was well before the after-party, and that shuffle had just started between the early and out teams. WHO IS REPLACING MIDONE AND WHATS UP WITH NAVI
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Sep 4, 2019 20:43
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If NA gets nothing and the UK gets another ESL that would be crazy
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Sep 4, 2019 20:48
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it would be pretty funny if that guy thought that "T1" meant tier 1 when it is actually the name of Forev's team (which it is)
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Sep 4, 2019 21:04
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emdash posted:it would be pretty funny if that guy thought that "T1" meant tier 1 when it is actually the name of Forev's team (which it is) does it really surprise you though
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Sep 4, 2019 21:07
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Maybe forev can sign Faker and let him make some real money
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Sep 4, 2019 21:08
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I have it on good authority that ppd is going to start a BR team just to absorb the haters. It was heavily implied!
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Sep 4, 2019 21:12
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I’m really excited to watch the T1 team, if it’s good or bad idc. Just wanna see korean dota again
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Sep 4, 2019 21:15
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Zurreco posted:I have it on good authority that ppd is going to start a BR team just to absorb the haters. It was heavily implied! i have it on good authority that any ppd team immediately transforms into an NA team by force of how powerful his spirit is
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Sep 4, 2019 21:23
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Sampatrick posted:Yes, that's because Ceb is really loving good, as are all the other players on OG. They're not just magically winning games, they're winning games because they're outplaying everyone. Thing is, OG faced a lot of teams with players that were individually better. Most of their "outplays" throughout the tournament were because of their insane teamwork and trust. Hell, look at Infamous. They are by no means the best individual players in the world, but they clowned on several teams because they play as a cohesive unit for the most part. Not to say talent in individual roles isn't important, but it's been a long time since DotA was "win lanes, win games".
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Nasgate posted:Thing is, OG faced a lot of teams with players that were individually better. Most of their "outplays" throughout the tournament were because of their insane teamwork and trust. Hell, look at Infamous. They are by no means the best individual players in the world, but they clowned on several teams because they play as a cohesive unit for the most part. This is the most exaggerated poo poo on the planet. OG has insanely talented players on every single role. Laning isn't the entirety of player skill - but even if it was, every member of OG did a fantastic job in lane. The players on OG aren't worse than any other players in the world. You don't win TI back to back with players that aren't world class in every position. Topson went even with Sumail and Maybe in lane and convincingly beat w33 and CCnC. I'm just confused about who you can possibly talk about when you say that OG faced teams with players that were individually better than the players on OG. Also, every member of Infamous is pretty god drat fantastic. I'm not sure where you're getting the impression that they aren't individually skilled - I know they aren't familiar names, but they played fantastic Dota. It honestly just sounds to me like you're giving a huge amount of respect to well known players for being super technically skilled but not doing the same to any new players who play super well. EDIT: If you're just talking about laning as the only form of skill then I can sorta see where you're coming from even if I disagree with you but player skill is way more than just laning. Everybody on OG has insanely good game sense, their itemization is almost always perfect, and every one of them will usually make some bananas play in every game. I'm not sure what a high skilled player looks like if not that. shades of blue fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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Sep 4, 2019 21:39
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You can make a solid argument that 3 of the 5 players on OG are the best in the world at their positions as individuals and the drop off for the other two is not exactly huge
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Vando posted:You can make a solid argument that 3 of the 5 players on OG are the best in the world at their positions as individuals and the drop off for the other two is not exactly huge You could probably make that argument for everyone but ceb
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Sep 4, 2019 22:08
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Sampatrick posted:This is the most exaggerated poo poo on the planet. OG has insanely talented players on every single role. Laning isn't the entirety of player skill - but even if it was, every member of OG did a fantastic job in lane. The players on OG aren't worse than any other players in the world. You don't win TI back to back with players that aren't world class in every position. Topson went even with Sumail and Maybe in lane and convincingly beat w33 and CCnC. I'm just confused about who you can possibly talk about when you say that OG faced teams with players that were individually better than the players on OG. I hate OG a lot but was with you until you mentioned ccnc in the same breath as good players and now i have to question everything else about your post
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Sep 4, 2019 22:16
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:I hate OG a lot but was with you until you mentioned ccnc in the same breath as good players and now i have to question everything else about your post I know we all love to meme and stuff but CCnC is a legitimately good player. He’s not Sumail but he’s good and his improvement from the last TI was massive.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:23
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IcePhoenix posted:You could probably make that argument for everyone but ceb Why not Ceb? Like I don't understand this. When he plays a flashy, teamfight hero he always delivers. His itemization is always fantastic. He rarely gets caught out. I get that Ceb used to not be the best but like his individual play is fantastic.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:26
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Is he the very best, alone, above all others? Because that's what I'm talking about.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:35
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mikeraskol posted:I know we all love to meme and stuff but CCnC is a legitimately good player. He’s not Sumail but he’s good and his improvement from the last TI was massive. I'm in no way memeing, he's Good as compared to average players but the gulf between him and the actual top of the pack is like the gulf between him and me (im not good)
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emdash posted:nope. ESL dude said something was in the works https://twitter.com/theflyingdj/status/1165547761820979202?s=21 Can't wait to be blinded by a singular light
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