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 I'm down. taishar malkier VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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Sep 4, 2019 22:56
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:
hell yeah hunk lan
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Sep 4, 2019 23:16
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He's 5-10 years younger than I pictured Lan, but that's a solid loving choice.
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Sep 5, 2019 00:30
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If someone wants to make a WoT thread that's cool, btw
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Sep 5, 2019 00:35
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Atlas Hugged posted:He's 5-10 years younger than I pictured Lan, but that's a solid loving choice. have you considered that he could easily be 50 by the time a show could get to the last battle
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Sep 5, 2019 00:56
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His face doesn't look like it was hit with a shovel enough times
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Sep 5, 2019 05:14
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eke out posted:have you considered that he could easily be 50 by the time a show could get to the last battle Great point and I think he's supposed to benefit from the Bond anyway.
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Sep 5, 2019 05:44
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:
The golden crane flies to battle!
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Sep 5, 2019 15:31
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This guy knows the proper way to walk across a courtyard.
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Sep 5, 2019 16:24
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I made a Wheel of Time thread because nobody else was doing it
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Sep 5, 2019 18:39
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Atlas Hugged posted:Great point and I think he's supposed to benefit from the Bond anyway. Yeah, was going to say... Also: This is a really good casting.
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Sep 6, 2019 19:26
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Thing I just realized I very much want to see in Rhythm of War: Rock interacting with Wyndle. Poor Wyndle got no respect from Lift, how will he react when somebody worships him as a god?
Torrannor fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Nov 7, 2020 |
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Sep 12, 2019 15:33
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It will be interesting to see him interact with a character that isn’t worthless, I agree.
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Sep 14, 2019 19:19
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I'm listening to storm light archive for the first time although I have read through it. I don't know if it's an audio vs visual thing, but I enjoy both the books and Shallan so much more. I'm starting to think I skim/miss a lot of books when I read them, because the same thing happened to me with the Wheel of Time. Ps Lift is the best character
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Sep 15, 2019 15:27
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RC Cola posted:I'm listening to storm light archive for the first time although I have read through it. I don't know if it's an audio vs visual thing, but I enjoy both the books and Shallan so much more. I'm starting to think I skim/miss a lot of books when I read them, because the same thing happened to me with the Wheel of Time. Lift is an incredibly polarizing character. Opinions on her are always very strong toward love or loathing. Shallan is a better character on rereads because while her WoK adventures are still really slow paced, there's so much stuff that gains meaning with the knowledge from future books. Also if you haven't read Edgedancer, it's Lift's PoV novella and is a lot of fun. It also explains why Nale is so different between WoR and Oathbringer.
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Sep 16, 2019 21:06
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i like the character of lift but the writing style shift when she's the viewpoint is grating to me it might have to do with me experiencing her first through an audiobook and the narrator took on a kind of... breathless tone with her and i got real tired of hearing the word "awesome" being drawn out real quick
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Sep 16, 2019 21:27
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I started re-reading Way of Kings now that I finally finished Wheel of Time and man I'm way over-analyzing every little thing. When Dalinar & Co are out on the hunt, he comments how "it's no wonder the Parshendi consider(ed?) chasmfiends gods" and now it mentions how there are some sort of spren that are only seen "around the freshly killed bodies of greatshells". These little things could be - probably are - nothing, but they both really caught my attention for some reason. I need the rest of the series to come out now so I can just read everything 
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Sep 20, 2019 13:25
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Sab669 posted:there are some sort of spren that are only seen "around the freshly killed bodies of greatshells" pretty sure this was just breadcrumbs to flag the idea that there's a symbiotic spren bond that the greatshells depend on in order to get so huge, as their size shouldn't really be possible without being so heavy and slow that they die
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Sep 20, 2019 13:41
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Yea it's probably nothing, largely fueled by how little of Oathbringer I remember. Like they killed him because he wanted to bring back their gods, right? So then I guess the chasmfiends cant be their gods, but... it's gotta all be connected  Also where do spheres come from, if not gemhearts?
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Sep 20, 2019 14:02
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I just want to know more about Roshar's glass industry. For spheres to be basic currency that's a huge amount of production. Guess it's probably all soul-forged? Roll it into a ball of clay then do some magic.
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Sep 20, 2019 15:08
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I think most beings on Roshar have a gemheart
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Sep 20, 2019 15:31
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Looked it up  https://coppermind.net/wiki/Polestone quote:While polestones are produced via mining, a significant source of them on Roshar is the harvesting of the gemhearts that grow inside greatshells So it sounds like prior to the Vengeance Pact, spheres were largely made by mining gems and stuffing them into glass spheres, but now it's killing greatshells and stuffing their gemhearts into glass spheres? Curious how prevalent they were from mining, versus the insane infusion of money once they found out about the gemhearts. Like drat, there's gotta be some ludicrous inflation?  e; prevent -> prevalent Sab669 fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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Sep 20, 2019 15:41
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Sab669 posted:Looked it up Chulls are greatshells, too! Instead of a dairy industry they get gems from their "cattle". Also the gemhearts from greatshells aren't broken into small currency, they're cut and used for soul casting because larger gems can soulcast larger amounts and are less likely to break. It's not an infusion of currency into the economy but raw materials.
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Sep 20, 2019 16:23
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Ah, I thought chulls were purely beasts of burden. And I did just read the part where they said bigger gems = 'stronger' fabrials, but I was under the impression they were also turned into cash money.
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Sep 20, 2019 16:27
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Unlike real money, gems have a physical economic value. Gems hold storm light, storm light can be used in the modern era to soul cast food and keep people alive. Back before the recreance you could also not only do soul cast construction, but all sorts of miraculous healing and such. You pay someone with the right Nahel bond in infused spheres, they heal you with Progression, and keep some of the dun spheres as payment to recharge next storm. I can't remember if its just big animals that have gem hearts, or if ones the size of diamond chips grow in the small ones too. Greatshells just have the obscenely large hearts that can feed an army.
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Sep 20, 2019 16:46
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M_Gargantua posted:
Nearly all native life on Roshar has gemhearts, but in small animals they're small enough to be basically worthless. But they raise several types of livestock primarily for their gemhearts, not just because of the size but also because of the type - emerald is the most highly valued because it's what can soulcast food, which is what enables the Alethi to wage war on the scale they do. The gemhearts of chasmfiends aren't just special for their massive size, but also because they're emeralds. Sab669 posted:Yea it's probably nothing, largely fueled by how little of Oathbringer I remember. Like they killed him because he wanted to bring back their gods, right? So then I guess the chasmfiends cant be their gods, but... it's gotta all be connected Don't read too much into it - Sanderson is exceptional at linking things together, but he's also exceptional at world building and writing people. And writing people includes giving them believable misconceptions. Like, of course the Alethi being who they are would assume that the Parshendi were savages who worshiped giant creatures. They are wrong, but giving them those assumptions informs us of what kind of people they really are. Taffer fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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Sep 20, 2019 17:14
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Taffer posted:Don't read too much into it - Sanderson is exceptional at linking things together, but he's also exceptional at world building and writing people. And writing people includes giving them believable misconceptions. Like, of course the Alethi being who they are would assume that the Parshendi were savages who worshiped giant creatures. They are wrong, but giving them those assumptions informs us of what kind of people they really are. also the parshendi appear to have had some very serious misconceptions about what kind of outcome their actions were going to bring about, as evidenced by pretty much the entire venli arc.
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Sep 20, 2019 21:26
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Taffer posted:Don't read too much into it - Sanderson is exceptional at linking things together, but he's also exceptional at world building and writing people. And writing people includes giving them believable misconceptions. Like, of course the Alethi being who they are would assume that the Parshendi were savages who worshiped giant creatures. They are wrong, but giving them those assumptions informs us of what kind of people they really are. The irony is of course that the Parshendi were explicitly not worshiping their gods. The Listeners were after all the rebels that successfully escaped Odium's control. Though they forgot many of the facts surrounding their rebellion, their oral history has plenty of warnings about their gods: quote:Decayform destroys the souls of dreams. Venli very much tricked the rest of the Parshendi into being bound by their gods again.
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Sep 20, 2019 22:27
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eke out posted:also the parshendi appear to have had some very serious misconceptions about what kind of outcome their actions were going to bring about, as evidenced by pretty much the entire venli arc. the alethi had already killed over four fifths of the parshendi population at that point, the survivors probably didn't care that much
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Sep 20, 2019 23:34
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It was also a war of extermination due to Sadeas executing any parshendi who surrendered to him, which in turn caused the parshendi to start doing the same when they'd have otherwise taken Alethi captives or possibly tried to sue for peace. Though the Alethi still likely would've enslaved all the Parshendi at best.
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Sep 21, 2019 02:34
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Elhokar makes all the princes swear to wipe out the parshendi at the beginning of the war, it was never not a war of extermination. the Alethi are pretty unambiguously the bad guys, which is an interesting dynamic
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Sep 21, 2019 19:14
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That’s a big part of why no one believes Dalinar is trying to do the right thing. He’s not just one of the bad guys, he was the baddest of the bad guys.
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Sep 21, 2019 19:35
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ConfusedUs posted:That’s a big part of why no one believes Dalinar is trying to do the right thing. He was slightly less bad than sadeas
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Sep 22, 2019 00:37
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RC Cola posted:He was slightly less bad than sadeas Sadeas was usually there convincing him to be worse, but as far as the history were aware of, Sadeas did not go out and commit war crimes in the way the Dalinar did. He was really bad.
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Sep 22, 2019 01:07
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RC Cola posted:He was slightly less bad than sadeas Basically only recently, when he went crazy
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Sep 22, 2019 06:15
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I am definitely not defending Dalinar, but Sadeas was definitely equally as bad or worse of a person. He just didn't personally Burn his wife to dead
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Sep 22, 2019 17:33
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SynthesisAlpha posted:Chulls are greatshells, too! Instead of a dairy industry they get gems from their "cattle". Also the gemhearts from greatshells aren't broken into small currency, they're cut and used for soul casting because larger gems can soulcast larger amounts and are less likely to break. Actually both can be true—Jasnah mentions that broken soul caster gemstones can be cut into multiple smaller gemstones later, so presumably broken soulcasting emeralds will get cut into a lot of smaller gems for fabrials or spheres
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Sep 23, 2019 04:45
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Sadeas really was a dick. I was not at all sad that he died like a moron getting stabbed in the eye by a regular-rear end knife
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Sep 23, 2019 17:31
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Slanderer posted:Actually both can be true—Jasnah mentions that broken soul caster gemstones can be cut into multiple smaller gemstones later, so presumably broken soulcasting emeralds will get cut into a lot of smaller gems for fabrials or spheres Nice catch. I imagine they keep recutting the gems until they're too small and just turn to dust. It's absolutely the coolest money and magic based economy I've ever heard of and I have absolutely ripped it off for a D&D setting.
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Sep 23, 2019 17:39
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Dog Kisser posted:Sadeas really was a dick. I was not at all sad that he died like a moron getting stabbed in the eye by a regular-rear end knife I am, because the swap in roles between him and Amaram in book 3 is really grating, and the original draft would have worked better.
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Sep 24, 2019 00:13
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