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God drat It it's the ending of Bleach all over again
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Sep 5, 2019 17:33
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Thoren posted:God drat It it's the ending of Bleach all over again That's a loving terrible thing to say about anything.
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Sep 5, 2019 17:43
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Why didn't zeke just enact his plan as soon as he met and touched eren?
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Sep 5, 2019 18:17
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Jose posted:Why didn't zeke just enact his plan as soon as he met and touched eren? He wants to save Eren first Thats what he says
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Sep 5, 2019 18:21
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Considering that Eren was apparently controlling everything Zeke just saw, and would presumably be aware of everything Grisha told him, as shown by the flashback of him holding Historia's hand, I think it's safe to say there's a few more major twists to be revealed in the next chapter. Maybe we'll find out he pulled an Ozymandias and already initiated his apocalyptic plan.
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Sep 5, 2019 18:27
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lol goddamn eren owns
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Sep 5, 2019 18:41
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Beefstew posted:But the same applies to Dina and Eren was able to direct it there. So what gives? Unless Dina secretly used it to suicide herself. Dina was a pure titan with no mind.
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Sep 5, 2019 19:49
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Elias_Maluco posted:The fact that even Grisha is horrified with Eren's plan enough to prefer Zeke solution makes me think its something really bad
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Sep 5, 2019 23:32
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if he can see the future can't he have seen their deaths
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Sep 6, 2019 01:36
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As much as folks here have been trying to be helpful to sort all this stuff out, I... still need a clearer explanation just so I can understand it better in my own head. See, between Eren "having" the coordinate, who does and doesn't have royal blood, and what the founding titan is, I'm really not sure I truly understand what the gently caress is going on and it primarily revolves around "what the gently caress is the founding titan." Like, is it a titan? Is it the attack titan? Did Grisha, having eaten the Reiss family, obtain the founding titan, and thus pass it on to Eren? Do we not know what the founding titan looks like on its own? How exactly does "having the coordinate" factor into all of this? Is the coordinate a native part of the founding titan or is it something separate? Honestly I could keep asking questions but instead of doing that maybe I should organize this all better. Using my previous questions as an example of just how loving confused I'm getting, just answer this and maybe it'll help. 1: What, exactly, is the founding titan? As in, is it its own titan that we have/have not seen yet and/or is it a piece of Eren. 2: What, exactly, can the founding titan do? I know there's poo poo about the rumbling, commanding Ymir, and wiping memories in here. 3: What, exactly, is the coordinate in relation to the founding titan? Honestly for the longest time I thought the founding titan and the coordinate were the same thing. 4: What is it, exactly, that makes Zeke special again? Something about being Frida's son, right? But what makes Frida special? Does she have royal blood? Honestly I could keep track of everything in Game of Thrones, I don't know why it's so hard to keep this poo poo straight in AoT. Elias_Maluco posted:The fact that even Grisha is horrified with Eren's plan enough to prefer Zeke solution makes me think its something really bad
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Sep 6, 2019 10:57
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#1. It’s it’s own Titan, we see Grisha fight it (and eat it), which is why Eren now has it. #2. It controls other titans and, to a point, all other Eldians. #3. They are, it’s the name of the power. #4. Yes to both, he has royal blood as did his mother.
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Sep 6, 2019 11:10
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I think there’s a distinct possibility that Eren is still playing the long con and shows Grisha a horrible future (selectively), to try to influence him and Zeke. Or it could be as bad as Grisha says and Erens gone full villain. Or maybe we’re gonna get a Code Geass type ending where Erens plan somehow involves alienating everyone to bring them together or some wild poo poo, who knows.
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Sep 6, 2019 13:06
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We still don't know if Grisha was shown Zeke's plan through Eren. I have a feeling Grisha wouldn't agree with performing genocide on his own people.DaveKap posted:4: What is it, exactly, that makes Zeke special again? Something about being Frida's son, right? But what makes Frida special? Does she have royal blood? Zeke is Dina's son, not Frida's. Frida was the carrier of the Founding Titan, that Grisha ate. Dina was part of a separate branch of the royal family.
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Sep 6, 2019 13:57
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This chapter reminds me of the part in Muv Luv where Shirogane and sexy doctor were talking about alternate dimension cause and effect while driving down the highway
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Sep 6, 2019 15:33
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JahRoo posted:Or maybe we’re gonna get a Code Geass type ending where Erens plan somehow involves alienating everyone to bring them together or some wild poo poo, who knows. smh people still referencing Code Geass ending when it's based off of the God Emperor Leto II, and in this case it's even a better match because he also has prescience
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Sep 6, 2019 16:43
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Thoren posted:God drat It it's the ending of Bleach all over again let's not be hasty here
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Sep 6, 2019 17:41
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I still have no idea what's going on and if someone doesn't explain it I'll end up watching some youtube explainer in 5 years.
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Sep 6, 2019 18:05
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Try reading again from the beginning.
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Sep 6, 2019 18:31
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So what I'm getting out of this is that Eren has actually been the Smoke Monster this whole time.
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Sep 6, 2019 18:51
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Conspiratiorist posted:Try reading again from the beginning. Do that, really I did recently, cause I also was barely understanding anything anymore Is great not only to remind yourself: is also very interesting to read this story from the start knowing whats really out there
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Sep 6, 2019 18:54
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Raxivace posted:So what I'm getting out of this is that Eren has actually been the Smoke Monster this whole time. Nah, the Smoke Monster is whatever future Attack Titan wielder is showing just enough of what's to come to control Eren. "To You, 2000 Years From Now."
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Sep 6, 2019 19:31
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Eej posted:smh people still referencing Code Geass ending when it's based off of the God Emperor Leto II, and in this case it's even a better match because he also has prescience Yeah, I made the same comparison.
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Sep 6, 2019 22:46
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This series is one of the best to reread, it's pretty amazing how so many scenes meaningfully change when you know exactly what's happening in them, and how well the new meaning is textually supported.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:02
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ATP_Power posted:This series is one of the best to reread, it's pretty amazing how so many scenes meaningfully change when you know exactly what's happening in them, and how well the new meaning is textually supported. Yeah, it's amazing how not only everything fits, everything actually makes a lot more sense when you know what's really going
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Sep 6, 2019 23:51
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ATP_Power posted:This series is one of the best to reread, it's pretty amazing how so many scenes meaningfully change when you know exactly what's happening in them, and how well the new meaning is textually supported. Elias_Maluco posted:Do that, really Yeah, I remember reading someone pointing out stuff like this (chapter 1 and chapter 121). Like, regards to why Grisha wasn't looking at his son when he was talking to him. Turns out he was, just not his son at that point in time.  
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Sep 7, 2019 05:55
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Yeah, I remember reading someone pointing out stuff like this (chapter 1 and chapter 121). Like, regards to why Grisha wasn't looking at his son when he was talking to him. Turns out he was, just not his son at that point in time. holy poo poo
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Sep 7, 2019 08:01
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Also, wow, always amazing to see what a decade of work and staffing can do to art.
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Sep 7, 2019 16:42
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witchcore ricepunk posted:Also, wow, always amazing to see what a decade of work and staffing can do to art. Yeah, he can now afford screen tones and assistants to stick them on. So the finer details have cleaned up significantly, also the inking on clothing is way better and looks a lot less stiff.
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Sep 7, 2019 17:33
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I bet the 2,000 years in the future thing is someone showing this to Eren, then he kills himself in the womb. Or something.
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Sep 7, 2019 18:09
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man I hope not. that ending would blow
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Sep 7, 2019 18:31
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Yeah the butterfly effect already used that one and it was a horrid bookend to a terrible movie so no
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Sep 7, 2019 19:59
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Thanks for answering my questions. I think I get it all now! Other than mixing up Frida and Dina, anyway.
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Sep 7, 2019 20:34
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Motherfucker...
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Sep 7, 2019 22:36
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Chapter 1 should be renamed to: "To you, my readers, 10 years from now" From any other writer I'd think it is a very cool and happy coincidence, but still just a coincidence. Considering chapter 1 also has that 2000 years line which paid off after 9 years of setup? I can buy that Isayama planned the paneling of the pages out thinking "man wouldn't it be super funny if i got absurdly successful and get to recontextualize this scene 10 years down the line".
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Sep 7, 2019 23:21
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The very first scene with eren and mikasa is him waking up from a flash forward, and now with the latest events I dont even know if its of his own life or a descendants
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Sep 7, 2019 23:54
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Man this is going to amazing to re-read (assuming the ending doesn't disappoint). How popular is AoT in mainstream culture? I feel like this has got to be one of the most underrated pieces of literature of contemporary writing.
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Sep 7, 2019 23:57
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iamsosmrt posted:Man this is going to amazing to re-read (assuming the ending doesn't disappoint). How popular is AoT in mainstream culture? I feel like this has got to be one of the most underrated pieces of literature of contemporary writing. It's been consistently the third-bestselling manga for the past several years and made the NY Times bestseller lists at some point. The anime is even more popular, I think. There have been crossovers with Avengers in official Marvel comics and discussion of a Hollywood live-action remake. While it's not the BIG THING that it was in 2013 (that honor, deservedly or not, goes to My Hero Academia), it's definitely one of the most recognizable anime properties and largely responsible for the revival of interest that occurred in the mainstream in the early 2010s.
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Sep 8, 2019 01:32
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So Grisha is going for the Destroy ending. Is Eren going for Control, or Synthesis?
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Sep 9, 2019 06:43
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:So Grisha is going for the Destroy ending. Is Eren going for Control, or Synthesis? Clint Mansell should score this, that much I'll give you.
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Sep 9, 2019 07:15
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:So Grisha is going for the Destroy ending. Is Eren going for Control, or Synthesis?
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