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Cannon_Fodder posted:I'm not being smug or fastidious, but: Oh I definitely do for longer trips or winter when I bring more clothes and will still want a real tent. My tent fits well on a few places on the outside. I’m mostly jibber-jabbering because I’m excited about having a smaller setup for easy warm 1 night trips.
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Chard posted:Phew, for that price why not just look at Zpacks? They're single-wall so you give up the removable fly but save almost half the weight. I actually got the tent with a footprint thing that you substitute for the full inner tent and makes it lighter, on the basis that there aren't too many mosquitoes at altitude. I think about 600g total weight. Yeah you can get lighter with the ones that use adjustable trekking poles but then you have to definitely carry the poles and they don't look that stable if a storm rolls in. I think I recall that the Zpacks fabric is really fragile and maybe unsealed seams? The MSR was around the lightest while still being a self-contained tent.
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I like my MSR Hubba NX 2 single person, but I definitely pack the tent, rain fly, and my ground cloth separately, and poles aren't terribly space efficient because they ('re hollow  and) can't be compressed easily.
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Last page of discussion makes me very happy to canoe camp. My 75L pack is generally pretty full even with my tent clipped to the outside, AND we bring a separate barrel for food /cooking implements.* I've actually been eyeing a 115L dry pack since we're considering starting on whitewater trips. *We do 3-5 night trips so we're not actually over packing that much
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Sep 5, 2019 22:30
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Not sure if anyone else interacted with the infamous Baltimore Jack, but outside has a piece on him https://www.outsideonline.com/2401325/baltimore-jack-appalachian-trail My wife and I met him a few times on our 2011 thru hike.
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knox_harrington posted:I actually got the tent with a footprint thing that you substitute for the full inner tent and makes it lighter, on the basis that there aren't too many mosquitoes at altitude. I think about 600g total weight. I can't speak about the zpacks tents personally, but single wall trekking pole supported tents--especially pyramids/tipis with a central pole under a mostly compressive load--are among the most stormworthy (and certainly the most wind resistant) shelters you can buy. Pretty much the only shelters stronger than those are mountaineering "tunnel tents" supported by multiple high-angle of curvature poles, that weigh easily 3-4x as much. The material zpacks uses is extremely hard to tear, but the standard 0.5 oz/sq yd thickness is not super puncture resistant. I've found 0.75 oz/sq yd DCF material to be very tough, but most people opt for the thinner material.
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I've used the Zpacks before on a canoe trip, came back and immediately ordered another one and their tarp. They also sell the carbon fiber poles for the triplex if you don't want to carry around trekking poles, I've used it both with the stand alone poles and the trekking poles and it was fine both times. Even used it in ~20F weather. 
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Made some adventurous new friends in the city of Kharkov, Ukraine, and this past weekend we hopped on the intercity train about an hour south to the Nature Preserve outside of Zmiyiv for a little camping trip. We had biked the area a few weeks prior and came across a really beautiful mountain/mound overlooking a river and the Steppe. Basically the only observable "mountainous" spot in over a hundred square kilometers. We heard tell from the locals that this time of year at sunrise, the precipitation systems blow in from the East over the vast Steppe and get trapped in this little mountain enclave, making a hundred-meter mound feel like highest peaks of the Alps. So we came back for a little camping trip, got real drunk and set more than a few sunrise alarms on our phones. It did not disappoint.                  a surprise paddle-boarder     can't wait to go back and see what it's like in winter
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Somehow I forgot this thread existed, glad to have found it again. Doing a single night stay in the smokies soon, single night because a friend is headed down there for vacation with his family but wanted to get in to backpack as well. I feel it's going to be murder just due to the rate we have to hike in, but as with all things backpacking ... it will be awesome.
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That looks amazing  Mercury Ballistic posted:Not sure if anyone else interacted with the infamous Baltimore Jack, but outside has a piece on him Thanks for this, it made for an interesting read.
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Yay work is sending me to Jackson Hole for 8 days! Gonna go hang out in the woods!
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That’s awesome! If you don’t mind my asking, what’s your job going to be? Looks like day hikes ahead for me, but I’ve got a couple places to explore that don’t allow camping anyway. Found this gem this week too:   
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I’m a pilot, it’s basically a week long layover where my hotel, food, car and beer are covered.
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Sep 14, 2019 01:16
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If only I knew how to fly. Enjoy!
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RE rain fly: Always. The vestibule alone is something I will not go without. RE packing it down: I'd go with the 60L just because its about the same weight as the smaller pack but gives you much more room for multiple uses, day or multiday. For my serious pack (3+ days) I have like a 70 or 75 and still could use more space, but it carries totally fine even over long distances so a proper fit is really key. Look for a pack with longitudinal zippers, allowing for access along the entirety of the pack. But I also agree with the above posters who said to reconsider gear. Dump too many changes of clothes--you will rapidly go nose blind to yourself. Tents can only be packed down so far, so the exterior straps are a great idea. But for sleeping bags, wet/dry bag, etc., look into a compression stuff sack. I"m amazed how much more room that device gets me.
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ogarza posted:I've used the Zpacks before on a canoe trip, came back and immediately ordered another one and their tarp. I like the look of the zpacks tarps. Might get one of the camouflage ones. How shiny is that material? If its glinting in the sunlight there's not much point it being camo.
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I have the grey one and it's not super shiny but I'm not sure if the same sheen was on camo it would be that great. It's definitely not matte.
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Bilirubin posted:RE rain fly: Always. The vestibule alone is something I will not go without. I ended up with a Kelty Redwing 50. It can carry everything I need for the 1-2 night stays I typically do. I’m sure it could do even more if I strap the tent on the bottom. Plenty of room for winter gear too.
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climbed Belknap Crater near Sisters, OR yesterday. not a big hike but the terrain and elevation made it difficult here's North & Middle Sister. i have to learn how to climb these one day 
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knox_harrington posted:I like the look of the zpacks tarps. Might get one of the camouflage ones. How shiny is that material? If its glinting in the sunlight there's not much point it being camo. I've not seen the camo, I have the heavy gray material, and it's not shiny at all, more like in between shiny and matte gray because of how crinkly it is (material is shiny). Although to be fair, I've never set it up in the sunlight, mainly I go to the north woods. ogarza fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Sep 16, 2019 |
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This place is talking to me. I just want to drop a tent here and stay for awhile.
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Sep 18, 2019 13:19
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Where is that
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Kings Canyon National Park. We did the clockwise Rae Lakes loop last week (apx. 46 miles with side hikes). That's Fin Dome above the middle lake the morning we crossed Glenn Pass. I'm a crummy photographer which is why I'm so pleased with that first one. Looking South back down the ascent through Paradise Valley View from rim of 60 Lakes Basin above Rae Lakes Area between Onion Valley trailhead and Kearsarge Pass, I think Bubb's Creek, our companion on the way out Above switchbacks back down to Road's Ende: also I just realized these are enormous but oh well
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oh lol yeah now I recognize Fin Dome. Chard posted:Kings Canyon National Park. We did the clockwise Rae Lakes loop last week (apx. 46 miles with side hikes). That's Fin Dome above the middle lake the morning we crossed Glenn Pass. I'm a crummy photographer which is why I'm so pleased with that first one. I think that's East Vidette Peak so it'd be on the other side of Kearsarge Pass from Onion Valley
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Levitate posted:oh lol yeah now I recognize Fin Dome. That's what I was thinking looking at the map, so I guess that confirms it. This was shot after we crossed Glenn Pass.
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Those pics are amazing. In similar news, I spent the day hiking around Grand Teton National Park. Had a pretty exhausting 15 miles considering the altitude and also I guess because I drank last night?    Edit: Oh! Also (not a great pic because he was super skittish) but after several attempts I got a picture of a pika! 
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Sep 19, 2019 01:45
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Keep breaking tables with this sort of poo poo. I'm all for it. <3
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Very happy to oblige! Also I only post on the Awful app so I don’t see it, but I thought table breaking wasn’t a thing anymore.
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I remember getting probation for breakin tables. Ah the good ole days.
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Table breaking is gone, but web browsers are still really poo poo at downloading large numbers of large files. This page chugs hard until everything finishes loading. Programming is hard. 
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Did 3 nights in the Sawtooths last month, which was cool. Hadn't been there before. The Alice Lake/Toxaway loop was fairly busy but we still got a nice camp to ourselves at Toxaway Lake and there were no mosquitos which was the best part. Second night was at Spangle Lakes and things got a fair bit more quiet when you got out of that main loop. Probably even fewer people if you had time to keep going a bit further in. We looped back to Edna Lake and again didn't seem to be anyone there for the last night.  Looking back at the White Clouds while climbing to Alice Lake Twin Lakes (above Alice Lake) while headed up and over towards Toxaway Lake Another look back at the White Clouds Morning coffee at the lake Not actually sure which lake this was Camp at Edna Lake Had a little bit of weather try to sneak in on the last day    Section looked like an avalanche or rock slide zone, not sure exactly but it was a big mess of crushed and smashed trees
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Crossposting from the climbing thread, because these aren't really climbing photos for the most part. I spent a week in Yosemite (mostly in Tuolumne Meadows) climbing.              
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That is so awesome. I may try my hand at climbing in the spring. I want to work on my fear of heights and have one more thing to do when the weather is nice in the hills.
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Nice! Matthes Crest is such a great route..
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Rolo posted:Those pics are amazing. In similar news, I spent the day hiking around Grand Teton National Park. Had a pretty exhausting 15 miles considering the altitude and also I guess because I drank last night? My undergraduate geology field camp was based out of Hoback Canyon near Jackson Hole, and their idea to get us acclimated for the summer was to march us up Middle Teton to Garnet Canyon. Gorgeous but also hellish. Fortunately I had my only attack of altitude sickness in Telluride a few days previous (sue me, I had lived near sea level most of my life to that point). By the end of that summer my legs were ripped, and I thought nothing of hiking up the perimeter walls around the top of Alta, Utah. Wish I were that fit now I would love to get back there sometime
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armorer posted:Crossposting from the climbing thread, because these aren't really climbing photos for the most part. I spent a week in Yosemite (mostly in Tuolumne Meadows) climbing. This is some good poo poo.
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Bilirubin posted:My undergraduate geology field camp was based out of Hoback Canyon near Jackson Hole, and their idea to get us acclimated for the summer was to march us up Middle Teton to Garnet Canyon. Gorgeous but also hellish. Fortunately I had my only attack of altitude sickness in Telluride a few days previous (sue me, I had lived near sea level most of my life to that point). By the end of that summer my legs were ripped, and I thought nothing of hiking up the perimeter walls around the top of Alta, Utah. Wish I were that fit now That’s cool! I got a huge headache once hiking around Aspen and Snowmass that I attributed to altitude. I averaged something like 7500-7700 feet this hike but it didn’t bother me at all. I think the morning kept me going with cold temps and the afternoon by how annoyed I was with the (other) tourists. There’s a boat that runs across the lake for a few hours a day and takes people to the canyon trail with no effort. It opens up some of the more beautiful views to the differently abled, elderly or whomever feels like relaxing. It also opens it up to bus loads of the rudest jerks to share a trail with.
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Rolo posted:Edit: Oh! Also (not a great pic because he was super skittish) but after several attempts I got a picture of a pika! 
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I'm in the beginning stages of planning a 5 day trip to Glacier NP next year. Any recommendations on must do trails or campsites? Only wrinkle is that we were planning on a late August - early September arrival which I know makes things iffey with snow and the weather.
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