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Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Yea that feels like a producer call more than anything. If they took their body of work it would make more sense but they obviously don’t care about that from show to show.

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The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer
What a joke

TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009


What a bunch of bullshit

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe
The judging on this show is ridiculous. Cam had the weakest tattoos 2 weeks in a row, didn't understand the task of using 2 different styles, and yet still remains although the only competition Cam could win would be for the title of Brag Master. Cam's major specialty or style is making a mess on men's upper arms.



And the 'battle of the sexes' premise at this point makes no sense. There's only 7 people left, no preliminary challenge, and no coaches - why were they still split into "teams" that had no bearing on anything.
Oh well at least Chris has started dressing like an adult so we must be near the end of the season.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




It was to ensure a woman gets to the finale, just like switching the genders of the guest coaches was to give the women a chance to win something. It’s very ham fisted but at least it’s there.

Fru Fru
Sep 14, 2007
We're gonna need a bigger boat...and some water.
I don't feel like a woman is guaranteed to get into the finale with the way this season is going. At this point the only guarantee is Cam because apparently they will ignore anything to keep him on this show.

My actual prediction: Cam, Jason, Laura with probably Jason for the win.

I know it is all nonsense and most of you skip the drama parts but I don't and Laura storming out after no one chose her tattoo really bothered me. It was a good tattoo but they were all pretty good except for Cam's. Maybe stay and support your team instead of acting like some crazy injustice has been done to you?

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


Fru Fru posted:

I know it is all nonsense and most of you skip the drama parts but I don't and Laura storming out after no one chose her tattoo really bothered me. It was a good tattoo but they were all pretty good except for Cam's. Maybe stay and support your team instead of acting like some crazy injustice has been done to you?
Would be funny if the shot of her walking out was more of a bathroom break or getting some water. Her first tattoo was good.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




It’s a definite guarantee, there has never been a one team finale and they’re won’t be cause it’s a scripted show like all reality TV.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
It's funny, because every single artist is sensitive and defensive and argues every mistake to death, but the women always seem to be the ones that are quick to point out how sensitive the men are (and then the tears flow during critique and one of them walks out because she didn't get picked.)

The judging criteria is always wildly varied, and they manipulate it each episode to get rid of one person over the other. And yet, it can still be juuuuuuust barely justified. After all, Holli's house was crooked as hell, but if you're comparing the final two, Cam didn't follow the challenge. If you're judging overall, Cam edges out Holli, but Holli did better work on this day. I know they like to fall back on the whole "what really matters in the end is the ink on the skin" deal, and with that, you can kinda justify Cam's two similar tats versus Holli's roughly applied face.

It always feels like they give more slack to an artist who did well early on and is struggling vs. someone who hasn't really stood out and is very up and down.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I would guess they’re setting Cam up to get to the finale or real close to lose so they can bring him back later for grudge matches since Cleen and Christian has been played out to death. Probably bring back Josh too since they’re both cocky shits that bring the drama.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe
"If you let me do what I want you'll get a great tattoo"
Another possibility is that the theme for the episode was Marketing, and Cam is really good at forcing his ideas and limited range of skills onto chumps human canvases instead of giving them what the ask for.

TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009


Aaaaahhhhahahahaha get gently caress'd Cam.

You did great tattoos but your attitude blows.

That eagle was bad too, and that coffin.

Fru Fru
Sep 14, 2007
We're gonna need a bigger boat...and some water.
Wow that was great!

Really thought Dani was gonna go, that eagle was bad but Cam's was super ugly too.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer
Lmao the tears all over his shirt during the last confessional

Your shirt truly look like a dishrag cam

Beer_Suitcase
May 3, 2005

Verily, the whip is ghost riding.



Oh man. Bye bye Cam!

Me and the wife went "Ooooooh! At the TV.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe
For those who fast forward through all the 'talkie' stuff and missed it: the wheelchair cover segment was quite emotional - in a good way.

Dani knew her eagle was a bad drawing and not the Trash Polka look the customer asked for ("You can have some red added later" ?!), but she went ahead with it anyway - and survived. IDGI.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


Binary Logic posted:

For those who fast forward through all the 'talkie' stuff and missed it: the wheelchair cover segment was quite emotional - in a good way.
On one hand, feel good story. On the other, they can't say anything bad about the art. Imagine Oliver saying "it's jacked" to a 4 year old in a wheelchair.

quote:

Dani knew her eagle was a bad drawing and not the Trash Polka look the customer asked for ("You can have some red added later" ?!), but she went ahead with it anyway - and survived. IDGI.
They needed to eliminate a guy, and Cam being terrible at color gave them an out. Dani's was worse.

TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009


Binary Logic posted:

For those who fast forward through all the 'talkie' stuff and missed it: the wheelchair cover segment was quite emotional - in a good way.

The only talkie poo poo worth fastforwarding thru is the bullshit after the flash challenge/elimination tattoo when its obvious the producers put half the contestants or a select pair in that room with the couch and tell em "now just go at it"

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
Dani's was absolutely worse. I can't believe Oliver let that Eagle slide. Not since Tatu Baby do I recall a more egregious producer elimination.

Not that Cam's an awesome guy, but on the list of assholes this show has produced, he's pretty low on the list. Some muddy coloring and a couple slightly off swords vs. an owl with an eagle's head. Shenanigans I say. Worst part being, Dani is very unlikely to make the finale anyhow. I could understand if it was Laura who did that, but man. Ironically, if she had done the trash polka, she could have played with the negative space and the patterns to make up for the eagle not being full spread.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I have a feeling they want Laura to win and Cam was her biggest competition so they took the chance and had him go.

Beer_Suitcase
May 3, 2005

Verily, the whip is ghost riding.



Did anyone else's jaw hit the floor when Laura brought up the death of her brother to the mother of the live kid in front of her? I had to pause the TV.

TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009


Beer_Suitcase posted:

Did anyone else's jaw hit the floor when Laura brought up the death of her brother to the mother of the live kid in front of her? I had to pause the TV.

Yeah that was really weird.

Lady was describing her sons condition, and how they don't believe he's been completly diagnosed, and shes all "Yeah, I know how you feel. My brother committed suicide"

Maybe it was just edited really weird and that conversation was a lot longer.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

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TheDon01 posted:

Yeah that was really weird.

Lady was describing her sons condition, and how they don't believe he's been completly diagnosed, and shes all "Yeah, I know how you feel. My brother committed suicide"

Maybe it was just edited really weird and that conversation was a lot longer.

Yeah, Since the mom mentioned the 'not completely diagnosed' part, I assumed Laura might've discussed her brother having an issue with an incomplete diagnosis either mental or physical that led to it.

It was pretty bizarre on-screen.

For as much as I hated on Cam the past couple weeks, Holy Hell that eagle. On the back of his head, that eagle. But it did get me to look up 'Trash Polka' and that style is really cool.

I still hope that Jake makes it into the finale. He's felt like the dark horse this entire season.

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
Pon's tattoo was downright scary looking.

Portrait/pin ups always screw people up

Fru Fru
Sep 14, 2007
We're gonna need a bigger boat...and some water.
Yeah it was really obvious who was going home this week.

Also it really illustrated how useless the jury of peers is. We know there have to be 3 in the bottom and only 2 tattoos were even considered good by the judges. This is simple math.

Looks like next week is another blind judging which I like. They should do that a lot more often.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

Digital Jedi posted:

Pon's tattoo was downright scary looking.

Portrait/pin ups always screw people up

Traditional illustrative portrait. from a photo, judged on precision . And you have 6 hours, starting now!
This comp was designed to mess them up.

Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Sep 13, 2019

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I see their problems but I thought 70s porn dad was fine I also thought Laura’s was fine too. Portraits are usually god awful like Pons.

fistful of hammers
Nov 11, 2011

Digital Jedi posted:

Pon's tattoo was downright scary looking.

Portrait/pin ups always screw people up
Pon's looked like the last known photograph of that poor girl.

TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009


Holyshit Dani, Laura and Jason

Jake did great, shame he didnt to the finale.

Hope the finale is exciting, its usually kinda a drag.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

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Yeah, I'm bummed about Jake. He went from'Uh, what's this guy's name again?' to the one I was rooting for.

Once they voted for Laura to get yo the finale, I was just like 'Welp. There we go.'


I have a question, has anyone made it as far as Jake did without ever getting tattoo of the day? I'm guessing probably, but once a season is over, I forget everything about it.

Fru Fru
Sep 14, 2007
We're gonna need a bigger boat...and some water.
Jake and Dani both kinda came out of nowhere on this show. I really loved Dani's final tattoo and honestly never liked the broccoli wizard so I'm glad they picked her first.

Interesting that they are only doing one tattoo for the finale this time, haven't they been doing two for a while now? I also forget everything about this show after it's over.

Agree that Laura will probably win but I am rooting for Dani after these last few eps.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
She's got some bright spots but if you look at her whole body of work, Dani really doesn't deserve to be in the finale. Even ignoring that she should have gotten the boot over Cam, the past few episodes all her talking heads are like "Oh I did such a bad job," or "I've never done this," or "Uh, I don't even know what that is." She's been very lucky. Her pepper was really nicely applied, but it was just a pepper with a face. Good, not great. Not that Jake's witch was amazing either.

Guessing it comes down to Jason and Laura, and Laura ends up taking it with technical application over Jason's creativity. Assuming there's no America voting shenanigans, in which case both girls are pretty much guaranteed to be the final two.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Well a lot of the times it’s really just two people going at it in the finale, there’s usually a really weaker app one that going into the finale, it probably shoulda been Cam though.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Fru Fru posted:

Interesting that they are only doing one tattoo for the finale this time, haven't they been doing two for a while now? I also forget everything about this show after it's over.

Need to free up time for that coach competition I guess. But not sure how they will weed it down from three to two then for the main final.

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
I'm happy and glad Laura won. I think she had the better of piece.

Ashley's tattoo was amazing and glad she won. Really hope they continue blind judging.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Easily the worst tats I've ever seen in a finale. Dani's, meh, no idea what it was supposed to be and I would be legit angry to have that poo poo on me. Laura's was .. nice but had no depth, no contrast, so was unreadable and not a winner on any other season. Creepy Jason's was generic but better art. But it was always going to be Laura and we knew that and they knew that. I was briefly intrigued by Grudge Match or whatever but the preview reminded how poorly this show does fake drama and I deleted the timer. Ashley's tattoo was fantastic, she legit won the coach's thing.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer
I thought Jason's was pretty mediocre tbh. Lot of weird lines in the middle (look at the medallion for example), pretty flat, and I'm just plain tired of hyper objectified big titty lady tattoos, traditional imagery be damned.

Fru Fru
Sep 14, 2007
We're gonna need a bigger boat...and some water.
Yeah I thought it was weird for him to show up at the battle of the sexes with something that objectifies women but whatever. Not outright insulting but certainly tasteless. It was well done but I agree with the judges that it wasn't realism.

Yay for female inkmaster and for Ryan's win!

But I would have picked Dani's out of the two. Laura's was just too dark all over and kinda unreadable. Dani followed like every single rule they set down and it was her first time ever doing something like that which I think is pretty amazing. Compare that with Laura who was like "oh they gave me Japanese I'm gonna ace this" and just didn't. Dani posted her process on instagram and all the research and effort she put into the drawing is crazy. I know I really just sound like a Dani fangirl which I guess I am now but I am still happy that we get another female inkmaster either way.

And yeah grudge match looks bad. Also turf wars? They are really running out of theme ideas. They should just go back to no theme.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


Ink Master: Back to Basics

Flash challenge is smaller tattoos testing a certain component of the elimination tattoo's larger idea, only used to determine order.

No jury of peers. No teams. You win or lose based on your work only.

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The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Fru Fru posted:

Yeah I thought it was weird for him to show up at the battle of the sexes with something that objectifies women but whatever. Not outright insulting but certainly tasteless. It was well done but I agree with the judges that it wasn't realism.

Yay for female inkmaster and for Ryan's win!

But I would have picked Dani's out of the two. Laura's was just too dark all over and kinda unreadable. Dani followed like every single rule they set down and it was her first time ever doing something like that which I think is pretty amazing. Compare that with Laura who was like "oh they gave me Japanese I'm gonna ace this" and just didn't. Dani posted her process on instagram and all the research and effort she put into the drawing is crazy. I know I really just sound like a Dani fangirl which I guess I am now but I am still happy that we get another female inkmaster either way.

And yeah grudge match looks bad. Also turf wars? They are really running out of theme ideas. They should just go back to no theme.

I agree that I liked danis more. Maybe the first skin tear/biomech tattoo I didn't completely hate, but they were both fine and let's be honest, the script had Laura winning.

They should have done a "oh my God for the first time in history we have no choice but to crown two ink masters" gimmick or something though. It's not like they're gimmick averse.

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