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Squeezy Farm posted:Yeah but the drawings remind me of Klurfs and in a weird way I kinda miss Shmorky.... im shocked that someone who would constantly post gamergate memes might miss a pedophile
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Oxxidation posted:because the comics are meant to get that kind of reaction so he can performatively defend himself Oh come on
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i just posted that round peg one as A) an example of him sucking and B) because i thought it was funny i did not expect stabmaster to post a comic by the holocaust denier dude as a defense of posting the holocaust denier dude, lol
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I guess I’m not allowed in this clubhouse huh
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StabMasterArson posted:I guess I’m not allowed in this clubhouse huh
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While I really appreciate that people are in a safe enough position to out rapists and abusers I would selfishly like to ask that they stop outting people who makes games I like, so I can continue to like those games (poo poo, gently caress, Kingdom/West of Loathing too? gently caress rapists forever! get the hell out!)
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Sep 6, 2019 14:14
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Like, I literally posted how it was okay not to know this, and all you had to do to be cool was not be a douche and post more of his poo poo from that point onward, now that you had been informed. I mean. What the hell.
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Anyway, for the data point, literally everyone I knew, boys and girls alike, played videogames when I was growing up even in my lovely rural midwestern town in the 80s. If anything was a social death curse for me at the time, it was not particularly caring about football, though I was never really bullied all that much, and tended to keep to myself more because that's who I was. Also the consoles in our house tended to more or less belong to my sister, since I had the Commodore 64.
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Sorry for all my lovely posts. If someone could permaban me that'd be fine
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docbeard posted:Anyway, for the data point, literally everyone I knew, boys and girls alike, played videogames when I was growing up even in my lovely rural midwestern town in the 80s. If anything was a social death curse for me at the time, it was not particularly caring about football, though I was never really bullied all that much, and tended to keep to myself more because that's who I was. Adding to this because why not: I'm a girl and I was raised by a family that never bought consoles, but my Dad DID teach us how to install emulators so I grew up with NES/SNES/GBC games and played the hell out of Pokemon and every SNES game ever, even the untranslated ones. The first time I got to play an actual console was when I was 10-12 or so and my babysitter's family had a N64 and Super Mario 64 was the bomb. (Their family was like three sisters, one brother) I also grew up playing Warcraft 1+2 + Starcraft, and good ol' Rage of Mages because my cousin wanted to gift me a weirdo game for Christmas. So in the 90s, gaming was hopping and I cannot believe how awesome it is that it's only gotten bigger since. Shame about the manchildren who don't want me playing cool games, though.
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My first contact with video games was through a neighbourhood girl who owned a NES and enjoyed playing the original Super Mario Brothers with me.
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StabMasterArson posted:Sorry for all my lovely posts. If someone could permaban me that'd be fine If some mod wants to take you up on your offer, please take a look at the steam thread where you whined about posts talking about sexual abusers, demanding they have their own thread such as to not force you to read them, and then every single post in this thread, where you wander in to impotently snipe at other posters and then later just post stonetoss comics and continue to whine about the woke goons bullying you.
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Prokhor posted:If some mod wants to take you up on your offer, please take a look at the steam thread where you whined about posts talking about sexual abusers, demanding they have their own thread such as to not force you to read them, and then every single post in this thread, where you wander in to impotently snipe at other posters and then later just post stonetoss comics and continue to whine about the woke goons bullying you. Yes
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StabMasterArson posted:Sorry for all my lovely posts. If someone could permaban me that'd be fine All your dreams can come true if you use the right tag
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I legit adore it when someone wanders into the thread, implies or states outright that we're overreacting or being irrational and then does the equivalent of the "I WAS MURDERED"/"guess I'll die" meme when called out for it. Every time.
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It's definitely the comedy to the tragedy of the rest of the thread's subject matter.
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StabMasterArson posted:Sorry for all my lovely posts. If someone could permaban me that'd be fine I only queue permas for posters already permaed, posters who have passed on or those breaking the law.
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VideoGames posted:I only queue permas for posters already permaed, posters who have passed on or those breaking the law. Shitposting isn’t illegal? Well that sure makes it less interesting now
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skeleton warrior posted:Shitposting isn’t illegal? Well we still have regular bans and such!!
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Black Griffon posted:I legit adore it when someone wanders into the thread, implies or states outright that we're overreacting or being irrational and then does the equivalent of the "I WAS MURDERED"/"guess I'll die" meme when called out for it. Every time. You should never go full Randy Marsh. A bit of Randy Marsh is okay, but going full Randy Marsh is where most people go wrong.
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FZeroRacer posted:lol @ people who somehow think women invaded games, especially somehow recently when there was a huge movement in the 70s and 80s to create arcade games tailored more towards women because of how many were playing at the arcades Where can I read more about this? I only got into arcades in the mid/late 90s and they were on their way out by then.
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The_White_Crane posted:WRT the discussion earlier about the "all men are trash" rhetoric, I want to link this: Extremely good article. Going to keep it.
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i remember reading something similar re: the arcade thing in a magazine fifteen-twenty years ago. the editors were touring a pinball museum (i want to say somewhere in chicago but can't remember exactly), and the owner said that arcades used to have a pretty fair balance between male and female clientele but the latter dropped off sharply when fighters like Mortal Kombat became en vogue
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Lt. Danger posted:There's been a fair amount of churn in games as the medium has gotten older and design/technology has evolved. Genres that were once mainstays like the RTS, the (D&D-style) RPG, the point-and-click adventure dwindled to the point they had to be revived by indie developers or kickstarter campaigns. Even those are falling out of favour. These genres failed because the space between AAA and indie games died over the last two console generations. Plus, there’s a lot less possible exploitative monetization possible in them. That’s basically it. The main point is blaming new people or minorities for this is 100% off base. In fact, one of those genres ( the JRPG) seems to only be alive now due to finding an audience of women. The wider base is the only reason we have a gaming industry at all, because a bunch of underemployed failsons don’t really have any spending money of their own.
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I mean CRPGs are coming back some too, just from a more indie/smaller studio side rather than AAA. The indie boom I feel has done a good job for letting smaller market stuff make a comeback, both in full on retro-style dungeon crawlers, and stuff that looks more toward being fairly meaty mechanically but more modern in design sense. (On a side note I do wish retro-RPGs didn't always go for wizardry like over M&Mlike drat it, and I wish that the communities for those types of games didnt' so often tend toward being alt-righty as gently caress.)
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Honestly, with Kingdom of Loathing/West of Loathing the next on the abuse chopping block, I'm beginning to think the problem is people and culture in general. Pretty much everything has an alt-right clique now. Turns out we still have a long way to go in making our cultural advances actually stick on more than half the population.
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Roluth posted:Pretty much everything has an alt-right clique now Is this alt-right specific tho? That narrows it down too... conveniently, in my opinion.
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take it away, tom waitsquote:What keeps mankind alive?
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Society has a lot of lovely people in it, lovely culture and lovely attitudes that are slowly being eroded by people fighting to change things. But that stuff has inertia, so it's always gonna be present unless it's challenged, especially when it's hidden away in private Like there's nothing that says alt-right about the KoL stuff, it's about an abusive partner with weird toxic masculinity issues, giving a pass to his bro who thinks it's ok to rape drunk women, and some guy who allows violent abuse to happen in front of him without a word, just conveniently ghosting the situation. There's an obvious power structure there, and it's still not erased from public society, never mind the private corners of people's lives. That's why it's important to speak out and challenge this poo poo at all times, so the people who act this way are scared to do it - so they know they'll be ostracised or even turned in if it's serious abuse
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Roluth posted:Honestly, with Kingdom of Loathing/West of Loathing the next on the abuse chopping block, I'm beginning to think the problem is people and culture in general. Pretty much everything has an alt-right clique now. Turns out we still have a long way to go in making our cultural advances actually stick on more than half the population. It isn't just alt right. A lot of these people are openly leftist and may even support positive things. It is just they also do horrible things in private.
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Gorelab posted:I mean CRPGs are coming back some too, just from a more indie/smaller studio side rather than AAA. The indie boom I feel has done a good job for letting smaller market stuff make a comeback, both in full on retro-style dungeon crawlers, and stuff that looks more toward being fairly meaty mechanically but more modern in design sense. (On a side note I do wish retro-RPGs didn't always go for wizardry like over M&Mlike drat it, and I wish that the communities for those types of games didnt' so often tend toward being alt-righty as gently caress.) I mean, the guy I’m responding to had the idea that all these genres weren’t getting as many games because of some mechanics issues (i.e. random battles or leveling in the case of rpgs) instead of the obvious reason why AAA has abandoned them: you can’t turn them into a casino for pre-teens as easily. They don’t push repeat user engagement or whatever term is being thrown around for “ making your gsme a drug habit”. In any case, it’s not the fault of the new groups being drawn into players no games again, or realistically being somewhat catered to again. It’s a pure plus to the hobby, since more butts in seats helps out with any potential graying issues.
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baka kaba posted:Society has a lot of lovely people in it, lovely culture and lovely attitudes that are slowly being eroded by people fighting to change things. But that stuff has inertia, so it's always gonna be present unless it's challenged, especially when it's hidden away in private I mean, it’s pretty obvious that sexual assault isn’t really a left/right thing. It’s 100% about getting into a powerful position and abusing people. The only reason we see this go alt-right at all is that they’re the main section that actively stands up and protects rapists directly. Because in the end it’s a movement of broken men who realize they’ve lost at life, so they have to mak everyone else lose on their wrest into the dustbin.
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rkajdi posted:I mean, it’s pretty obvious that sexual assault isn’t really a left/right thing. It’s 100% about getting into a powerful position and abusing people. The only reason we see this go alt-right at all is that they’re the main section that actively stands up and protects rapists directly. Because in the end it’s a movement of broken men who realize they’ve lost at life, so they have to mak everyone else lose on their wrest into the dustbin. I mean yeah, there's definitely crossover in that angry and disaffected people get attracted to communities that say they're being deprived of their rightful position and power in society, that want to return to the good old days of traditional values where all these powerful enemies knew their place, etc. That culture itself breeds hostility and points the finger at a scapegoat, anonymity really lets people give their id a good airing, and it's easy for an organised political movement that's based on the same lines to really bring them in But it's important to realise that's not only a right-wing thing. Protecting rapists and abusive behaviour has been extremely mainstream for a long time, it's only really recently that people have felt able to stand up in large numbers and call it out. And when it's so normalised, it's really easy for those attitudes to bleed over into nominally progressive spaces, because it's just part of the cultural background. Like it doesn't conform to leftist attitudes, but it still exists in leftist culture, which makes it all the more harmful when that's meant to be a safe and supportive space It doesn't have to be moustache-twirling predators feigning leftist attitudes while actively seeking to hurt people, you can absolutely get people who believe they're good leftists while doing terrible things (with whatever personal justification). And, more importantly, you get people around them who ignore warning signs and problematic behaviour, because of that background noise from living in a problematic society. It's only by that tacit consent that abusers feel safe to do this stuff with so many people, comfortable they'll be able to talk their way out of trouble or just not be called out at all That's the point those "frantically looking for help through eye contact" posts were making, and it's also why people actually going public (either here or with MeToo) are so powerful - it directly attacks that culture of silence and permissiveness, the "oh I thought it was ok..." normalisation excuse that makes people feel they can't really challenge it, like they're being unreasonable by expecting anything else. And that exists everywhere, the right just embraces it for what it is
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rkajdi posted:Because in the end it’s a movement of broken men who realize they’ve lost at life
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rkajdi posted:It’s 100% about getting into a powerful position and abusing people. It's this entirely. It's all about power. rkajdi posted:These genres failed because the space between AAA and indie games died over the last two console generations. Plus, there’s a lot less possible exploitative monetization possible in them. That’s basically it. See, I don't think these genres have failed. They aren't front and center of all of gaming, maybe, but if you pick a genre I'm pretty sure I can name a great game from it released in the last year. If anything gaming's problem now is too many games, which leads to lower sales, which leads to desperate employees, and power imbalances etc etc. If this really were a "gamers today have terrible and generic tastes" thing then the problem wouldn't be women, it would be millennials in your hobby, or zoomers. Not women.
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ImpAtom posted:It isn't just alt right. A lot of these people are openly leftist and may even support positive things. It is just they also do horrible things in private. Yeah I was gonna say. This problem isn’t split down any party lines. It’s poo poo people on all sides and even ones that say they support the cause but still do this poo poo.
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Being a lovely person isn't dependent on political lines, but that also does not change the fact that only one of the sides endorses this kind of social dynamic as a point of ideological principle.
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this guy is a loving nazi rear end in a top hat and should eat poo poo, but i think this comic does sorta touch on a thing i have noticed at times. some of the sex monsters end up being those white guys who pretend to be good allies and go super overboard with it to cover their own gross behavior. farci and wheadon and to an extent alec are the ones i can think off. that doesn't mean "hurr progressive politics bad" it just means assholes and predators can co-opt to use as cover just like any other idea. what makes me sad is how long these monsters last and are active, because people will look the other way as long as they say the right poo poo. its easy to out the alt right predators because half the time they brag about the poo poo openly. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Sep 6, 2019 |
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