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It's because of it being 3 hours long and poorer reviews I'd imagine. I thought it was a pretty decent decline in overall quality and enjoyment for me but still fine for what it is... the book ideas are too absurd to not seem silly once you put them on a screen.
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sigher posted:Most creative types do this though? That's kinda the point. Though a lot of creative people trash a lot of their ideas so it looks like their output is smaller than someone like King who can keep pumping out books regardless of quality. I can’t speak for everyone but not being able to just sit down and put something on the page, good or bad, has been a constant issue with many creatives.
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Sep 8, 2019 18:09
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escape artist posted:best Last-Drive In episodes from season 1? I missed them all. watching Henry to start Does it bother anyone else that Joe Bob Briggs writes for Taki’s Magazine, a literal white supremacist publication? I know they try to get regular conservatives to write for them as cover, but yikes. I feel weird watching him now.
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Sep 8, 2019 18:12
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Does it bother anyone else that Joe Bob Briggs writes for Taki’s Magazine, a literal white supremacist publication? I know they try to get regular conservatives to write for them as cover, but yikes. I feel weird watching him now. 
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Sep 8, 2019 18:16
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:literal white supremacist... regular conservatives but you repeat yourself
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Sep 8, 2019 18:18
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:but you repeat yourself This poo poo goes back to 2011, when Richard Spencer was an editor there. I could guess that he has some reactionary ideas. Am I the last one to realize that Joe Bob Briggs is an open nazi?
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Sep 8, 2019 19:25
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remember when the guy that wrote green book had tweets defending trump's insane lie about muslims celebrating 9/11 in new jersey so he ended up deleting his twitter completely?
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Groovelord Neato posted:remember when the guy that wrote green book had tweets defending trump's insane lie about muslims celebrating 9/11 in new jersey so he ended up deleting his twitter completely? Yup. I think there's a lot of evidence that that guy at least embellished if not outright invented huge swaths of the story, which was supposed to be a true story about his dad.
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Sep 8, 2019 19:43
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I don't think Briggs is a nazi but he very much buys into the "kids these days are all snowflake pussies" school of dumbass reactionary thought.
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Sep 8, 2019 20:14
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I don't think Briggs is a nazi but he very much buys into the "kids these days are all snowflake pussies" school of dumbass reactionary thought. This. It's not exactly great but he doesn't seem in the least bit hateful in his opinions. Of course if I'm reading that wrong I'll go back on the assessment.
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Sep 8, 2019 20:36
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Writing for Taki is pretty damning in itself. The guy is a nazi. That’s what upset me beyond knowing that Joe Bob is stuck in the 80s wrt social justice and politics, which I already knew.
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Sep 8, 2019 20:40
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James A. Janeese seems like the modern day JBB. I’d watch a whole show with that dude
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Sep 8, 2019 20:47
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Svengoolie never faltered.
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Sep 8, 2019 20:51
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Now someone’s going to post a clip of him in 1978 doing a skit in blackface as Ben from Night of the Living Dead.
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Sep 8, 2019 20:51
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LadyPictureShow posted:I also had a moment of being a snooty elitist movie-goer and rolled my eyes at the homage to The Thing. Why would you roll your eyes at this? It wasn't a winky reference for those in the know, It taking the form of movie monsters from their childhood is part of the plot.
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Sep 8, 2019 20:53
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Groovelord Neato posted:the scene in bev's old apartment was effective when the giant old woman first stomps into frame but is undercut when they cut to the ridiculous face. I actually liked the trailer version of this scene better because they only showed her from behind.
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Sep 8, 2019 21:04
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Does it bother anyone else that Joe Bob Briggs writes for Taki’s Magazine, a literal white supremacist publication? I know they try to get regular conservatives to write for them as cover, but yikes. I feel weird watching him now. Just god drat it. Never heard of 'em, looked them up, and yeah, it's just straight nazi trash. I love horror, it just sucks that it does, and always has, attracted the absolute dregs of humanity. im just so mad and disappointed.
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Sep 8, 2019 21:13
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Horror movie fans have seemed more accepting and nicer than most other subsets of fans, but that’s my experience, I could be way off base
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There are a few reasons a person would go watch a movie where women are sliced apart while screaming and moaning. Some of those reasons are good and compatible with prosocial attitudes, and some of them are what upset Tobe Hooper when he heard a guy scream, “yeah, get that bitch!” at a screening of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Kind of like how the alt-right coopted irony on the internet, transgression can be good or bad depending on context and who’s doing it. Joe Bob may have been hiding in a lacuna all this time and allowing one to be mistaken for another.
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It 2 thoughts; - it’s definitely way too long. - The length is most clear in the middle section; The sequence of the Losers going to get their tokens goes on for-loving-ever, and because we know how many Losers there are it seems to last even longer, because after 2 I’m looking at my watch and thinking “Jesus Christ there’s going to be 4 more of these?” - They decided to add some stuff back in from the book that they didn’t really pay attention to in the first movie, which makes some of the additions seem to not fit in. An example is Bill’s bike - the first movie doesn’t really do anything to establish that Bill’s bike is important or unique in any way, but then in the sequel we have this goofy rear end sequence of James McAvoy riding a bike as if we’re meant to feel something. It would have been better to just trim the fat and leave that stuff out. - Also a kid in 1989 naming his bike after the Lone Ranger makes way less sense than a kid in 1958. - They probably should have just cut Bowers completely out of the movie. It doesn’t add much of anything.
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Sep 8, 2019 21:40
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Lots of spoilers here but this review, while being a little more negative than I'd have been, is close to how i felt about Color Out Of Space
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Sep 8, 2019 21:50
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Joe Bob's politics peeked through enough in Last Drive-In that it turned me off of watching the rest of his Shudder content, which sucks because horror hosts are my favorite thing.
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Sep 8, 2019 22:14
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Put me in the camp of people that liked IT 2 in spite of its many flaws. My biggest gripe was drop in quality of cinematography, which I think would've fixed some of the length issues too as part 2 didn't have the "Derry" character that the first part did so well. I feel like that would've made the parts that dragged more interesting although I do think it was edited well enough (besides the tokens sequence) that it didn't feel like a long 3 hours to me. Also, I interpreted all the talk about lovely endings as preemptive apologia for the film's own ending. It seemed like the filmmakers were saying they couldn't write a satisfying ending, just like King. But I genuinely love Skarsgård's performance.
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Sep 8, 2019 22:27
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i had no idea who the gently caress joe bob briggs was when it was announced i never watched his show or cared who he was but im having a blast watching this thread implode over that piece of poo poo
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Sep 8, 2019 22:27
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I just have no interest in seeing It: Chapter 2, despite enjoying the first. The hook of the film for me was kids vs. evil interdimensional clown, and I feel like I got emotional resolution from the story and Pennywise seemed defeated enough. As a non-reader of the book, a sequel just doesn't feel necessary for me, just an "ACTUALLY he wasn't really defeated now here's some misery porn."
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Sep 8, 2019 22:39
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the book had that problem too imo the kid part couldve been a cool story but the adult part was completely unnesecary
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Kvlt! posted:i had no idea who the gently caress joe bob briggs was when it was announced i never watched his show or cared who he was but im having a blast watching this thread implode over that piece of poo poo Real cool poo poo dude.
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Sep 8, 2019 22:43
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Not surprised it opened lower. Almost every one I know including me who is a horror head is waiting for home cause goddamn 3 hours.
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Kvlt! posted:the book had that problem too imo the kid part couldve been a cool story but the adult part was completely unnesecary Maybe. I think It 1 does work as it’s own thing, but that adult story hits something deep inside my soul that’s affecting me about friendship and getting older and fear and poo poo. I’m only 27 but I felt a lot of deep personal stuff during Chapter 2, so I dunno if I can argue it isn’t necessary, but I can see how it’s not needed if you’re not into more.
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thats true im 21 and read the book when i was 19 so a lot of the adult stuff about returning home and deep rooted childhood fears and getting old didnt really resonate with me on account of my wild youth and supple young body
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Sep 8, 2019 22:46
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Lmao. People flat out switch gears at 25 and it’s horrible.
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CelticPredator posted:Maybe. I think It 1 does work as it’s own thing, but that adult story hits something deep inside my soul that’s affecting me about friendship and getting older and fear and poo poo. I mean, I'm into more. Just, like, the kids going up against Frankenstein or whatever. Such a huge time jump means it might as well be an unrelated movie to me. CelticPredator posted:Lmao. People flat out switch gears at 25 and it’s horrible. Yeah but also kinda great. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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the adult stuff is much weaker in the book as well but it's lessened by the fact the storylines swap back and forth. the only way you could do IT properly is as a limited series on netflix or something. the end was one of the stronger parts of the movie so i don't think it was "haha we;re just like king and can't do endings".
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Sep 8, 2019 23:02
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The miniseries actually did a nice job structurally, especially considering the limits they were up against.
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Sep 8, 2019 23:04
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Overall I'm happy with It 2. The set design and makeup and (non-cg) effects were amazing. It did start to feel redundant though, in the first one when Pennywise grew to room size it was genuinely surprising, but to repeat the gag three more times took the shock out of it. Do they would have leaned further into the lovecraftian cosmic horrors though instead of generic spider crab clown at the end.
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Sep 8, 2019 23:06
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The kid stuff in the book is everything holding it up until, well, you know.
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Sep 8, 2019 23:08
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I decided to deal with my evergrowing horror backlog by arranging horror nights with double features. Tonight we watched American Psycho (roomie suggested it and I was okay with that) and Under the Shadow, but in future I think I want to tailor it to a theme. Also, because I like to torture my friends, I'll probably go for way more terrifying poo poo than American Psycho. Under the Shadow was good though. A bit jumbled, but the reason it was on my list in the first place was because it was mentioned in an earlier horror thread as a film that explored a monster that'd never been seen in horror before, and did it on its cultural home turf. One of my friends praised it for that exact reason when the credits rolled, so mission accomplished. If I hadn't seen The Ritual already, I would've done a night with The Ritual/Midsommar... Black Griffon fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:the adult stuff is much weaker in the book as well but it's lessened by the fact the storylines swap back and forth. the only way you could do IT properly is as a limited series on netflix or something. Right - the way they structured the movies means they put all of the straightforward, exciting stuff in Part 1 and then Part 2 has a mountain of exposition. Especially because Part 2 brings in things that, in the book, happened in the child part (ritual of chud) meaning that they need to explain all of that now as well.
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ive often felt with a few exceptions, Stephen King books are terrible to adapt to film bc so much takes place inside characters heads or in written paragraphs of exposition that are hard to translate to film
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