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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
also, last i heard, the license terms of os x prohibit you from running it on non-apple hardware anyway, so if they already won't "let" you do what you will with the code you've paid for and you're already planning to violate the terms of the license, why in gently caress should you pay for it?

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Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
rule 36

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

so if folks pirate your employer's products, that's good and cool with you?

what kind of bootlicker rear end poo poo is this?

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

why do so many computer people defend piracy

brain damaged from the napster era

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
copyright was a mistake

big black turnout posted:

what kind of bootlicker rear end poo poo is this?

i know right

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

piracy is fine

buying software is fine

software licenses are retarded. I sure love having to design architectures around dumbass licensing rules instead of what’s best for the customer

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Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

is there even a mechanism anymore for buying a standalone copy of mac os?

sincere question

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull
there is no mechanism to buy it standalone any more

i think you can still buy old versions that originally were physically distributed, but everything modern is 100% electronic distribution and you need to already have a mac to download

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug
love to legally run os x in a vm on a linux host (my work imac)

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug
gaming in windows isn’t even great, it’s a dog poo poo OS

get gzdoom and enjoy 25 years of community work that’s really great, or get a switch for new games

pram
Jun 10, 2001
you wouldnt download a car

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

pram posted:

you wouldnt download a car

I mean i would, if i could

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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Lipstick Apathy
i have like 3 old macs sitting in my closet, i might even snow leopard dvd somewhere
it's not be legal in north america (in europe might even be legal), but you would have to be a corporate boot licker to call it immoral

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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Lipstick Apathy
anyways this is all linux related because it makes all this madness possible, its software without limits

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

so if folks pirate your employer's products, that's good and cool with you?

the streams are free buddy

Rufus Ping
Dec 27, 2006





I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano
:psyduck: having an ethical problem with piracy

feel like ive just accidentally wandered into a different parallel universe internet today

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

pirating things is wrong, but i dont care and i'll do the wrong thing anyway if i feel like it

pram
Jun 10, 2001
macos is free software

Lightbulb Out
Apr 28, 2006

slack jawed yokel
pirating poo poo is extremely good, especially when they are linux isos

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

yes

yes i am

this is precisely the thread in which piracy should be least accepted, in a subforum dedicated to computer touchers, who often derive their incomes from software licensing

admitting to pirating osx out of poverty is the dumbest thing i can imagine in the linux desktop thread

it's not just irrelevant, it is like, anti-content that destroys the discussion

yes herp derp let me pirate proprietary unix to avoid... using desktop linux?

osx is based on Linux which is open sores and thus free. nobody should pay for osx especially not for osx on an apple computer than is slower than dirt.

pram
Jun 10, 2001
you literally cant pay for osx, because it is free like beer

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

pram posted:

you literally cant pay for osx, because it is free like beer

:wrong: you cannot pay for it because it is not sold separately; the only way to legally purchase macOS is with a Mac

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
im as communist socialist as the next guy in here. tearing down copyright / intellectual property without tearing down the rest of capitalism's whole idea of work and labor and capital and societal structure makes no sense

heres too many words i wrote on that subject once https://blog.mecheye.net/2017/12/web-drm/

pram
Jun 10, 2001

klafbang posted:

:wrong: you cannot pay for it because it is not sold separately; the only way to legally purchase macOS is with a Mac

there is literally nothing wrong with what i said, every element of that sentence is true

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
it's ethical and cool to pirate poo poo if you're poor but if you're a six figgy fuckwad like a lot of us you should knock it off

that said i'll pirate poo poo if i can't buy it easily so i'd pirate osx in a hot minute

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Cold on a Cob posted:

it's ethical and cool to pirate poo poo if you're poor but if you're a six figgy fuckwad like a lot of us you should knock it off

i'd be inclined to agree if the only real desktop mac workstation didn't cost $holyshit for the base model

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib
I'd also argue it depends heavily on what you're pirating. Like if you're pirating some 99 cent indie android game from a company barely scraping by, gently caress you. If you're pirating os x from a company with more money than god, then by all means

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
cant you get a refurbished imac for like $400 at this point

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

The_Franz posted:

i'd be inclined to agree if the only real desktop mac workstation didn't cost $holyshit for the base model

so because it's expensive it's ok to be an rear end in a top hat?

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
actually-good unix is available free or cheap, but i guess i better pirate this poo poo with hosed up kernel modules i downloaded off an internet forum for piracy instead

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

so because it's expensive it's ok to be an rear end in a top hat?

yes

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

so because it's expensive it's ok to be an rear end in a top hat?

abso loving lutely

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

fckgw.so

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
speaking as the one person in the universe who has ever seen a legitimate licensed copy of winrar,

trilljester
Dec 7, 2004

The People's Tight End.

Shaggar posted:

osx is based on Linux which is open sores and thus free. nobody should pay for osx especially not for osx on an apple computer than is slower than dirt.

Isn't it based off of BSD?

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
proprietary unix is gross and bad and you shouldn't pirate macos

it is a bad thing to do, and macos is also bad

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

trilljester posted:

Isn't it based off of BSD?

Kind-of but not really; it’s based off of the Mach micro kernel with a BSD userland.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

trilljester posted:

Isn't it based off of BSD?

bsd is also a Linux

pram
Jun 10, 2001
its the worlds most advanced operating system

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Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
BSD more like BAD amirite :xd:

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