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a chinese woman i knew in grad school was confused that i was surprised to learn she had two sisters because she didnt consider this to be remarkable at all
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gradenko_2000 posted:Denver gets mini-nuked in The Sum of All Fears, the Hill gets 9/11'd in Debt of Honor, the Iranians unleash an ebola outbreak in Executive Decisions, Washington DC narrowly avoids getting nuked in The Bear and the Dragon, and by the time we pick up the story in Teeth of the Tiger, the physician that distributes succinylcholine injection guns to Jack Ryan's son to help him run his black-than-black-op intel service tells us he joined this assassination outfit because he "had a brother working in Cantor Fitzgerald on the 102nd floor of the North Tower" Lol my mom is both really conservative and an avid reader of thriller trash but even she got to teeth of the tiger and was like "uh so the presidents friends just have a literal blank check to murder anyone they dont like? What?"
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 15:37 |
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StashAugustine posted:Lol my mom is both really conservative and an avid reader of thriller trash but even she got to teeth of the tiger and was like "uh so the presidents friends just have a literal blank check to murder anyone they dont like? What?" conservative is confused by and balks at reality, film at 11
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 15:45 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:Originally he was a Navy analyst sub nerd who got roped into events during The Hunt for Red October because he figured out that the Soviets had created a mostly silent drive for their sub and that the crew was planning to defect. This is stupid because America already had this and the Soviets never did.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I also want to throw out there that Office Jim's other other action movie was 13 Hours: Secret Soldiers of Benghazi It's pretty much an open secret that Krasinski has been working with the CIA, most recently outed when Josh Olson, who wrote A History of Violence, mentioned on a podcast he does with Dave Anthony that he had a meeting with the CIA (because, honestly, even if you disagree with everything about the CIA, you kinda have to take that meeting just to see what it's like to meet a spook whose job it is to lasso in Hollywood for propaganda), and partway through the meeting, said spook tells him that they already have an actor on board for the stuff they've been discussing. Olson never mentions the guy's name, but Dave brings up the Jack Ryan show a few minutes later and Olson is like "oh, how'd you know?" I mean it should have been a given once he did two CIA-boosting things back to back between 13 Hours and Jack Ryan, but I guess since both shows sank into the muck of "who cares" like every other piece of pop culture does these days, nobody really noticed I wonder if Harrison Ford realized what he'd been a part of by doing those 90s Clancy movies and that's what has made him extra ornery in his old age.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 15:55 |
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why do soviets always put the most disloyal soldiers on their super cool experimental weapons
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 15:57 |
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This is still my favorite take on Jack Ryan from someone who watched less than ten minutes of it. https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin/status/1063903657131941889?s=20
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 16:14 |
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The Cameo posted:It's pretty much an open secret that Krasinski has been working with the CIA, most recently outed when Josh Olson, who wrote A History of Violence, mentioned on a podcast he does with Dave Anthony that he had a meeting with the CIA (because, honestly, even if you disagree with everything about the CIA, you kinda have to take that meeting just to see what it's like to meet a spook whose job it is to lasso in Hollywood for propaganda), and partway through the meeting, said spook tells him that they already have an actor on board for the stuff they've been discussing. Olson never mentions the guy's name, but Dave brings up the Jack Ryan show a few minutes later and Olson is like "oh, how'd you know?" lmao of course the best the CIA can get is office jim
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 16:44 |
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Farm Frenzy posted:lmao of course the best the CIA can get is office jim The Office is insanely popular so they could've done a lot worse.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 16:50 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The post-9/11 mood was like an ambient bloodlust. We were ready to kill anyone. I've been watching through Person of Interest again, and it's basically a show about (a) how the entire nation went completely batshit insane after 9/11 and (b) how the government/military/intelligence community is, however well-intentioned, completely rotten to the core. I haven't seen Jack Ryan (or read any Clancy) but just from how it's described here PoI feels like the complete antithesis. It's a show where the ex-military/CIA agent Jack Ryan figure has had basically everything decent beaten out of him to the point where he can barely function as a human being any more and where the supergenius tech billionaire hacker's hubris and callousness effectively doomed the world before he started trying to save it (and he knows it). It's a show where 99% of the police are openly part of a corrupt criminal conspiracy and the few good cops (it's fiction) are the ones who are either ground beneath the system or who choose to actively work outside it. (And the intelligence community are full-on sociopaths, including the occasional good guys, with one of the protagonists having a literal personality disorder to that effect.) It's a show where most terrorists (for all that the show is sometimes a bit lazy about presenting Arab/muslim terrorists) are being used by either the American intelligence community or by evil corporate interests to further their own ends, and it's a show where the thing that makes our vigilante heroes able to function at all is because of a completely monstrous illegal surveillance system (to say nothing of the terrifying artificial superintelligence that controls it, and that's the *good* AI in the show). It's by no means perfect (and is more anti-authoritarian than socialist in its themes, which isn't a problem for me though it may be for some), but it's got better sensibilities than basically any other mainstream crime/superhero show I've ever seen with the possible exception of Leverage. I'd really, really like to have seen what they'd have done with the Trump era. (The show ended in 2015). Shame about Jim Caviezel's personal politics.
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Some Guy TT posted:absolutely no one has any idea how the one child rule in china works and the internet has not improved their competency in trying to look it up instead of making assumptions based on how it appears in other pop culture Im just describing what was in the drat book
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 17:19 |
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blindspotting is great, check it out if it's flown under your radar. it's maybe the best exploration of contemporary us race relations since do the right thing
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 17:50 |
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surprised Clancychat hasn't touched upon Without Remorse, the definitely-not-extremely-racist Death Wish-esque (with added MIA POW flavor) origin story of John Clark e: incidentally supposedly Michael B. Jordan is going to be playing Clark in a two-film adaptation of Without Remorse and Rainbow Six, which should be suitably insane Without Remorse is supposedly coming out in late 2020 lol LGD has issued a correction as of 18:52 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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I love Without Remorse, where Jack Ryan's mentor/friend is revealed to be a straight up serial killer
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 18:56 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvyd7JEtpvQ
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:05 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQhmAWyBkIs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_wLPcH1_WA
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 11:58 |
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the CIA would absolutely try to topple Latveria, a well run country
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 12:22 |
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i like how how the jack ryan cia is awesome franchise progressively downgraded from harrison ford to ben affleck to chris pine to now jim krasinski literally the only cia hero anyone has heard of because the tom clancy popularity window was the only time it would have ever occurred to anyone to write a character like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va5_rn3vG3A
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 12:27 |
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I just can't wait to see of that a Rainbow Six movie outs going ro keep with the plot about all the millionaire environmentalist hippies weaponizing Ebola to create a mass population die off to prevent global warming
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 12:55 |
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I am watching the BBC series Yes Minister from the 80s and it is a really drat good show i'm only on the 4th episode but so far it's like the west wing for cynical smart people instead of for credulous dumbfucks the main action is between this aloof reformer that is trying to cut government largess and the top career civil servant in his office who stymies him by being shrewd and manipulative, funny poo poo
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 13:00 |
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Yeah. Yes, Minister is Tory trash.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 13:05 |
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i think i watched one episode of that awhile ago and really hated it because everyone was talking about how school choice was obviously much better than the public school system and only idiots would think otherwise since thats what the statistics say in retrospect those words apparently meaning completely different things in england might have confused my understanding of what they were talking about
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 13:07 |
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The lead writer of Yes, Minister is a Tory, and a Zionist to boot. It was written under Thatcher's Britain at a time when conservatives still had enough sense to try and be clever & subtle, but it was definitely part of a project to make people distrustful of public servants in order to make privatization easier. I'm not saying you can't enjoy it, but your political instincts aren't wrong.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 13:11 |
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episode 3 of jack ryan is the most dogshit evil propaganda i've ever seen victor, the drone pilot, starts the episode by murdering an innocent man on a motorcycle, for which his partner riot grrl gives him a dollar. he has a bunch of these dollars, all numbered for each kill. he goes to vegas to try and lose it all in a series of crazier bets that wind up winning big. he is taken back to a hotel room by what appears to be a married couple. victor has sex with the woman while the man watches and then the man beats him before they leave in the b-plot of the episode, hanin, the wife of the terrorist suleiman, is trying to run with her kids. suleiman finds out but she escapes with her two daughters anyways. suleiman finds out and sends hanin's uncle fathi and this creepy soldier who was hitting on his daughter yazidi to get them back. the two men track them to a public market and begin chasing them, while victor and riot grrl watch through their predator drones. yazidi captures the daughters and fathi tries to think of a way to stop him, but yazidi kills him. yazidi then drags hanin off to rape her, and the drone pilot victor goes against orders, and when hanin momentarily escapes he blows up yazidi with a missile. hanin gets into fathi and yazidi's truck, looks to her kids and says "see, i told you god would protect us" victor leans back in his chair, obviously happy with himself for doing something good this show is disgusting
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 13:23 |
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Some Guy TT posted:i like how how the jack ryan cia is awesome franchise progressively downgraded from harrison ford to ben affleck to chris pine to now jim krasinski literally the only cia hero anyone has heard of because the tom clancy popularity window was the only time it would have ever occurred to anyone to write a character like that you forgot that it started with alec baldwin
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 13:23 |
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Serf posted:this show is disgusting suffer, like G(radenko) did!
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 13:34 |
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I'm canceling my Netflix. gently caress Tom Clancy
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 14:41 |
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its an amazon show though which really just goes to show how desperate the cia is to keep making clancy stories kind of nuts to think that jack ryan used to be blockbuster material by the way how does this extremely ridiculous and bonkers sounding show like this have 74% on rt is it even possible for tv shows not to get a fresh rating there
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 14:51 |
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browsing the headlines and no one seems to have noticed the propaganda elements the negative reviewers just think its bad for being too generic the positive reviewers strangely enough seem to think its good for the exact same reason
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 14:56 |
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oh yeah there's also a scene where a french intelligence agent tells jack ryan that muslims in france become radicalized because in america someone can be african-american or chinese-american, but muslims will never be french. the implication being that america is better because we don't have racism, i guess? ten loving minutes later she asks ryan "how can you possibly work for your government, knowing what they've done?" and dopey rear end ryan is like "i think i can change things from the inside."
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 15:05 |
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i actually liked hunt for red october even if it is red scare poo poo
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 15:06 |
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lol still one of the dumbest things, even as a kid I remember the comic book dudes at school just rolling their eyes at this poo poo
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 15:09 |
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I'm resubcribing to Netflix and canceling my Amazon prime video
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 15:11 |
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Some Guy TT posted:its an amazon show though there is just so much tv now that reviewers don't bother to watch bad shows and write bad reviews, they just watch things they think they'll like and then write reviews about how much they liked them
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 15:15 |
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im unsubscribing from cia
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 15:15 |
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Serf posted:oh yeah there's also a scene where a french intelligence agent tells jack ryan that muslims in france become radicalized because in america someone can be african-american or chinese-american, but muslims will never be french. the implication being that america is better because we don't have racism, i guess? Whereas the Person of Interest episode I watched yesterday on the bus home ended with Reese telling a dude who was in the Navy who had all the aptitudes to probably be recruited by the CIA to tell them to go gently caress themselves if they ever came calling.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 15:19 |
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Serf posted:oh yeah there's also a scene where a french intelligence agent tells jack ryan that muslims in france become radicalized because in america someone can be african-american or chinese-american, but muslims will never be french. the implication being that america is better because we don't have racism, i guess? dont forget that they show the villain being a secular muslim frenchman in a paris banlieue and then one time he gets arrested by the racist french police for protecting his brother and goes to prison and when he comes out of prison he's magically now a jihadi and that change is never explained except for a vague sense of "oh i guess french prisons are full of muslim extremists and therefore every arab who enters a french prison becomes a jihadi"
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 15:23 |
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vyelkin posted:there is just so much tv now that reviewers don't bother to watch bad shows and write bad reviews, they just watch things they think they'll like and then write reviews about how much they liked them id say we need a crying ebert icon but what possible context could it ever be used in aside from this one
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Squizzle posted:im unsubscribing from cia I would but their website is trash.
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