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Aesop Poprock posted:Early computer RPGs like Wizardry and Ultima had completely random sci-fi elements thrown in for no reason too. Hell I think dungeons and dragons was doing that back in the 70s. Nerds love to cram parts of their nerdiness together wherever possible Yeah, I think I need to get more specific about what I meant. Final Fantasy has robots and factories alongside magic, but earlier games weren't shy about straight up throwing your fantasy characters into a space opera. The overarching plot of Might & Magic is about aliens colonizing worlds (and two of the later games end with you getting ray guns then invading an alien hive colony/a derelict space ship, respectively), Ultima featured an outer space dogfight with the big bad in one of the earlier games and the later Wizardries are about chasing an evil space man and feature two galactic empires as neutral factions. poo poo was bonkers, and I kind of miss that absolute silliness.
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Len posted:Probably Expedition to Barrier Peak? Barrier Peaks is indeed the one. The last Final Fantasy had the party driving around in a goddamn Audi, iirc.
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Sep 11, 2019 15:41
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One thing I hate about the FF1 remakes is that changed the Flying Fortress to a floating castle in the sky instead of the space station it was in the NES/MSX versions
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Mordor She Wrote posted:I'm an idiot that has watched the other starship troopers films and those make it more explicit that the politicians are chosen by a singular party apparatus and have to be citizens and win by giant North Korea style margins. Well then I’m wrong, but I didn’t watch the other Starship Trooper’s movies so I still come out ahead.
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Sep 11, 2019 19:11
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Tiggum posted:The thing is though, there's no way to verify anything that Q says about himself. It might not even be the same person showing up each time. Or the other Qs might also be him. The conflict we see between Q and the other Qs could be staged. When he was punished by being turned human, maybe that was just him loving around or testing Picard in some way or whatever. The scope of his abilities make it impossible to know if anything is as it seems or is even real. There is no way to draw any meaningful conclusion about Q or the Q continuum other than that some being exists and is more powerful than you can imagine. Its nature and motives are impossible to determine. Yeah, the Q are supposed to represent a species so powerful as to be somewhat inscrutable, and to show that if living beings had godlike abilities, they wouldn't just magically become benevolent gods for the good of all - more likely, the power would be abused for their whims and whatever arbitrary rules system they've set up to excuse their behavior just like people, but also not
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Sep 11, 2019 20:13
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At some point Q stops judging humanity and starts just being a fanciful little imp
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Sep 11, 2019 20:39
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Pick posted:At some point Q stops judging humanity and starts just being a fanciful little imp Nah, it was all a test, the whole thing. Did you never see the finale? Or am I remembering that wrong.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:41
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I mean yes but fanciful little imp
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Sep 11, 2019 20:57
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Pick posted:At some point Q stops judging humanity and starts just being a fanciful little imp The Q got fed up with his poo poo so he toned it down. Even so there's a suggestion that the Q will just eradicate any species that turns out to be able to threaten them in any way at all. Or maybe only Q does. Or maybe that was just Q being Q. Who the gently caress knows? There's no way for our puny human minds to actually, properly understand the Q at all.
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Sep 11, 2019 21:00
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Tangentially related but if anybody has not heard John Delancie reading The Raven, that shits on YouTube and it owns
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Sep 11, 2019 21:09
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What ever was up with that one old dude who wiped out the entire species who killed his wife and so he made another of her and just set up on that otherwise barren planet being old and living with his lady? Cus that dude was also basically an omnipotent being, yeah?
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Sep 11, 2019 21:43
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ReidRansom posted:What ever was up with that one old dude who wiped out the entire species who killed his wife and so he made another of her and just set up on that otherwise barren planet being old and living with his lady? Cus that dude was also basically an omnipotent being, yeah? That was an interesting episode. I liked that it wasn't intentional, he just got so mad after trying to suppress his powers that he tetsuo'd out and suddenly that species no longer existed. At all.
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Sep 11, 2019 21:47
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ReidRansom posted:What ever was up with that one old dude who wiped out the entire species who killed his wife and so he made another of her and just set up on that otherwise barren planet being old and living with his lady? Cus that dude was also basically an omnipotent being, yeah? He wasn't a Q and also wasn't as powerful as Q. There were limits on what he could accomplish. He was some kind of energy being that could create illusions or something like that. The Husnock rolled in and blew up everything he cared about so he killed all of them. He wasn't full on omnipotent but was still crazy powerful.
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Sep 11, 2019 21:50
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But chillax enough that the Q aren't threatened by him and just leave him there, I guess? I was curious if he was retconned as a Q or something, but looks like no.
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Pick posted:At some point Q stops judging humanity and starts just being a fanciful little imp well wasn't that the thing though? Q was different from his brethren and actually developed attachments to people He met Jean Luc and decided he liked being an imp much better than being a judgmental time being and spent some time floofing around and got his rear end handed to him by the Q Continuum for daring to be different I've always read that whole situation as kinda ominous tbh, like if you don't act at the Continuum dictates you'll be erased from existence The Q never struck me as a benevolent species whatsoever, and it would seem having so much power comes at a social cost StrangersInTheNight has a new favorite as of 22:27 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Sep 11, 2019 22:24
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The Q are only "benevolent" in that they've decided to leave everyone else alone for the most part.
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Sep 11, 2019 22:56
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what kind of benevolent imp shows up naked in your bed anyway
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hard counter posted:what kind of benevolent imp shows up naked in your bed anyway My favorite kind. 
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Pick posted:At some point Q stops judging humanity and starts just being a fanciful little imp If JDeL's Q had become just this and nothing more, well, to quote Dana Scully, "Sure. Fine. Whatever." But its the inconsistency. In "Qpid" and "True Q" he's more impish, but in "Tapestry" he's an imp with a sneer, playing both "is there a John Luck Pickard here?" and "Oh, but this IS what you wanted, Jean-Luc. A second chance." Then he's malevolent in "All Good Things..." and DS9, mixed in his Voyager appearances, and comically gets his rear end handed to him [physically] by Lwaxana in Q-in-Law and [mentally] by Spock in Spock vs Q. If he shows up in the new Picard series - and I am so, so,SO hoping he does - I only wonder which variant will be there to torment Jean-Luc.
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hard counter posted:what kind of benevolent imp shows up naked in your bed anyway Puck from Gargoyles definitely fucks
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Naked Man Punch posted:If JDeL's Q had become just this and nothing more, well, to quote Dana Scully, "Sure. Fine. Whatever." In Tapestry he's doing Picard a huge favour, and I think he actually saved Humanity and a bunch of other stuff by helping him in All Good Things.
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I like that Commander Riker, Tasha Yar, Q, (and I think I’m missing one?) all showed up as voice actors in XCOM 2.
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Sep 12, 2019 00:55
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I liked when Worf showed up in Saint's Row 2 and tried to kill me with a monster truck.
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Icon Of Sin posted:I like that Commander Riker, Tasha Yar, Q, (and I think I’m missing one?) all showed up as voice actors in XCOM 2. I got into Gargoyles back in the day because it had most of the TNG cast in it for some reason.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:11
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I don't know if the Jared episode of South Park aged well. The joke about giving kids aides is interesting now.
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GrandpaPants posted:I got into Gargoyles back in the day because it had most of the TNG cast in it for some reason. If anything, they better cast in gargoyles.
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Icon Of Sin posted:I like that Commander Riker, Tasha Yar, Q, (and I think I’m missing one?) all showed up as voice actors in XCOM 2. Troy was there too. She's the reaper leader. In fact all three of the human factions are led by a TNG actor which is hilarious.
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Mokinokaro posted:Troy was there too. She's the reaper leader. It owned hard when I played it and like every single new character I met was voiced by someone from TNG, just perfect fanservive.
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And Worf of course gets his rear end kicked by the end of his introductory mission. Though the turncoat aliens are an odd mix of Klingons, Jem'Hadar and Batman.
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Icon Of Sin posted:I like that Commander Riker, Tasha Yar, Q, (and I think I’m missing one?) all showed up as voice actors in XCOM 2. Worf, Counselor Troy, and Lt. Barclay FFS, and they're all the expansion, War of the Chosen
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Gaunab posted:I don't know if the Jared episode of South Park aged well. The joke about giving kids aides is interesting now. He shows up as a boss in the second South Park rpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioPFaSCK_y0&t=41s
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And Worf of course gets his rear end kicked by the end of his introductory mission. Though the turncoat aliens are an odd mix of Klingons, Jem'Hadar and Batman. "I did....nothing!" - Worf the Skirmisher
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Iron Crowned posted:Worf, Counselor Troy, and Lt. Barclay FFS, and they're all the expansion, War of the Chosen Denise Crosby (Tasha Yar) and John DeLancie (Q) are also in. Also apparently Dwight Schultz (Barclay) only voices a random soldier? Wtf.
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Sep 12, 2019 16:04
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Christ, if they brought on Patrick Stewart they would’ve been close to having the entire bridge.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Christ, if they brought on Patrick Stewart they would’ve been close to having the entire bridge. Apparently due to time constraints there was a plan for a 4th Chosen (heavy gunner) and Resistance faction (androids) that got scrapped.
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Iron Crowned posted:Apparently due to time constraints there was a plan for a 4th Chosen (heavy gunner) and Resistance faction (androids) that got scrapped. The androids would have been a neat nod to Apocalypse.
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Sep 12, 2019 17:00
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A commercial for Friends reminded me of a time when big name actors would guest star on sitcoms and it wouldn't be considered slumming it.
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Sep 14, 2019 06:54
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Gaunab posted:A commercial for Friends reminded me of a time when big name actors would guest star on sitcoms and it wouldn't be considered slumming it. Might be apocryphal, but I recall hearing that the reason Bruce Willis appeared on Friends was because he lost a bet to Matthew Perry wherein Bruce bet against his own movie doing well.
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Sep 14, 2019 07:51
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Blue Moonlight posted:Might be apocryphal, but I recall hearing that the reason Bruce Willis appeared on Friends was because he lost a bet to Matthew Perry wherein Bruce bet against his own movie doing well. To be fair it was a Matthew Perry movie that just happened to have Bruce Willis in it. If I was Bruce, I’d have bet against it too.
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