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So instead of making historic prohibitively expensive they'll make it completely pointless. It's amazing the depths these people will sink to before admitting they really don't want people to play Historic.
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The very gall, to stoop so low
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Sep 13, 2019 17:03
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GimmickMan posted:So instead of making historic prohibitively expensive they'll make it completely pointless.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:07
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I really like the idea of one month of historic before each new set.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:14
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axeil posted:15-20 random cards was a really bad way to do it. I hope they implement the backwards fill where they add old sets not in Arena starting with the most recent. That's a much more reasonable way to add cards. they're still adding new cards, and also adding entire sets to historic at a time would gently caress up historic a hell of a lot more than a small curated list every few months quote:NEW HISTORIC CARDS
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Sep 13, 2019 17:19
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Is it just me or does ELD seem like a low power set so far? I feel like when we were seeing WAR spoilers every rare seemed nasty but a lot of these new rares don't get me excited at all.
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Dracula Factory posted:Is it just me or does ELD seem like a low power set so far? I feel like when we were seeing WAR spoilers every rare seemed nasty but a lot of these new rares don't get me excited at all. It’s pretty common knowledge that they’ve been trying to depower standard for a while now.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:24
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I'm no expert for sure, but as a mid-tier player I think lowering the general power level is good. Having every match be full of bombs and "you better be able to counter/destroy/remove this NOW" cards is no bueno.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:27
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Low power standards are fine if you have access to Modern so you can get your big combos and synergies off.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:30
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zoux posted:Wait I want to be in the closed beta Sinteres posted:https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/mtg-arena-update-historic-2019-09-12
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Sep 13, 2019 17:36
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WAR was probably the highest power level we are gonna see for a while.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:37
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CapnAndy posted:Mill Yourself Jace. Magic the Gathering Arena: Go Mill Yourself
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Sep 13, 2019 17:37
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If it's anything like HS, the meta gets more and more overpowered as the sets increase and then drops upon rotation. First sets in a "block" are usually lower powered (and usually the first post-rotation meta is the best)
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Also saying things like "this looks like a low power set" is a great way to get quoted and made fun of 2 months from now. we just had ixalan, this is way more powerful than that.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:48
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I've never played standard before GRN, but I guess it makes sense for the first new set in a rotation to be a little weaker or else you start to get power creep. And I imagine after designing the game for this long they probably have a good idea of how to prevent creep.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:54
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it is also a truth in every single card game that people are extremely bad at card evaluation before a set is actually in people's hands
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Sep 13, 2019 17:56
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What were the biggest M20 misses? I don't think anyone saw Kethis coming.
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Sep 13, 2019 17:58
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people thought field of the dead would be terrible
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 the arena subreddit is still complaining. Unbelievable. They are not gonna make a format that kneecaps Standard. No weekly win credit is a much more acceptable alternative than the original proposal.
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axeil posted:
Yeah I was with them before but I think the compromise is pretty reasonable, even if I think Wizards still really really needs to stop doing this 'roll out a bad plan that's too greedy, then cave under pressure' thing because it's extremely toxic for the community and conditions people to riot all the time. I mean this is twice this summer alone. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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I'm a midrangey valu-town player at heart so I'm psyched that the big splash mechanic in this set is an assload of creatures with a free spell bolted on. It's wait and see on how many of them end up good though because yeah.flatluigi posted:it is also a truth in every single card game that people are extremely bad at card evaluation before a set is actually in people's hands and we also don't have a complete picture of what the other cards in the set are to support it and we don't know what's coming down the line in future sets.
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axeil posted:
It's not just weeklies. It's weeklies and dailies.
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You can get the daily/weekly wins from the historic ranked when it's offered though. So you just play mostly standard unless they're doing a historic event which is what Wizards wants you to be doing and now they can get you to do it without just pricing you out of historic. There was always going to be something pushing people back to standard and this is a really reasonable way to do it.
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GimmickMan posted:It's not just weeklies. It's weeklies and dailies. Who cares about dailies. You can still do quests in historic, which is nice. I think I'm mostly fine with these changes because I tend to finish off my 15 weekly wins pretty early in the week anyways, so the rest of the week I can just play historic to do the daily quests. Edit: The article also says Historic Ranked will count towards everything (dailies, quests, and weekly wins). So really if they just keep Historic Ranked up indefinitely, all our issues would be solved. qbert fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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Lagomorphic posted:
Yeah but that'll never stop the doofus that will pop off with  SET BAD???? having only seen half the cards.there's a lot of seeds in this set for Theros 2 too, multiple cards that care about enchantments, and mana intensive costs for Devotion if it comes back.
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Sep 13, 2019 18:20
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Adventures are great and food is bad, that's my opinion of the set so far
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I think they're going to do a cycle of standard ranked only when a new set comes out, then they bring in historic ranked once people hit the point where the meta is mostly known and they're just waiting for the new set.
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axeil posted:
These people don't understand why wotc is worried about historic in the least. And they don't care.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:It was also posted in German, pretty sure it's legit. uhhh have you seen the current Standard 2020 event? Not a single one of the Eldraine preview cards makes the format anything but terrible. At least half the "special" event formats re also terrible. I had zero faith in their ability to pick cards that make formats anything but terrible
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Spiderdrake posted:These people still complain about the mastery pass.
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Kashuno posted:Adventures are great and food is bad, that's my opinion of the set so far The announcer from Gauntlet Legends would like to have a word with you. Also there's going to be some crazy eater-of-food that makes the whole mechanic worthwhile until they have to ban it. Probably not 'til the next set though.
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Kashuno posted:Adventures are great and food is bad, that's my opinion of the set so far Food is ok. It was really fun in that town deck when I was able to pump my fae King up to absurd levels by saccing food to it
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Best thing about a bunch of Food in the format is that it makes mono-red worse.
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No Wave posted:They don't care about maximizing profits for wotc? guess they're not true fans. 
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qbert posted:Best thing about a bunch of Food in the format is that it makes mono-red worse. too slow imo
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:too slow imo The Goose on T1 into Oko T2 seems fast enough to me.
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GimmickMan posted:It's not just weeklies. It's weeklies and dailies. incorrect quote:HISTORIC PLAY QUEUE the win 15 games weekly and the gold/ICRs for daily wins won't get progressed, but you can still do the big 500g/750g+XP daily quests in historic
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 This feels strong enough to keep 1-2 copies of in an aggro deck. The possibilities for this are good. Turn 3 Drakuseth, early equip of a Colossus Hammer, having 2 green usable to make a 7/8 Voracious Hydra to kill something or make it 14/15. IF there's no answers to any of these the game is pretty much over.
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Waffleopolis posted:
It's too expensive for an aggro deck, and requires you to have even more expensive cards to run with it. An aggro deck doesn't want to be running enough land that a drak is not a dead card in any game where they don't draw this. A midrange deck maybe?
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Waffleopolis posted:
really makes me want to make a big spells deck again tbh    banefire rotates though edit: right, you're not getting the electrodominance cheat oops
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