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Expansion/Explosion is the card you're looking for, or any finale except the red one which is pretty funny.
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Sep 13, 2019 20:43
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Spiderdrake posted:Expansion/Explosion is the card you're looking for, or any finale except the red one which is pretty funny. oh hey expansion does work on irencrag huh I was remembering it being 3 cmc or less not 4 or less
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Sep 13, 2019 20:45
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No Wave posted:They don't care about maximizing profits for wotc? guess they're not true fans. If Historic takes off it will actually kneecap wotc's profits lol
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Sep 13, 2019 20:49
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Huh I guess you've already cast the Feat before Expansioning it, and then still have one more to cast after? I'll probably do this in Niv brawl or something really stupid. Eej posted:If Historic takes off it will actually kneecap wotc's profits lol 400 because 350 isn't a round number and a focus group fround it's "more fun" to pay in round numbers
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Sep 13, 2019 20:50
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 BTW, is posting it like this alright with everybody Is magic mirror real good
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Spiderdrake posted:Huh I guess you've already cast the Feat before Expansioning it, and then still have one more to cast after? i feel like it might be too inconsistent in singleton to ramp that hard so early, but also i'm absolutely making a big spells niv brawl deck with thousand year storm in it now that you mention it
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Sep 13, 2019 20:54
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Rhaegar posted:Alright, what can we all complain about next? I know right? Clearly rivers. loving Games Workshop.
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Sep 13, 2019 21:03
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I'd actually like to see a change where you have to tap 2 islands to get 1 blue mana.
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Sep 13, 2019 21:14
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Spiderdrake posted:Can't wait for 400 gem boosters of curated masters sets Really if Historic becomes the next Modern then the only people who truly lose are MTGFinance types and also your LGS. Because there's barely any reason to play paper magic at that point aside from the greater card library and the tabletop experience. zoux posted:Is magic mirror real good 
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Sep 13, 2019 21:14
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That gargoyle is real good.
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Only the checklands are rotating right? shocklands are still in for a while?
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odinson posted:Only the checklands are rotating right? shocklands are still in for a while? Until this time next year.
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Propaganda Hour posted:That gargoyle is real good. I'd say it has the potential to be good, if someone can build the right mill/control type deck around it. Grumgully I think will definitely see play in Standard. Makes Chandra, Acolyte of Flame insane and think of the synergies with like Skarrgan Hellkite, Legion Warboss, or Incubation Druid. qbert fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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Sep 13, 2019 21:22
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flatluigi posted:oh hey expansion does work on irencrag huh so, who's a judge?   cast irencrag feat. in response, cast expansion copying irencrag feat. a copy of irencrag feat goes on the stack. can you cast another spell that turn? the way my friends and I think it works is that at first it seems like you can, since copies aren't cast. then, it seems like you can't, since the copy says 'you can only cast one more spell' and it'll count the original irencrag as that spell. however, given that you've already cast both irencrags and are just resolving them, neither of them count as a spell you've cast after either irencrag resolved it's some fun thinking though
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I don't think that's gonna work.
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Sep 13, 2019 21:44
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I'm pretty sure it works, Expansion is cast then makes a copy, but happens after Feat is cast but before it revolves the "one more spell" limit. You can't for example use abilities that say "Your opponent can't cast spells" to counter a spell on the stack. I still don't know how Oko's ability works with Glass Casket/Deputy of Detention, though. I think it doesn't benefit, but I'm not too clear.
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flatluigi posted:so, who's a judge? That’s not how it works. The copy won’t see you cast the original, the original is cast, you copy it when it’s on the stack, then they both resolve and you get 14 red mana. I’m like 95% on that.
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flatluigi posted:so, who's a judge? I'm not a judge but I think you can copy and still cast another spell afterwards. Like you said the restriction doesn't go into effect until after the copy resolves. The original on the stack has already been cast, it's just resolving now so you haven't used up your additional cast for the turn.
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One things is for sure, whoever tests it on release day is either gonna feel really big brain or really foolish.
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qbert posted:I'm not a judge but I think you can copy and still cast another spell afterwards. Like you said the restriction doesn't go into effect until after the copy resolves. The original on the stack has already been cast, it's just resolving now so you haven't used up your additional cast for the turn. Bust Rodd posted:That’s not how it works. The copy won’t see you cast the original, the original is cast, you copy it when it’s on the stack, then they both resolve and you get 14 red mana. I’m like 95% on that. I probably worded it badly (phone typing!) but that is basically what we ended up agreeing on
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Folio of Fancies + Narset seems pretty deece.
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Sep 13, 2019 22:17
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Waffleopolis posted:Turn 3 Drakuseth Not sure what deck you're envisioning where you can both have 4 mana on turn 3 AND have three of it be red.
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Sep 13, 2019 22:23
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TheMaestroso posted:Not sure what deck you're envisioning where you can both have 4 mana on turn 3 AND have three of it be red. You just need 1 G/R source and either Paradise Druid or Incubation Druid on Turn 2. I'm also trying to brainstorm a 5-color deck that uses Faeburrow Elder as a ramp unit, Niv-Mizzet Reborn as a card draw and a steroid booster for Faeburrow Elder, Kenrith as a swiss army knife, Sphinx of the Guildpact as an additional means to power up Faeburrow Elder and be a fat flyer with some protection, and Golos as a ramp unit with a 5-color upside. I just need to figure out the rest. :/
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Sep 13, 2019 22:27
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Yes the casting restriction only goes into effect once a Feat resolves (in this case the copy will resolve first) once that happens anything already on the stack is fine since it's already been cast and you can cast one more spell (probably an Explosion but you do you).TheMaestroso posted:Not sure what deck you're envisioning where you can both have 4 mana on turn 3 AND have three of it be red. Big Red is an archtype that is occasionally good. Lagomorphic fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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 Cool it's that devoid card only not sucking rear end this time. Well not a full rear end. Still lolling they put the extra words on there to make the card slightly worse. Oh no if you have seven targets in EDH and seven red mana you're still playing a suboptimal card!
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Spiderdrake posted:
I seem to remember Kozilek's Return being a staple of at least one deck in the OGW/SOI/EDM Standard season. But that cost 2R and cast for free from your graveyard when you played a big spell.
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Could be decent in limited, but if you're going to put a 7 CMC card in your deck in Constructed, there are a lot more powerful/broken things you could be doing than dealing 7 damage divided among 3 targets.
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This might be obvious, but if you're someone who doesn't generally play ranked and you're trying to grind the standard 2020 event, doing ranked in bronze or silver is probably easier than the unranked queue. Even if it's roughly comparable, you may as well raise your rank in the process and kill two birds with one stone to get an extra pack or two at the end of the month.
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TheMaestroso posted:I seem to remember Kozilek's Return being a staple of at least one deck in the OGW/SOI/EDM Standard season. But that cost 2R and cast for free from your graveyard when you played a big spell. I'm referring to Serpentine Strike, which you wouldn't remember, but it was memorable to me since there was exactly 1 unspoiled rare in BFZ and it was this:  I just remember it because I was like "Where's that drat last rare?" and it took three scrolls to actually find it since nothing said rare other than the icon.
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Waffleopolis posted:You just need 1 G/R source and either Paradise Druid or Incubation Druid on Turn 2. Hybrid-mana permanents. They're multi-color even if you only paid one color for them.
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Is it me or is that blatantly Shrek on Barge In?
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Spiderdrake posted:
I think I prefer ember shot for that price.
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SalTheBard posted:Excuse the typo...I meant STAT tracking (win rate with a particular deck) https://mtgatool.com/ is what I use. It has stat tracking and overlays and more
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This event would almost be bearable if they didn't have the stupid anti-mirror match tech turned on. Since 75% of people are playing cavalcade, that means if you play any deck other than cavalcade, you get matched up vs cavalcade. And now my deck is doing this thing where if I get a cavalcade in my opening hand, it means I get 0 of my 20-drops to play with it. But every opening hand has 3-drops even though the only 3 drops are chandra, chandra's firespitter, and a couple legion warboss. Somehow those show up more often than hasty 1-drops but at least I'm apparently done with it, according to that tracker. If I miss any more XP, I'm just buying it gently caress this. A Moose fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Sep 14, 2019 |
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I've decided I do not like this Yarok deck. I don't know if I'm just mispiloting, but I've been mulliganing hard for Reefs and if you don't get one that deck eats poo poo against everything, from RDW to jank. Maybe my list just sucks? 4 Arboreal Grazer (WAR) 149 3 Swamp (ANA) 58 4 Leafkin Druid (M20) 178 4 Risen Reef (M20) 217 4 Swamp (ANA) 63 2 Dread Presence (M20) 96 1 Swamp (WAR) 257 2 Neoform (WAR) 206 2 Legion's End (M20) 106 2 Cloudkin Seer (M20) 54 2 Cavalier of Night (M20) 94 2 Yarok, the Desecrated (M20) 220 3 Hydroid Krasis (RNA) 183 2 Find // Finality (GRN) 225 1 Golgari Findbroker (GRN) 175 3 Nissa, Who Shakes the World (WAR) 169 1 Cavalier of Thorns (M20) 167 3 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253 4 Breeding Pool (RNA) 246 4 Watery Grave (GRN) 259 3 Temple of Mystery (M20) 255 2 Forest (ANA) 65 2 Hostage Taker (XLN) 223
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flatluigi posted:so, who's a judge? On behalf of Judge Academy and my sponsored membership paid by SCG I can confirm this works.
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Btw I've literally never seen Cavalcade in this event not even once. Maybe it's cause I'm slumming it in Gold 3.
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Somebudy post Sarkan 2020 deck /?
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Eej posted:Btw I've literally never seen Cavalcade in this event not even once. Maybe it's cause I'm slumming it in Gold 3. I ran into plenty of cavalcade in unranked, bronze, silver and gold. I wouldn't say it's as omnipresent as some people are making it out to be, but it has to be the single most common deck I've played against.
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