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Tom Clancy is Dead
Jul 13, 2011

Affi posted:

Holy poo poo Jason you're getting kinda messed up there... (patreon chapter latest)

Please spoiler Patreon posts even if you’re just cryptically foreshadowing stuff

Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Sep 9, 2019

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BadMedic
Jul 22, 2007

I've never actually seen him heal anybody.
Pillbug
(TWI) You guys lied to me, or I guess I wasn't specific enough so much goblin murder.

I stopped reading when rags' tribe was sieged in a citytown near riverfarm, not during the siege of liscor.. I just read the chapter with the big party between adventurers and goblins. How much further do I need to go?

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
just say the chapter title. 4.34 G etc etc

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

He Who Fights Monsters is amazing.

Here are two recent chapter titles with brief summaries:

Chapter 45: So Much For Atheism - MC meets his first god in the town square
Chapter 46: Blatant Manipulation - MC talks to his first god

I'm especially fond of the chapter 46 title. The actual content of the chapter makes the god seem completely reasonable and way nicer than they need to be. They help the MC out significantly and don't ask for anything in return.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

BadMedic posted:

(TWI) You guys lied to me, or I guess I wasn't specific enough so much goblin murder.

I stopped reading when rags' tribe was sieged in a citytown near riverfarm, not during the siege of liscor.. I just read the chapter with the big party between adventurers and goblins. How much further do I need to go?

Yeahhhh I don't recommend going any further if you don't like goblins dying. (big spoiler) it all comes to a head at the very end of volume 5, but also I doubt we've seen the last of goblins dying; it's just that after this is where public opinion begins to shift

Uldor
Feb 23, 2009

Gear... Fourth!
TWI - Patreon - I haven't read it but its THIRTY THOUSAND WORDS!. Piratebea is going to kill themselves at this rate :(

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
Just read through the public log of He Who Fights With Monsters. It's pretty fun; recommended if you like the idea of isekai fiction.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
^^ yeah Jason's cool

And pirateaba was so proud of doing a sub-10k word chapter recently.

Silynt
Sep 21, 2009
And she’s really loving lingering on a meaningless side story.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Silynt posted:

And she’s really loving lingering on a meaningless side story.
At least it's not Flos...?

e: I assumed this was a patreon thing, but if it's the witches, they're good and cool, although she still really needs an editor somehow

90s Cringe Rock fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Sep 10, 2019

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
what the hell, how is the whole witch business not one of the most interesting things to read about???

also its not even a side story, it's about the work's deuteragonist!

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
laken and his domain isnt a side character. i mean he has more writing than probably any non-erin/ryoka character

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


i like erin chapters too but it's okay to leave liscor sometimes

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
I hope the lakentown goblins work out. :ohdear:

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Man. Latest Practical Guide was great. Probably the best chapter since maybe forever. Had goosebumps when I figured out it was Hanno she was meeting


Also anyone not reading He who fights with monsters is doing themselves a disservice. Jason is great.

Musluk
May 23, 2011



Affi posted:

Also anyone not reading He who fights with monsters is doing themselves a disservice. Jason is great.

He sure is. Loved the goddess of knowledge episode. Though I'm kinda wary of where the nightingale plot is moving.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA

Musluk posted:

He sure is. Loved the goddess of knowledge episode. Though I'm kinda wary of where the nightingale plot is moving.

I thought (latest patreon chapter) that he was going to run into their hideyhole down in the sewers. But he never did! :(

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Musluk posted:

He sure is. Loved the goddess of knowledge episode. Though I'm kinda wary of where the nightingale plot is moving.

The Nightingale villains are super gross.

I'm super happy about how the Nightingale herself has handled things so far in the public chapters.

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



PracGuide: Was that a meet-cute? Cause that felt like a meet-cute.

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012
He who fights with monsters is good

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

So I just mostly caught up with a ton of Ward. A bunch of stuff happened and folks died (I still have one or two chapters to go until I'm fully caught up, but I'm wondering if someone else is still going to die, since this "option" should involve two Breakthrough deaths and it's not looking like Byron is going to die from his injuries. Possibly Sveta, since I think it's still unclear what long-term affect being hit by that "death touch" guy may have had.

Also it seems like Teacher was basically "a bad person on the right side" and trying to do a good thing in a selfish way that ensured he had power and control. The perspective from Saint's friend was actually pretty understandable and it's kinda hard to doubt the logic of working for Teacher when the alternative is the world ending again. It was also kinda neat seeing how Teacher had to genuinely struggle with figuring out how to deal with Contessa.

I'm not sure what to think regarding Dinah. I'm actually more inclined to trust Contessa than Dinah, because we've at least had non-zero insight into Contessa's experiences and potential mindset, while we know nothing about where Dinah is coming from (and, as Dinah herself admitted, it's deeply fishy that she's unwilling to submit to a thinker scan)

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
He Who Fights With Monsters is rad. Isekai LitRPG with a bit of Xianxia, but non-stereotypical enough to keep it interesting, especially the protagonist's personality. Like in ch. 35 when he challenges the asshats defacing the clinic. This kind of confrontation is pretty common in LitRPG's, showing off how righteous the protagonist is, but in any other one the thugs would've drastically underestimated the protag, and then gotten their poo poo kicked in. Cue massive justice boner.

Instead, Jason gets curbstomped, and while it's portrayed as possibly foolhardy for him to have done that, it's not portrayed as wrong, as a mistake. I like that. If the protagonist only stands up for what's right when he can win, it means less.

GlassElephant
Oct 25, 2009

Schwere Panzerabteilung 502
Discovered they were Glass Elephants, 27 APR 45

Cicero posted:

He Who Fights With Monsters is rad. Isekai LitRPG with a bit of Xianxia, but non-stereotypical enough to keep it interesting, especially the protagonist's personality. Like in ch. 35 when he challenges the asshats defacing the clinic. This kind of confrontation is pretty common in LitRPG's, showing off how righteous the protagonist is, but in any other one the thugs would've drastically underestimated the protag, and then gotten their poo poo kicked in. Cue massive justice boner.

Instead, Jason gets curbstomped, and while it's portrayed as possibly foolhardy for him to have done that, it's not portrayed as wrong, as a mistake. I like that. If the protagonist only stands up for what's right when he can win, it means less.


He could have used his essence abilities and quite possibly won, but he points out that would have been like pulling a knife in a fist fight, and very likely would have gotten higher ups in the church involved. That sort of escalatory spiral is super common in Xianxia as a way to keep pressure on the protagonist even while their powerlevel skyrockets, but he steps right around it.

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp
No guarantee either of winning even with essences since he isn't a trained fighter and those church of the healer guys probably know how to fight either by earning them, or buying a full set of iron rank essences.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The insane thing about He Who Fights With Monsters in general is that the characters are written like real people instead of what you would expect to be in a cultivation/litrpg/whatever you want to call this kind of story. Let's be honest, web serials in general kind of suck. Theres hundreds of these sorts of stories that all follow a very predictable arc and it's so refreshing to read one where the writer apparently realizes that the setting of a world where magic is real is the appeal, and not the honorable student destroying evil, or the genre-savvy sociopath and/or borderline moron that's really common in the western version of these kinds of things

Larry Parrish fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Sep 14, 2019

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Larry Parrish posted:

The insane thing about He Who Fights With Monsters in general is that the characters are written like real people instead of what you would expect to be in a cultivation/litrpg/whatever you want to call this kind of story. Let's be honest, web serials in general kind of suck. Theres hundreds of these sorts of stories that all follow a very predictable arc and it's so refreshing to read one where the writer apparently realizes that the setting of a world where magic is real is the appeal, and not the honorable student destroying evil, or the genre-savvy sociopath and/or borderline moron that's really common in the western version of these kinds of things

What I like about Forge of Destiny is that it uses the whole "following the life of a person living in a fantasy setting" idea without the power fantasy/wish-fulfillment basis nearly all of those stories tend to have. So you get to enjoy the whole "'organically' exploring a well-written fantasy setting" aspect (that is kinda uniquely made possible by web serials, since they don't need to tell full narrative arcs in book-sized pieces) without all the nonsense. It makes the protagonist strong/important enough to be involved with the big players without making them feel inappropriate to the setting.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
TWI Non-patreon: :supaburn: :supaburn: :supaburn:

Hungry
Jul 14, 2006

So, I've been writing a web serial for almost nine months now, called Katalepsis.

It's an urban fantasy story / lesbian supernatural soap opera, with a little bit of a horror coating. I didn't want to link it here until I was certain I'd be sticking with it, so here it is. New chapters currently every Saturday, though I'm trying to build up to twice a week instead. I'm not an incredible writer or anything, and I guess the story can get a little grisly at times, so it might not be to everyone's taste. If anybody does check it out, I sincerely hope you enjoy it.

Kaja Rainbow
Oct 17, 2012

~Adorable horror~

Hungry posted:

So, I've been writing a web serial for almost nine months now, called Katalepsis.

It's an urban fantasy story / lesbian supernatural soap opera, with a little bit of a horror coating. I didn't want to link it here until I was certain I'd be sticking with it, so here it is. New chapters currently every Saturday, though I'm trying to build up to twice a week instead. I'm not an incredible writer or anything, and I guess the story can get a little grisly at times, so it might not be to everyone's taste. If anybody does check it out, I sincerely hope you enjoy it.

You had me at lesbian supernatural soap opera.

SerSpook
Feb 13, 2012




Hungry posted:

So, I've been writing a web serial for almost nine months now, called Katalepsis.

It's an urban fantasy story / lesbian supernatural soap opera, with a little bit of a horror coating. I didn't want to link it here until I was certain I'd be sticking with it, so here it is. New chapters currently every Saturday, though I'm trying to build up to twice a week instead. I'm not an incredible writer or anything, and I guess the story can get a little grisly at times, so it might not be to everyone's taste. If anybody does check it out, I sincerely hope you enjoy it.

This is pretty good. I've been reading for the last little bit and am on 1.4. Really gotta say I really dig your characterization of Raine so far. In a lot of respects I really dislike her, but it all seems completely intended. Evelyn even calls her out on her poo poo when we first meet her too.

The best way I have to put it, is that she doesn't seem to really think of others and how they will react and feel about stuff? Not in a mean way, but in a thoughtless way. Like, she pushes Heather to tell her about her hallucinations on the hunch that this is actually occult related, without really considering that maybe she doesn't like talking about it. Or when she blabbed all that poo poo to Evelyn, and generally that entire first meeting with Evelyn.

I appreciate how everyone acted in that scene.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
I ran into that the other week. At first I was a bit put off by the premise of "mentally ill character is actually just seeing the Hidden Truth," which I've run into way too many times and is often terrible, but the story worked pretty well. Certainly well enough for me to binge it and add these useless lesbians to my rss reader.

I'm still thinking they should just trust the eye, though. It didn't mean to hurt her, and I'm sure they can work something out. It seems cool and helpful!

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Hungry posted:

So, I've been writing a web serial for almost nine months now, called Katalepsis.

It's an urban fantasy story / lesbian supernatural soap opera, with a little bit of a horror coating. I didn't want to link it here until I was certain I'd be sticking with it, so here it is. New chapters currently every Saturday, though I'm trying to build up to twice a week instead. I'm not an incredible writer or anything, and I guess the story can get a little grisly at times, so it might not be to everyone's taste. If anybody does check it out, I sincerely hope you enjoy it.

That's awesome, I will put you in the OP and do my best to get to reading this when I get a chance.

Also,

Kaja Rainbow posted:

You had me at lesbian supernatural soap opera.

Fajita Queen fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Sep 17, 2019

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
I don't think that's how clever social maneuvering or high social IQ look, HWFWM.

Hungry
Jul 14, 2006

Kaja Rainbow posted:

You had me at lesbian supernatural soap opera.

I have gathered it's not exactly a common genre.

SerSpook posted:

This is pretty good. I've been reading for the last little bit and am on 1.4.

Very glad you're enjoying it so far! I don't want to prejudice anybody's responses by explaining my intentions, but I will say that I'm very pleased with how Raine seems to have affected readers. Characterisation is a difficult balance.

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Certainly well enough for me to binge it and add these useless lesbians to my rss reader.

You binged it? Goodness. I don't know how to respond to that. Thank you, I'm flattered you've enjoyed it enough to want to continue reading.

The Shortest Path posted:

That's awesome, I will put you in the OP and do my best to get to reading this when I get a chance.

Thank you!

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


Hungry posted:

I don't want to prejudice anybody's responses by explaining my intentions, but I will say that I'm very pleased with how Raine seems to have affected readers. Characterisation is a difficult balance.

Hey, thanks for writing a cool supernatural thing! I'm through the first two arcs, and it's a pretty fun read. ^^

I don't know if it's at all helpful, but here are some random stream-of-consciousness reactions and remarks I wrote down while going through it:

My impression of Raine went through a weird trajectory- I initially wrote her off as a manic pixie dream-girl esque fantasy fulfillment thing, but I'll happily concede that that was mostly inaccurate since her entire character is apparently built around intentionally striving to be the cool awesome fantasy girlfriend for other people, even when that's usually a terrible idea. That having been said, even though her kinda-sorta relationship with Heather is cute I am incredibly distrustful of her, and my expectation is for her to either secretly have been a terrible person all along, or for her to end up having tons of messed-up skeletons in her closet. I think that expectation is largely conditioned by her being absurdly awesome and friendly compared to even normal people, which presents as a really weird red flag when the three other characters we've seen a lot of have all been super-messed up and dysfunctional sorts.

I'm still having trouble pinning down Evelyn's voice. If you were to give me a line or physical reaction out of context I could probably tell you if Raine or Heather said it, but Evelyn is a bit of a blur. I suspect this is largely because her mood swings and tendency to obfuscate her actual personality with learned/rehearsed behavior means that her personality can deviate wildly from scene to scene or even sentence to sentence, which is logically fine, but it's still a bit disorienting. I think the bit in the library after they saw the Eye was the best example of this- when Evelyn had her half-breakdown when Heather came to chat and wasn't mad, I genuinely struggled to picture what her affect or body language was like from sentence to sentence. (Note: writing characters in a consistent voice is super-duper hard, especially when it's a bipolar weirdo person with issues, so I'd honestly not sweat it.)

My favorite scenes are consistently the ones focusing on interpersonal interactions and dumb soap opera/slice of life stuff, followed semi-closely by the Maisie plotline and distantly by figuring out what the Eye wants. The cults/werewolves/university stuff is less engaging to me, although that might just be down to personal taste or the fact that they haven't had much time in the spotlight. It did feel a bit weird that multiple friend-kidnapping murder cults are operating in town, and they're all just like "Eh, yeah, so we have a cult problem- just don't go anywhere without an armed escort and it's no big deal," and Heather kinda shrugs and goes along with it.


All in all I had a lot of fun reading, so thanks for being a cool writer person and sharing a neat story with us!

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
I read through chapter 4.2 of useless lesbian ghost adventures on a plane flight today. It was good.

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
More concrete thoughts on it now that I'm more than half awake:

I expected to get pretty loving sick and tired of Heather's issues, but then she magically started to make progress on them just in time. This ended up being a common pattern throughout the story, with plot elements consistently being resolved right around when the lack of resolution would have become tiresome, which is a nice change of pace from most web serials.

Calling them disaster lesbians is sorta unfair. They go through the brief period of "does this girl who is blatantly flirting with me reciprocate my feelings????" but then they talk about it and move onto just being a couple who are super into each other.

The characters are mostly great. I like the whole flow of "Raine is either the magical perfect girlfriend here to save the MC or an abusive predator" to "oh she's more of a well-meaning rear end in a top hat" to realizing that the criticisms people give of her are actually kinda true but incomplete, and Raine is actually a reasonably well-rounded character that can't just be summed up in a caricature or two. Lozzie's the only character so far that's just made me go eh, but I guess she hasn't had much screen time. I think one of the big successes of the story is that a lot of the plot beats are kicked off by characters doing something stupid, but I never go "augh why would you do that?" and instead it's something where it'd feel out of character for them not to do the stupid thing.

Reading about Heather puking every other page does get to be a bit much. Also I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be concluding that she must have some sort of magical healing thing going on to not be dead or at least horribly malnourished?

Musluk
May 23, 2011



I thought she was malnourished.

Uldor
Feb 23, 2009

Gear... Fourth!
TWI Patreon: Holy poo poo, that took a freaking turn.

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A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Uldor posted:

TWI Patreon: Holy poo poo, that took a freaking turn.

pirateaba actually posted this in the discord server afterward:

Califor and Belavierr made a deal. To save Nanette from being killed by Belavierr, Califor saved Riverfarm. It was a threat. A life for a life, hence Califor's last words. Belavierr doesn't often make one-sided threats. But she did to avoid her own death and save her daughter. No body-swapping, no grand scheme. Just the oldest trade.

extremely loving :yikes:

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