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e X posted:That honestly doesn't sound all that great... I don't really think Carcer's original character really works any longer, either. I especially do not want to hear a white Vimes giving his "the system works" speech to a black actor.
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Rand Brittain posted:I don't really think Carcer's original character really works any longer, either. I especially do not want to hear a white Vimes giving his "the system works" speech to a black actor. Maybe, but there is really no reason to use him at all. And what I am worried about is that his character doesn't sound very Pratchett, but it doesn't sound pretty generic prestige TV drama. edit: Like, and I admit that might be somewhat of a stretch, but the image that comes immediately to mind is him trying to "break" Carrot, because he is so idealistic and naive. e X fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 15:24
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David Mitchell as death.
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Jerry Cotton posted:David Mitchell as death. Gods, yes. It'd be absurd and delightful. But who'd be Albert?
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Sep 12, 2019 17:31
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papa horny michael posted:Rob Brydon He has to play the imp in the dis-organizer so that he can get some mileage from his tiny-man-trapped-in-a-box voice.
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Mad Hamish posted:Gods, yes. It'd be absurd and delightful. But who'd be Albert? Is David Jason still alive and not in jail for sex crimes?
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Sep 12, 2019 17:41
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David Mitchell has too many chins imo. Death ideally only has the one.
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Sep 12, 2019 17:53
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tooterfish posted:David Mitchell has too many chins imo. Death ideally only has the one. Like, are they going to have death on-screen as just a guy with skull face paint? If so, that's a problem, yeah. In that case it's either Bruce or one of the Chuckle Brothers, can't remember which one.
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Doesn't matter, I'll still be able to hear the extra chins! And I hate to keep talking ideals, but ideally you'd want the Chuckle Brother that isn't dead. It's hard to get a decent day's work out people who've shuffled off the old mortal coil. I blame the unions.
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tooterfish posted:Doesn't matter, I'll still be able to hear the extra chins! Less make-up.
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True. It's a big role though, he might be a bit stiff for the part. And you can forget about riding the horse, no one's signing off on that. Not after what happened to Reeve.
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tooterfish posted:True. Barnacle Jim as pale horse.
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I feel like most voices for Death flop because they try to do intense bass and this doesn't really work when you actually have to hear it. I like the voice they used for Death in that one recording of Thief of Time with a bunch of different actors. He didn't try to pitch deep but just went incredibly calm and uninflected. (I would really love to see some alternate recordings of Discworld novels, maybe with a full cast to do the voices. I'd particularly like to see the witches as narrated by women.) (Also, Angua should have a strong Eastern-European-aristocracy accent. It bugs me when the books give her a lower-class British voice.)
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Rand Brittain posted:strong Eastern-European-aristocracy accent. You mean flawless French, English, German, and Russian? (And possibly the language of their home country.)
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Rand Brittain posted:(Also, Angua should have a strong Eastern-European-aristocracy accent. It bugs me when the books give her a lower-class British voice.) I'd have assumed her not having a distinctive accent would been part of her wanting to distance herself from her family. They were very... traditional in that regard.
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Rand Brittain posted:I feel like most voices for Death flop because they try to do intense bass and this doesn't really work when you actually have to hear it. Christopher Lee did a great job. So did Ian Richardson. Sadly they are neither of them with us now. James Earl Jones could do it - Death should sound a lot like Vader but with slight echo instead of electronic processing - but he is pushing 90 and I wouldn't want them to have to recast halfway through.
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Rand Brittain posted:I feel like most voices for Death flop because they try to do intense bass and this doesn't really work when you actually have to hear it. Death's voice is described as the sound of leaden coffin lids slamming closed and that feels like hella bass is called for, though? I don't feel that it has to be super deep - I did earlier say that David Mitchell would be hilarious - but I can understand why they often go for it.
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Christopher Lee was absolutely the best voice for Death. He had the perfect strength behind it. I feel like Ian Richardson was slightly too weak at that point. GO’s Death with Brian Cox was terrible.
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Rand Brittain posted:I don't really think Carcer's original character really works any longer, either. I especially do not want to hear a white Vimes giving his "the system works" speech to a black actor. Well, he's played by a black actor because they chose to cast a black actor. And why doesn't Carcee's original character work any longer? Not every villian has to have a sympathetic backstory justifying his villainy. You can still just have a bad guy who's a bad guy.
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Camrath posted:Bit worried by how young the actres they've picked for Sybil is. She's meant to be a matronly type in (I'm guesing) her 40s. The big thing about Sybil is that she's supposed to be heavy. Lara Rossi looks...not heavy. narm00 posted:From the press releases, it looks like they're taking bits from across the Watch books, including Night Watch. E.g.: we've got a newbie Carrot joining a disempowered Watch (Guards! Guards!), which has Angua and Cheery (who joined in Men at Arms), with Angua as Carrot's mentor. And I'm really not sure how I feel about that.
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Fighting Trousers posted:And I'm really not sure how I feel about that. Depends what she's mentoring him in 
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Beachcomber posted:Depends what she's mentoring him in Oh, Angua's definitely more experienced than Carrot on multiple fronts, wink wink nudge nudge. Which may be why the idea of her mentoring him feels weird. When a mentor figure also becomes a sexual partner, that starts getting into some tricky territory. Plus, Angus was a diversity hire after Guards, Guards. Why would a female werewolf who's always been running away from something be a part of the shabby boys club of the pre-Carrot Night Watch?
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Fighting Trousers posted:Why would a female werewolf who's always been running away from something be a part of the shabby boys club of the pre-Carrot Night Watch? If I pare the question down to just that, it seems pretty obvious that the answer is 'because no one else would take her'. It's just changing the timing of when she joined the Guards.
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Fighting Trousers posted:When a mentor figure also becomes a sexual partner, that starts getting into some tricky territory. That’s already the case in the book I feel, here they just switched the roles.
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The Angua/Carrot dynamic was that they both slightly confounded each other, highlighting each other's blindspots, while helping them become more aware of how to deal with the problems of those blindspots. They benefit each other, and either could be the others superior provided they listened to and respected the other.
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Fighting Trousers posted:Why would a female werewolf who's always been running away from something be a part of the shabby boys club of the pre-Carrot Night Watch? I could be wrong, but I'm getting the impression that this thing is going to start with Carrot joining an already expanded City Watch.
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Avalerion posted:That’s already the case in the book I feel, here they just switched the roles. True, though Carrot comes across as so simple and naïve (even though he isn't, really), it never really read that way to me. And there's the whole "trying to giftwrap the city" angle. He wants her to love A-M just as much as he does, but what keeps her there is him (and to a lesser degree, Vimes). Epicurius posted:I could be wrong, but I'm getting the impression that this thing is going to start with Carrot joining an already expanded City Watch. Yeah, this is obviously a remix, not an adaptation, which seems like a missed opportunity, but oh well.
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Good omens suffered for being too close to the books so I’m not opposed to them taking a lighter approach here. Especially if it means not having to wait for say Cherry and Detridus.
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So long as we get the dwarfs vs trolls confrontation from Men at Arms. "It Troll New Year".
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Avalerion posted:Especially if it means not having to wait for say Cherry and Detridus. No casting for Detritus yet, and Cheery isn't being described as a dwarf in any of the marketing stuff so far.
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Oh ...well that’s def going too far then, could be another Rook situation which would suck.quote:...Constable Cheery, the ingenious non-binary forensics expert, ostracized by their kin and finding a new home and identity... The ostracized by their kin sounds like she’s still a dwarf though, or who else would be “their kin”. And there’s her name itself too. Avalerion fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Sep 16, 2019 |
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If they're gonna have Detritus at all he really needs to be a recurring minor antagonist for the first season.
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Avalerion posted:The ostracized by their kin sounds like she’s still a dwarf though, or who else would be “their kin”. And there’s her name itself too. Could just be a person disowned by their family for being non-binary.
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Epicurius posted:No casting for Detritus yet, and Cheery isn't being described as a dwarf in any of the marketing stuff so far. They gonna get their guhooloog heads kicked in if they don't have Detritus.
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Avalerion posted:The ostracized by their kin sounds like she’s still a dwarf though Cheery is ostracised for presenting as female.
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Found one more bit that I'm not sure how to feel about : Sybil 's a what now?  quote:Lara Rossi (Crossing Lines) as as the formidable Lady Sybil Ramkin, last scion of Ankh-Morpork’s nobility, who’s trying to fix the city’s wrongs with her chaotic vigilantism; Though at least dwarves aren't cut entirely, Carrot's still explicitly called out as being raised by them. Avalerion fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Sep 16, 2019 |
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Dragonwoman? I guess they decided Terry would have had some things to say about the MCU? Not feeling great about this. I'll watch it but I'm gonna be calibrating the hell out of my expectations.
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Okay, this is starting to sound loving awful tbh.
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