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I've only worked one place that did bonuses. w/r/t interviewing: pretty bummed, this place I have been going back and forth with for like, 3 weeks (because they are so slow to respond) isn't willing to move at all on total comp, so even though the job looks dope I am going to have to reject the offer.
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Comradephate posted:I've only worked one place that did bonuses. could ask for better benefits maybe if it's not too terrible? dunno
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Sep 15, 2019 17:10
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I'd like to start going on the conference circuit giving talks about the work I've done over the past few years, but a lot of it isn't public yet. This is infrastructure engineering stuff at BigCo, though it would obviously affect the product too. I'd need to go through various pre-clearance approvals and stuff to make it happen, as well as actual executives deciding "yeah whatever." Any tips on navigating that particular can of worms?
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Sep 15, 2019 22:17
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if you have a good manager they can endorse it to whatever director or vp needs to sign off. for any bigco going on talks makes the manager look good and helps the director/vp with visibility and recruiting so it's win/win/win really
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Sep 15, 2019 22:32
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From what I hear, if you are working for Apple you will "enjoy" the process of getting it cleared, but other Big tech cos send people out to conferences quite easily (as long as you are careful not to talk about confidential stuff).
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Sep 16, 2019 06:30
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i used to do a lot of recruiting at universities and would occasionally gives talks about relevant tech stuff. one time during q&a some kid started a reddit thread "documenting" what i was saying. only he was just making stuff up whole cloth, saying we were gonna cancel this and that feature or whatever, etc. about 30 minutes afterwards i got a call from the director who was like "WTF YOU IDIOT WHY DID YOU SAY ALL THIS STUFF?" which obvs had me really confused until i figured out what had happened. we didn't hire that particular kid.
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Sep 16, 2019 08:45
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the only thing better would have been if that kid wasn't even at the q&a
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Sep 16, 2019 09:04
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ShadowHawk posted:I'd like to start going on the conference circuit giving talks about the work I've done over the past few years, but a lot of it isn't public yet. This is infrastructure engineering stuff at BigCo, though it would obviously affect the product too. my last two attempts to speak at conferences, in two different jobs, involved getting my talk boiled down to literally nothing, and i ultimately did not speak at all if you want to have cool poo poo to present at conferences, work on open sores
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Sep 16, 2019 09:46
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Cold on a Cob posted:i’m working with them right now. did the meet in person thing, wasn’t a huge deal and took like 45 mins. got two upcoming interviews from them so far. i haven’t interviewed since 2014 so we will see what happens if i whiff lol. update: they are pushy as fuuuuuck. idk how different they are from other recruiters in this respect but the first job i did well on an interview with (out of only two) they are all up on my rear end about taking it even though i have reservations about office location and want to take time to think about it. the company hasn't even produced an offer yet and i've been totally honest that i 1) don't shop offers around 2) won't drag it out because i've been on the interviewer side and understand with smaller companies an open offer means recruitment efforts have to pause
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Sep 16, 2019 16:07
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Cold on a Cob posted:1) don't shop offers around y tho
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Sep 16, 2019 20:20
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JawnV6 posted:y tho because i'm too nice 
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Sep 16, 2019 20:21
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Cold on a Cob posted:because i'm too nice this will cost you, over your career, hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars this is comparable to giving away your house to a homeless person, except that most homeless people are better people than the executive you are giving money to it is your moral imperative to extract as much money from your corporate overlords as possible. give it to charity if you want but get it away from rich people Arcsech fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Sep 16, 2019 |
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Sep 16, 2019 20:27
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If you don't flay those bastards for all they are worth then you are an enabler
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Sep 16, 2019 20:30
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also: i thought i was doing a final round today of combined technical and behavioural but i was wrong and it was just 2 hours of behavioural  i was not ready and whiffed on at least one of the questions but i don't think i blew it completely. and of course now that i'm home and calmer i'm thinking of better answers to many of their questions. assuming they liked me, hopefully they'll have me back for the technical portion very soon so i can get an offer/pfo quickly since i'll have that other offer within a few days. Arcsech posted:this will cost you, over your career, hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars living in canada? completely agreed 
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Sep 16, 2019 20:32
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Cold on a Cob posted:because i'm too nice Last shopping around I did, I squeezed out a 30k raise total comp "I don't want this car I could have for 25 mins work. Or a year of loving around" I was getting paid about 50k / hour for the negotiating I was doing, effectively
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Sep 16, 2019 20:37
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Cold on a Cob posted:also: i thought i was doing a final round today of combined technical and behavioural but i was wrong and it was just 2 hours of behavioural was this like a 2 hour personality test or what? Do they ask you specific team/workplace scenarios for the job or is it some abstract bullshit I can't figure out how I'd respond to hear a company wanted to give me a personality test or behavioral interview
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Sep 16, 2019 20:41
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qirex posted:was this like a 2 hour personality test or what? Do they ask you specific team/workplace scenarios for the job or is it some abstract bullshit there are companies that don't use behavioral interviewing?
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Sep 16, 2019 20:44
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hobbesmaster posted:there are companies that don't use behavioral interviewing? My first job out of plutocrat school I got with a firm handshake and forthrightness like a drat Boomer caricature
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Sep 16, 2019 20:46
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it was pretty standard stuff you'd get in non-tech interviewing like "Tell me about a time in which you had a conflict and how it was resolved" i hate those questions because sometimes they don't apply (i haven't had any memorable interpersonal conflict at work since, no joke, 2010)
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Sep 16, 2019 20:46
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hobbesmaster posted:there are companies that don't use behavioral interviewing?
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Sep 16, 2019 20:46
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qirex posted:I get lots of questions about how I work and how I deal with challenging scenarios, etc. is that what you're talking about? that is what behavioral interview questions are. see: https://www.thebalancecareers.com/behavioral-job-interview-questions-2059620
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Sep 16, 2019 20:49
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I have literally never heard it called that
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Sep 16, 2019 20:53
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Cold on a Cob posted:it was pretty standard stuff you'd get in non-tech interviewing like "Tell me about a time in which you had a conflict and how it was resolved" is an acceptable answer “buddy, this is Canada”?
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Sep 16, 2019 21:03
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:is an acceptable answer “buddy, this is Canada”? but then you have be prepared to answer whether you settled it over curling or hockey
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Sep 16, 2019 21:05
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you either tell the 2010 story, you go "I tend to de-escalate things before then" with an example of it, or you invent a story (where people stand up and clap)
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Sep 16, 2019 21:20
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hobbesmaster posted:but then you have be prepared to answer whether you settled it over curling or hockey i actually pulled the back of the interviewers shirt over their head and started wailing on them while a ref watched until the interviewer fell down, then broke it up MononcQc posted:you either tell the 2010 story, you go "I tend to de-escalate things before then" with an example of it, or you invent a story (where people stand up and clap) yeah i don't even remember what i said tbh. it's gone from my head, memento style
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Sep 16, 2019 21:23
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the "tell me about a time when" questions are only really useful for determining whether the candidate is sufficiently industrious and organized as to practice answers to those questions beforehand. i hate it, especially in the context of hiring computer touchers.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:38
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bob dobbs is dead posted:My first job out of plutocrat school I got with a firm handshake and forthrightness like a drat Boomer caricature see i always feel like a failure because i had to go thru technical sessions like some normie and the only pluting i did was talking to a fraternity alumni who worked at the same company and explained how the behavioral side was judged
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Sep 16, 2019 23:51
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Fiedler posted:the "tell me about a time when" questions are only really useful for determining whether the candidate is sufficiently industrious and organized as to practice answers to those questions beforehand. i hate it, especially in the context of hiring computer touchers. i for one am shocked employers look for industrious and organized candidates
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Sep 17, 2019 00:30
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Pie Colony posted:i for one am shocked employers look for industrious and organized candidates
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Sep 17, 2019 00:35
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since I'm not a developer most of my time is "behavioral" questions when I interview, it's a good chance to ask them about their teams and process and look for red flags. also many people will think you're a great candidate if you ask 2 good questions then nod and say platitudes like "I've been there" while they talk about themselves for the whole 30 minute slot
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Sep 17, 2019 00:46
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qirex posted:since I'm not a developer most of my time is "behavioral" questions when I interview, it's a good chance to ask them about their teams and process and look for red flags. also many people will think you're a great candidate if you ask 2 good questions then nod and say platitudes like "I've been there" while they talk about themselves for the whole 30 minute slot I've been there
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Sep 17, 2019 00:59
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JawnV6 posted:see i always feel like a failure because i had to go thru technical sessions like some normie and the only pluting i did was talking to a fraternity alumni who worked at the same company and explained how the behavioral side was judged The tech majors have learned their lesson with plutocrat idiots I like to think I am not an idiot but lol
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Sep 17, 2019 01:37
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I think it was here I learned the tip, but I had an interview today and they asked me for my salary and I hit them with the “I’d like to wait to talk salary until after there is an offer” and I didn’t immediately get thrown out! hooray?
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Sep 17, 2019 01:54
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qirex posted:since I'm not a developer most of my time is "behavioral" questions when I interview, it's a good chance to ask them about their teams and process and look for red flags. also many people will think you're a great candidate if you ask 2 good questions then nod and say platitudes like "I've been there" while they talk about themselves for the whole 30 minute slot no no shush don't give up my secret
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Sep 17, 2019 02:36
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i know damnit, a knowing smirk and a slow, sad nod is like 90% of my technique 
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Sep 17, 2019 02:37
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workbridge update: continue to be too pushy. if i don't take this offer that i've been interviewing through them, i'm gonna tell them to take a hike.
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Sep 17, 2019 16:59
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tak posted:Interesting. We're a pretty small company in a small city in the Canadian prairies with some huge global customers, and our cloud costs are surprisingly low (to me anyway). And no IT other than the guy who fixes the sales and support phones, everything is managed (gcp) What part of the prairies? I've been trying to find a way to get to Saskatchewan that doesn't involve hiding out in day old timbits deliveries.
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Sep 17, 2019 17:23
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Rex-Goliath posted:no no shush don't give up my secret also ask about upstream managers
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why do recruiters give me no information on what the company is or does and a paragraph about investors and where they used to work. what the hell do I care about any of that?
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