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Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Hello friends. Let’s talk UltraSeven Evolution, 1998.

Now we can begin this for real. The two 94 specials, they were cute. They were good fun and cute and all that. They told good environmentally minded messages that still matter to this day, even if they were botched to Hell and back. But as far as carrying the spirit of the 1967 original, the complexity and mature story? No, it failed miserably in that respect. The three direct to video ‘98 movies, picking up some amount of time later, aren’t a total patch on the ‘94 stuff. Over all they’re still a touch too slow, unsure how to handle the full hour length they have, and the effects aren’t quite up to snuff yet.

Ultimately this doesn’t mean that it’s bad. Unlike the ‘94 specials, this one gives a drat about character and actively probes very good, very fun questions. Mostly. We’ll hit a goose egg in the middle but that’s fine. Before we can get started, we have some backstory to cover. Now, a lot of this is stuff we don’t actually learn until the ‘99 series, but it’s worth exploring here.

Because you see, we have a new Ultra Garrison. Top to bottom, a brand new team have taken the reigns and will be the primary cast for the rest of the series. At some point in the time skip between the ‘94 and ‘98 specials, the Ultra Garrison got caught up in a nasty battle. Without UltraSeven to save them, things went south. Togo and Risa were both killed, and in the end the best Furuhashi could manage was to force the aliens to retreat, to the disgust of Kaji. In the wake of the disaster and his growing age, Furuhashi stepped down as the Captain of the Ultra Garrison, becoming one of the Staff Members of the Terrestrial Defense Force, alongside Kaji.

Kaji would turn his back on the Ultra Garrison, having little to do with them and focusing on his own projects instead. We won’t be hearing from him this series, so we’ll put him to the side for now. Instead Furuhashi puts together a new Ultra Garrison, with the new Captain being Shiragane, a stern and brave officer who believes in doing what is moral, VS what is legal. Filling out the ranks are his four subordinate officers, Satomi, Kazamori, Shima and Mizuno. Mizuno is the one who generally gets the least to do, as he’s the team smart guy. He devises plans and figures out the tech poo poo.

Shima and Kazamori are two men of the same card, though Shima is slightly more mature of the two. Shima believes that his fists can do the talking most of the time and doesn’t think through his actions very well. Kazamori is the youngest of the team and the most inexperienced but has a heroic spirit. When he grows up, you can tell he’ll go far. Finally though is his counterpart, the sole woman of the team and the biggest rear end kicker, Satomi. Satomi is easily the one who gets the most to do across the three ‘98 specials, be it in action or character, and is up there for one of the most important characters of the franchise that isn’t an Ultra.

Now you might notice, that’s a lot of words about things that aren’t the actual show. This is because this is the crew who will be with us from now on. These five, with some additions as we go, will be following us along. And while, spoiler alert, Shima and Mizuno don’t get much to do, they are fun and the others have a lot going on. We’ll be covering that as we go. We’ll also be covering just how loving good UltraSeven is as a hero in his own context, compared to and contrasting with western super heroes.

Speaking of, the last time we saw UltraSeven, dude got caught in the middle of a city exploding and vanished. His fate left uncertain, we open the ‘98 saga with Dan Moroboshi having a nightmare of an explosion consuming him. He awakens in the home that took him in after those events, the home to a mother and daughter. He has lost his memory, and to cover this now, the family he lives with knows drat well who he is. They know exactly who he is, as UltraSeven, but want to keep him close regardless.

This is because, as we’ll learn at the end of the episode, the father of this family abandoned them. Not dead, not whisked away in some alien experiment, just straight up left them. So the mother, finding Dan injured and without his memories, brought him into her home to help him. Eventually he just slotted naturally into place, acting as a proper father figure for her little girl and filling the hole in her own heart. Dan himself is none the wiser, but feels an emptiness inside, like he needs to be doing more as the world around them grows worse and worse. It’s a very sad situation because you can understand why the two are reluctant to return his items to him, to remind him of who he is. Both because of the state they found him in to begin with, and because they fear that he’ll abandon them if he remembers. And, well...spoiler warning, but they’re right. Though Ultraman Zero could have told you that.

But you can also understand Dan’s pain at the loss of self and his yearning to reclaim his own life. Maybe he would be happier living as a normal human with this family? Maybe he would be safer. Maybe he could find his own fulfilment here. But it wouldn’t be HIS life. It wouldn’t be HIS choice. In the present, Dan works odd jobs, at the moment he is helping an archeology dig. When some business suited douche bags come down to threaten and shut down the dig, he personally steps up and makes them back down. Dan, in the 98 series and going forward, is finally back as the main character. This is when we first meet the daughter figure, who rushes in when the lead archeologist starts questioning Dan about who he is. She drags him off and the two talk amicably, Dan very easily slotting in as the parental figure she wants.

During this we catch up with the Ultra Garrison, though we don’t learn the exact fate of the 94 iteration yet. Furuhashi is proud to see them put together again, and not a moment too soon. People are mysteriously losing their memories and going wild across Tokyo, so the Ultra Garrison are deployed to look into it. This is because an alien plant lady is spreading her flowers that can erase human minds and make them easily controllable by her people.

Alien plant lady is not a very compelling villain, just acting as a pure heavy. She murders innocent people when she has no use for them and forces others to do whatever she wants. Her goals are simply to prepare the Earth for invasion, and no she’s got nothing to do with Dan’s missing memory. That was strictly from the explosion at the end of ‘94. What we do get are some excellent moments of humans being lovely, lovely humans. The CEO of a business gets affected by the plants, and his subordinates, when learning of his exact condition, jump at the chance to kick him out and take over.

While the Ultra Garrison, Satomi and Shima, are investigating the hospital things go down. Shima gets affected by the plant, Satomi has to knock him out and then get into a fight with a bunch of patiences, that Dan gets caught up in as well. Dan came to find and save the mother, who works as a nurse at this hospital. This ends up with Dan running afoul the Ultra Garrison, seeing them triggering his memory a bit. Kazamori notices him and thinks he’s suspicious, but Dan gives him the slip easily enough.

Things continue to escalate until the mother finally gives Dan his stuff back, revealing how they got him and why they kept this secret. She only asks that when he leaves, that he not say anything. The next day Dan heads out as the Ultra Garrison track down the alien invader, foiling her plans. Dan and Kazamori meet again, Dan hijacking Kazamori’s ride because Kazamori is a poor dumbass in over his head. The two head into the woods, Kazamori falling back to call backup.

Dan talks with the alien, his memory still not fully returned. After a brief chat the alien tries to kill him and leave, the Ultra Garrison swooping in with their attack jet to stop that. With her escape destroyed, she grows to her true size. Dan, seeing this, finally remembers exactly who he is and transforms in response when the Ultra Garrison are shot down. The two fight it out, UltraSeven proving superior. The special ends with Kazamori still wondering about the strange man, and Dan spending time with the mother and daughter, presumably for the last time.

So a fun romp, a little slow and plodding, probably could have been tightened up. Far better than what came before, and having Dan in this situation is unique and fun. Getting to see just how much of his innate sense of right and wrong is natural is very telling for his character, as he doesn’t care if you’re a human profit monger or an alien invader, he won’t stand for your bullshit, memory or no memory. But with his memory returned properly, Dan leaves the family and begins to wander, 1970s Incredible Hulk style.

The second movie of the ‘98 specials is the goose egg. There’s some fun poo poo going on but there’s also some whatever stuff going on. The Guts aliens, the dudes who beat UltraSeven and crucified him in the past, being back is fun in theory...but they don’t really do anything. Mostly they leave things to their human mininos to handle and their suits aren’t even that great sad to say. We have a fun noir-ish opening where Dan comes into a town that’s in a slump, running into a gang and having to fight them off before finding refuge at a bar.

After ordering water some of the pissed off locals who don’t trust strangers, because of course, try to fight him. Dan old man beats them and he gets hit on by the young owner of the bar who invites him to sleep in her apartment for the night. Only then she gets killed and Dan is framed for her murder. And then the episode kind of loses its momentum.

Long story short, the Earth is going to get really hosed up by climate change and humanity will have to evolve or die out. The Guts are here experimenting on humans to transform them into a new lifeform that can survive the new environment, in return for the new species’ loyalty and sympathies for the Guts themselves. The Guts aren’t actually doing anything wrong themselves, just presenting the facts as they know them and letting humans join them or not. Most of the humans have lost hope and don’t see a future with how things are.

The Ultra Garrison get involved, Satomi is captured to be forcibly turned and Dan and Kazamori have another encounter. After that Kazamori seemingly grows a pair, steps up and starts directing the Ultra Garrison on how to tackle the Guts and their plan, to Furuhashi’s great interest. Kazamori is acting uncharacteristically competent and brave, acting with a sureness that he normally doesn’t have. The Ultra Garrison, with him in the lead, bust open the Guts’ operation and save Satomi.

Then when the Guts release a giant monster, Kazamori transforms into UltraSeven! The monster is slain and we learn the truth. See, in Ultraman lore, the Ultra beings can usually fuse with a human, to let them act as a host. Only UltraSeven doesn’t do that. This is because he wasn’t supposed to be an Ultraman to begin with.

Instead UltraSeven’s human form is just him shapeshifting. He chose the form of a man he admired and made it his own. The totally not another one of UltraSeven’s children that he just abandoned ‘homage’ Ultra, UltraSeven 21, uses this explicitly in the 2001 Ultraman Neos, where he doesn’t even have a set human form. He just shifts around as a man, woman, child, whatever. (UltraSeven may or may not have at least three or four kids running around that he doesn’t own up to, including Ultraman Zero which is the canonical one, but not including the daughter from the first episode of this, who is also canon.)

So that entire time Kazamori was acting so debonair and competent? That was just UltraSeven pretending to be him, badly. What happened to Kazamori you may wonder! Well, remember how I mentioned that UltraSeven helped inspire a lot of Japanese media stuff? One of those things is Pokemon. So stop me if you’ve heard this before, dude needs to fight a battle. So he reaches into his pocket and produces a capsule, which he then pushes a button on and tosses release a monster within. He then gives orders to the monster and how it should fight until it’s unable to battle any longer, at which point he recalls it.

Am I talking about Pokemon or UltraSeven? Trick question. The Capsule Monsters were a concept created for UltraSeven and one they had a lot of plans for, premiering in the first episode. We won’t go into who the monsters are just yet since the two that show up won’t be relevant until ‘99. Also to further blow your minds, Pikachu was based partly on the UltraSeven kaiju Eleking. ALSO the capsule technology seen in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z? Directly based on the UltraSeven capsule stuff. And loads of other things too but we don’t have time for that.

Which means, yes, as Dan produces one of his capsules and presses the button, he reveals that he caught himself a Kazamori, Level 5. Kazamori is officially one of UltraSeven’s capsule monsters, probably one of the lovely ones you keep in the party because they can do something useful. Like punching rocks or cutting trees. Furuhashi keyed into Kazamori being WAY too competent and pegged him as Dan, but sadly only confronts him after Dan has switched back, happily leaving Kazamori to deal with that mess.

Which brings us to the last ‘98 special, and a forewarning of what’s to come. The first one was fun and had some neat things, but the villain was just flat evil. The second was a fun rambling man Dan adventure that then had some kind of weak villains, even if they call out future plot points. Here, here we get what’s almost an entire apology on its own for the entire ‘94 debacle.

Betrayal of the Sun is a great, great episode. It’s still a little slow in places, it still runs up against its own limitations perhaps too often and the effects still aren’t up to snuff, but everything else is on loving point. The core story is a mysterious affair where gold was discovered in a small farming village and people are going mad over it. For those who watched Kamen Rider Black, it’s probably intentionally VERY similar to the Gold Bug episode there.

Only that’s where it ends. This is no evil scheme, here. Instead its far sadder, far more tragic with no clear, black and white choices.

This gold? While it is being placed artificially, the gold itself is not to blame for the villagers acting wild. That’s their own ugly, greedy selves to blame. Husband and wife air their greivances with one another, rapists punks turn up to rob people (and rape, yes seriously, but they’re stopped thankfully before it goes further than abduction) and former neighbors try to murder each other. Dan, and later the Ultra Garrison, end up here. Dan quickly discovers an alien intellect overseeing everything, and mysteriously pacifying people. Kazamori and Shima get involved in trying to stop the punks, getting pacified with them by the mysterious alien eyeball. Dan shows up and the eyeball has them attack him, but not for evil reasons as we’ll see.

Dan knocks them out and recalls Kazamori to his pokeball, taking his place. Only briefly this time though, as we’ll see. He arranges for the Ultra Garrison and the alien intellect to meet, and the alien reveals what it truly is. They are Banderas and they are, no joke, the physical manifestation of the will of a star. The star Banderas, of the Banderas Solar System. No joke, no kidding, straight up cosmic manifestation up in here. They make their case to the Ultra Garrison, one that Satomi in particular takes great interest in.

They managed to forge a gateway to the Earth here in this village, and have been testing a theory of theirs. See, Banderas is a very old star and is dying now. But its solar system is teeming with life, and it views those lifeforms as its children. Through no fault of its own it is betraying its own children, destroying their homes. But, if allowed to collect the Minus Energy of humanity, Banderas believes they can restore themself. And Dan doesn’t say a loving word.

Here we explore what Minus Energy is. In effect, it is negative emotions and feelings. Hate, jealousy, bigotry, our nastiest and ugliest expressions and opinions. In the past it has been explored as purely evil, the power source of great villains such as Yapool, an interdimensional entity that will always revive so long as there is MINUS ENERGY. So wouldn’t it be good to give that away, safely, to save millions, maybe even billions of lives? Banderas allows the Ultra Garrison to regroup with the TDF and discuss things before acting itself.

While it was experimenting, it has returned everyone back to normal and it never meant to harm anyone. It just reacted in fear of UltraSeven because he is an alien influence on the humans. It will not take the minus energy by force. And Dan, again, doesn’t say a loving word because this is not his place to stand. He has his own opinions, of course, but he’s not human. He’s not part of the human race. He cannot speak for them. And unlike Superman, he cannot say that he is either.

UltraSeven, Dan, is twenty thousand years old and not even close to old yet. He has lived longer than human society has thrived. The time he has spent on the Earth, though cherished, does not dominate his view of the universe. He cannot dictate the fate of humanity. That must be left to humans.

And what follows is a mature, sincere discussion that, yes, giving up our negative emotions could be useful...but it’s not right either. We need our anger, our hate, our ugly emotions. Because they drive us. They make us compete, they make us human. To be human isn’t to discard what we don’t like, it’s to embrace and control it. To master it. The human cast argue over this, Satomi wanting to save the people of the solar system above all else. Her thoughts are the most selfless, as she considers all the lives they could yet save.

But the call is made. They are to reject the Banderas’ offer of freeing humanity from their own negative emotions, and will destroy the gateway to ensure that nothing more can happen. Satomi takes the bomb herself to see the mission through, though she’s still conflicted. Kazamori is released and meets back up with the Ultra Garrison as Satomi makes her way into the forest. There she meets Banderas and Dan.

It’s here, after she becomes frozen in the fear that she’s going to kill countless lives by doing this, that Dan reveals the tragedy to both of them. This has been hinted at up to now and if you thought about it logically, you would have realized it. Banderas is already a Red Giant, having entered its dying stages years ago. Banderas is unaware of this exactly because of the nature of what it is, but Dan is completely up to date on the state of the Banderas solar system.

Any of the people that were living there and couldn’t escape are already dead. The solar system itself is irreparably destroyed, and there’s nothing that can be done about it. Further, as Dan reveals, even taking all of the minus energy from humanity might not save Banderas. They might already be too far gone, unable to revert to their healthier form once again. Banderas is aghast at this, and the implications that they murdered their own children and starts to freak out. Satomi, with a heavy heart, sets off the bomb and destroys the gateway, trapping Banderas here.

Banderas fully materializes on Earth, which is pretty lovely for us, and UltraSeven fights them. They’re completely lost to their own grief and the fight doesn’t last long, Seven stabbing out their central eye before freezing them. He takes the manifestation of a star into space and destroys their remains, a supernova going off.

We then end the 1998 UltraSeven specials with Furuhashi in Tokyo, overlooking the bay at night. Dan joins him, reuniting with his friend in person for the first time in thirty years. Longer, in universe. Specifically Furuhashi is on his trip home, and Dan has taken the place of his usual driver because Dan is a troll. Dan takes him over to the bay where the two friends finally get to talk.

And it’s as heart warming as it is sad. It’s just really, really good.

“Dan. This must have been just a small detour for you. I mean your time on Earth. I’m going to have a grandchild soon. When my grandchild grows up and has a child of their own I’ll be a great-grandfather. And when their child grows up, I might not be in this world anymore. But Dan...you’ll still be alive.”

“Even until my grandchild’s grandchild’s grandchild’s grandchild’s grandchild’s generation...you’ll still be alive.”

Dan nods somberly. “Sometimes I wish I was born human. Sometimes I wish I could remain on this planet forever.”

Furuhashi knows Dan is leaving soon, and tells him to come back whenever he can. Any time he can. No matter how far in the future, humanity will always accept him. Dan admires humanity, believing that they grow better and better with each new generation, Furuhashi agreeing. The two promise to meet again one day and shake hands, Dan walking away so he can transform and return to space. The new Ultra Garrison watch him leave, saluting him. And Furuhashi, as Seven leaves the planet, calls out to him like he did all those years ago. “DAN!”

Yes, maybe Dan would have been happier if he could have remained with that family. Maybe he would have been happier as a normal human. But that’s not who he is. That’s how what he is. He loves humanity, and he is burdened by the knowledge that one day all of the people he knows and loves will die. But he can also take solace that the future of humanity is unending, and humanity as a species will keep growing better and brighter, even if they stumble now and again.

So ends UltraSeven Evolution 1998. Without a doubt the happiest, though still tinged with sorrow, ending of the Evolution series. Next time we start the arguable best of the Evolution series, the six movie ‘99 series. I’ll probably break that one in half since there’s a lot of poo poo to cover, being twice as long as this one here, and there’s a lot to go over.

This was UltraSeven finding its feet again. UltraSeven ‘99 is the series loving full sprinting forward, embracing everything great about the show and characters.

I hope you look forward to it.
See you soon.

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wokow6
Oct 19, 2013
So I've watched the first two episodes of Zero-One, and am really enjoying it so far, and I'm wondering if I should go back and give Fourze another go.

I'm new to watching Kamen Rider, and a few years ago I got a couple of episodes into Fourze, before getting distracted by life and stopping. Would it be a good series to go back to if I'm new to the series, or would another series be better?

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

wokow6 posted:

So I've watched the first two episodes of Zero-One, and am really enjoying it so far, and I'm wondering if I should go back and give Fourze another go.

I'm new to watching Kamen Rider, and a few years ago I got a couple of episodes into Fourze, before getting distracted by life and stopping. Would it be a good series to go back to if I'm new to the series, or would another series be better?

Fourze is good fun. It barely has an overarching story, but the cast is great and the two-parters that define the show are good. I would generally recommend starting with W, as mentioned before, but Fourze's a good time, no reason not to watch it.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
@Burkion,

drat, that is quite the drama. Interesting that UltraSeven gets pulled into these things whether he likes it or not because he can't stop that voice in the back of his head going "I need to help." That's rough...

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

I've seen 0 of the ex aid movies and the tv show holds up on its own.

Yeah, I saw Dr. Pacman and nothing that was canonically revealed in that movie, that wasn't also canonically revealed in the show itself, really mattered.

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drrockso20 posted:

Personally I think Drive would be a pretty good choice for first series to watch

I watched Drive recently, and while I ended up liking it, those first 9 episodes are rough. The first couple episodes set up the main mysteries(there is some number of evolved Roidmudes that will make something happen, there was a Kamen Rider before Drive, Mr. Belt wasn't always a belt) and then they're just completely left alone for a solid seven episode stretch of upgrade of the week episodes. And it's not like they're good upgrades. The black and green forms are pretty ugly and the tires are mostly less fun versions of Fourze's Switches.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Trogglodyte posted:

Zero-One episode 3 seems to be the start of the momentum slowing a little. The contents of the episode itself for the most part didn't feature a lot of headturning surprise sucker-punches.

I'm just coming back to this cause holy gently caress the understated revelation regarding the humagears chosen for transforming made me grit my teeth and suck in air when I saw it. I know some people might not consider that much of a spoiler but I'm doing it just to be sure, don't want to ruin it for anyone. But holy gently caress that was rough to think about the implications of, even if it's going to sail over the heads of the kids for now.

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis
I missed anything obvious in that CIA bar. When not-Graphite says awakened he means that particular Humagear hit the AI singularity and became its own person of sorts? hosed if true.

Trogglodyte
Apr 5, 2015

Infinite Darkness

Burkion posted:

This was the last series Ishinomori had a direct hand in, as he did extensive planning and design work for it before his passing.
I'm still not sure where this rumor comes from, because it's almost wholly false and I can't find a single printed source anywhere that says Ishinomori had any sort of direct hand in Kuuga's creation beyond the initial commissioning of a new Kamen Rider TV series. Ishinomori's last tokusatsu work he had a direct hand in was in 1998 with Voicelugger, a tokusatsu series centered around famous Anisong singers (And Tomokazu Seki). As for Kamen Rider, the Shin/ZO/J movies didn't have much involvement from him besides character designs and a basic "What is this Kamen Rider and what does he do?" explanation (And even then, the various things that make those movies stand out in terms of quality are more accredited to Keita Amemiya, a legend in his own right).

Any amount of research can conclude that Ishinomori was dead-set on several projects that were all canceled or heavily changed due to either illness or a change in opinion (In the case of the aforementioned Voicelugger, which became less of a Sentai parody): A Bijinder movie that was canceled due to his lymphoma worsening; an Arashi revival that was cancelled, uncancelled, cancelled again, repurposed into a separate tokusatsu show about music demons, before being repurposed again into Kamen Rider before starting preproduction; and a Hakaider TV series (Which Amemiya would later help turn into the movie Mechanical Violator Hakaider).

Due to these cancellations and changes, he decided that he could not work on everything on his own, so instead he asked for several of his students and fellow character and machine designers (Among which were: Masato Hayase (Who had designed 9 different Heisei Kamen Riders since Kuuga), Toshio Sato, and Daizyuzin designer Tsuyoshi Nonaka) to do the primary work on the next Kamen Rider project whilst he focused on what he wanted to be his magnum opus: God's War. This meant he had very little involvement in Kuuga. Most accreditation for Kuuga's non-preproduction work can be put on Masato Hayase, Shigenori Takatera, Shinji Oishi, and Naruhisa Arakawa. Most of the "planning and design work" Ishinomori did were for other Kamen Rider projects, most of which have never seen the light of day. Those projects include:
-Masked Rider Gaia (Which got dropped entirely due to the fact TsubuPro were working on an Ultraman Gaia series of their own, though its drafts were adapted into its own novel series courtesy of Masato Hayase and Naoyuki Konno)
-Masked Rider XV(Cross-V), which from what anyone can tell is completely undocumented beyond a name and a TBS announcement)
-Masked Rider Kawakami (Same as above, no real information about it I can find)

I've never been fond of this kind of misinformation, since it devalues the work and effort put in by everyone else who was actually working on Kuuga beyond hiring designers. If there's anyone you should specifically credit for Kuuga's grit, most Japanese fans tend to point to a mix of Takatera and Arakawa. Takatera likes producing "grounded" tokusatsu in the sense there's a human approach to things (The police procedural nature of Kuuga, and how Hibiki actually works as a tracker and hunter to find Makamou instead of just immediately running to where they are as though he already knew), and Arakawa knows how to write particularly intense or grim scenes without feeling too edgy (In addition, tokusatsu writer Sho Aikawa credits Arakawa enough for his influence on Kuuga to the point he specifically sought Arakawa's insights on Kuuga-related lore when he was working Wizard 52&53).

Trogglodyte fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Sep 16, 2019

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I just want to say that both of the secretary androids are cute and good

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe
Good thing that the Magia threw Aruto into a puddle, right after he got his shark Key.

Xelkelvos posted:

I just want to say that both of the secretary androids are cute and good

:agreed:

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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TheLastRoboKy posted:

I'm just coming back to this cause holy gently caress the understated revelation regarding the humagears chosen for transforming made me grit my teeth and suck in air when I saw it. I know some people might not consider that much of a spoiler but I'm doing it just to be sure, don't want to ruin it for anyone. But holy gently caress that was rough to think about the implications of, even if it's going to sail over the heads of the kids for now.

Did I miss something?

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Did I miss something?

I guess I missed it too. All I remember is hoodie guy says another candidate has awakened, and it changes to a customer leaving the...barber shop? I think it was a barber shop. Anyway, the HumaGear has like a little flash or something, and blinks his eyes like "Whoa that was weird" and then the belt gets slapped on him.

I'm not really sure what the implications of that were, if any. But it seems like it's the first time we've seen it happen, I definitely don't remember that with the comedian, the delivery guy or the security guy.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

The implication is that they're targeting Humagears on the cusp of self-actualization and becoming a true individual

Fezz
Aug 31, 2001

You should feel ashamed.
I'm just sad we haven't gotten any more fun shirts since episode 1.

Caphi
Jan 6, 2012

INCREDIBLE

Fezz posted:

I'm just sad we haven't gotten any more fun shirts since episode 1.

The blazer/hoodie was a CEO power move though.

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis
We had a generic shirt this episode, though I couldn't grab a moment for full text.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
more Gao...

Gaoranger: S1 E32 - Quest 32: Three Creatures Eat!!
- we're now so involved in this show that we need flashbacks at the beginning of each episode to keep track of the plot!
- I wonder why they named it a Falcon when the imagery is that of a phoenix
- Now that Mothman is dead, Shiro can relax! Too bad we all know he's definitely going to gently caress this up somehow because he's a fuckin dumbass
- I muted it as soon as he started playing his dumb poo poo flute. I played the flute for years in band, I'm so sick of it as an instrument.
- Blue and Red broing it up: good
- Yellow being optimistic: good
- Black and White acting cocky: good
- I love them
- heyo we finally got our new villain... except its three in one! interesting.
- Rasetsu and her assistants Propla and Kyurara, interesting
- Rasetsu should not being giving them any kind of job, I love Evil Couple but they are idiots
- they'll still find a way to gently caress up midnight snaccs
- Propla has this dumb helicopter aesthetic and I am not a fan of it
- Everyone's in their pajamas again yessss cute beebs
- omg they all threw their pillows at Princess Fish and she made the weirdest cute noise I can't even describe it
- and of course Shiro is off somewhere playing his flute like a loving NO NO NO NO NO NOT THIS RUNNING ON ALL FOURS poo poo WE TALKED ABOUT THIS STOP THAT
- I will never get tired of Rangers beating up Putties
- they're moving fast because they can fly, this isn't hard to figure out
- Rasetsu has this thing where she has two mouths, one male voice and another female voice
- she eats concrete. okay. so if they just stuck a cement mixer over her mouths they could smother her
- "five color dumplings" WOW
- LKJAD;LKFJAL;DSKFJ;SLADKFJ Yellow just loving called out Rasetsu for reciting a poem and he did this weird little dance to go with it?! and Black is like "ignore him just attack" and everyone just loving stopped and stared at Yellow I'm/?!?!?
- Yellow is such a loving dork under that sandpaper personality
- Yellow has hawaiian shirts, he knows how to loving get comfy
- Yellow does have genuine tactical and strategic sense, he figures out where the enemy is headed next just based off a one liner.
- yeah split up to search for them this won't go horribly wrong
- I wonder if they'll deal with the trauma of being loving dead.
- oh poo poo there's a lovely street urchin stealing food from the construction site
- Red is trying to reason with him, this is going to go badly
- I'm kind of a big fan of Red parenting animals and kids tbh he's a bit of a push over but he's genuinely caring
- lovely street urchin lives at the place the construction site is tearing up
- jesus christ shiro you dumb idiot he literally relies on the wind to carry him messages so he had no idea they were in a fight
- this is why they wanted you to move on to A'tuin you idiot fucker
- shiro is a good boy but oh god he's dumb
- "five color dumpings" I'm going to remember that one
- Yellow getting irate over the insult and destroying Resetsu's concrete steak...good
- drat shot the rifle out of Red's hands
- oh lord that CGI of falling broken concrete is baaaaad
- wait so presumably what they actually want is to eat concrete, so just set them up at a junk yard or something they'll solve the production waste problem
-everyone's been knocked over by the drat rubble...
- no Red you dumb rear end you're not invincible god this idiot
- It's a trope that the Red colored leader is a dumb rear end but sometimes it just gets to be way too much, this is Lloyd Irving levels of bull headedness
- honestly it looks like this young kid from the site doesn't even have a name...
- you keep saying "eating dreams" but what does that mean exactly
- is it just generic villainy orrrrrr
- Why do they even bother fighting if Silver is going to be there to kick a bunch of rear end for them
- nice to see Red's leg wound no longer exists
- yeowch flamethrower
- gross tongue whip thing
- White hasn't even been kissed yet. kind of shows how young these Rangers actually are
- so I guess Shuten was "Anger", Mothman was "Pride" and Rasetsu is "gluttony"
- yup Evil Couple hosed up the midnight snacks
- so they're only just now facing the fact that they're not actually invincible
- GLAD TO SEE RED'S LEG WOUND NO LONGER EXISTS
- so now they have to protect this specific place? that's actually a neat change...

Gaoranger: S1 E33 - Quest 33: A Boy Prays
- the narration just called Rasetsu "one hungry foodie"
- Red is v worried about the kid but don't worry, Princess Fish is on the case
- the Evil Couple figured out the midnight snack!
- holy hell the assistants have been uhhhhhh chained to a wall
- this piece of poo poo
- this PIECE OF poo poo
- this PIECE OF poo poo ORG JUST MURDERED YABAIBA AND TSUE TSUE TO POWER UP THE ASSISTANTS WHAT THE gently caress
- something weird is happening in this next scene, Red disappeared to leave Princess Fish and then tapped her on the shoulder... but then they sounded like they were talking through walkie talkies. it's intentionally filmed as creepy. this could be a plot thing or it could just be really inept sound design from the showrunners, the two are indestinguishable
- holy poo poo the Rangers actually set a successful trap?!
- Shiro is an idiot but I do like like he and Red back each other up during these fights
- oh no not flying helicopter propellers anything but that ahhhh
- Princess Fish is looking for the homeless kid and she has the weird sound design again
- aww she made him lunch
- drat that looks good
- WHY IS THE SOUND IN THESE SCENES SO WEIRD
- princess fish is faking choking... that's actually pretty clever
- kid doesn't want to leave...
- now the sound switched back to the regular tone, why did it change like that
- they finally remembered that early episode where the Rangers defeated their enemies with team work, and now they're fighting together instead of trying to fight them one on one! if only they had remembered that earlier!
- (i'm nitpicking it's actually fine)
- Red just blew one of them the gently caress up with the bowcaster, nice poo poo
- and they just loving lit up the second one.. nice
- oh thank god the Evil Couple isn't loving dead they're just badly hurt
- uh oh the Zords aren't responding
- Shiro is having a weird romantic moment with Princess Fish except they're both deeply uncomfortable
- wait, does this lovely little kid have something to do with the Zords checking out
- "This place is the reason" what
- I mean come on, you expect me to believe the construction site created a mystical Faraday Cage around them that keeps their signals from getting out
- WHY DOES THE KID KNOW THE SOLUTION
- ohh what the heckity
- there's like... statues of animals sticking out of the hills. apparently they're mad or some poo poo who knows.
- kid's right, looking at these statues is a bummer
- uhhhhhh one of them has an inscription that says "Shirogane"
- and then "Monument of Resting Souls"
- so its a grave for the first generation of Gaorangers? Holy poo poo
- so their spirits are mad about their gravestone being dug up in the construction
- so they prayed really hard and the rocks came together to form one MEGA statue this symbolism is really on the nose huh
- yay the Zords are back defeat them Rangers!!!!
- Nice to see the Phoenix MegaZord in action.
- why does Evil Couple even work for these dudes...they deserve better
- drat, Shiro's having to say good bye to his old friends for the last time. his name is on that slab.
- Also the score in this scene is really incredible
- lovely street urchin kid disappeared, Red is going to be beside himself.
- everyone's paying their respects. drat.
- this is a really moving scene actually.
- hmmmmm Fuutarou appeared right after they encountered a creepy kid in all white that got them out of the afterlife WHO COULD IT BEEEEEEEEEEEE
- (I just figured out that must be GaoGod, lol.)

Gaoranger: S1 E34 - Quest 34: The Mighty Org Weeps!?
- you toku thread motherfuckers are witches or something, I'm turning up the theme song when it gets to the first riff and title call
- holy loving poo poo the narrator is still dunking on Resetsu as "Foodie"
- holy god the Evil Couple is dressing up in the butler/maid thing to serve Resetsu more food to cheer them up
- I love these idiots
- honestly... I'm getting this feeling like we're starting down the home stretch here. there's gonna be a lot more poo poo to get through but idk suddenly I have this feeling like we're starting to see the ending point
- the next Org is literally a Charcoal Grill Org and he's just loving booking it, he literally did the "look, what's over there!" trick to get away from the Rangers and he completely no-selled the Evil Couple
- now they've collided in an intersection, I am losing it
- Yellow does this cute thing where he folds his arms like a little kid when he's uncomfortable
- oh my god they're accosting a local griller, Black is hungry
- drat I don't blame him the food looks amazing
- but seriously you guys need to get keep emergency cash in your boot heels for this kind of thing
- "You can be useful for something" - from you know who
- oh my god Yellow doesn't eat poultry this loving nerd i'm going to suplex him for being too cute
- why is this dude giving them all this food i don't get it
- they come back stuffed
- imagine coming back to your workplace not having done your job because you ate too much
- oh my godddddddddd
- oh holy poo poo it was all a ruse from Charcoal Grill Org he disguised himself
- holy poo poo they loving fell asleep on cots to sleep it off I'm ak;djf;laksdjf;laksdflkasjdf
- Princess Fish called them cows for eating too much and Bison made the moo noise holy poo poo
- Charcoal Grill Org doesn't want any part of this... oh god...
- lkdfk the music is really good during this drat
- Black what did you find...
- bullshit, Black did not identify the grill owner just from looking at charcoal
- Yellow immediately tries to go in for the kill but Black is being a stand up dude
- Yellow, the king of rash decision making, is complaining that Black is too impulsive
- huh, this Org is like...50 years old.
- holy poo poo he burned down a festival.
- but then he fed some homeless kids and he reformed... holy poo poo
- he knows his ticket is punched. drat.
- "there are no good orgs" but Yellow doesn't like it either
- "I'll say I didn't see an org." drat, letting it slide.
- Black's being such a stand up dude here holy poo poo.
- wow.
- like this show's cosmology is crazy but it also results in stuff like this
- ayy its Fuutarou
- aw Grill Org is able to cook for him
- oh gently caress off Tsue Tsue
- oh no he goes crazy and loses it when he's mad
- well at least Fuutarou pointed out the Evil Couple so they know its not all his fault
- drat, you've got the stubborn one and the military hardass feeling sorry for this dude
- at least they didn't get too badly burned or anything
- oh poo poo oh no this poor guy
- oh my god gently caress off Evil Couple
- holy poo poo did they kill him
- oh my god
- no
- gently caress you people
- gently caress you people he was a good guy gently caress you
- crush them Rangers
- no you piece of poo poo you don't get to bring him back
- fuuuuuuuuuuck yoooooooouuuuuuuuuu go loving die, just loving die
- Jesus. they have to put him down now that he's big.
- you know what else makes this a fantastic episode? Shiro isn't loving in it.
- no.... old man...stop...
- this is awful
- that was putting down a rabid dog, holy poo poo
- yup, the cart's gone
- White's trying to put a brave face on it and Red is in flat denial
- holy poo poo Yellow has dog tags...why did you grab them like that dude? were you reminded of your own mortality, huh?
- dude is cooking for Fuutarou... Fuutarou confirmed for GaoGod seeing as how this poor Charcoal Org is loving Dead


Gaoranger: S1 E35 - Quest 35: The Beast King Swords, Sealed
- the Rangers are out patrolling the same city (I think) looking for an Org but they're generally having a peaceful day under some cloud cover...
- It's that lovely kid Fuutarou, why ae you stealing you brat
- he called him GaoRed and Red immediately claps a hand over his mouth looool
- "I feel like we met a long time ago" YEAH BECAUSE HE'S GAOGOD
- he likes White better and Red is so injured
- there's an Org freaking out and wrecking poo poo complaining about lovely materials? why does he sound like my mom when she's fighting with the plumbing?
- holy gently caress White goes to beat up the Org and Red has to baby sit the lovely kid lmaoooo loving wrekt my dude
- he just loving hammered her on the head and she fell down that's not cool dude
- he literally throws the jewel away ahahahaha
- oh my god the kid just loving dunked on her
- GaoGod being a dick face is weird but its starting to wrap around to hilarious
- Princess Fish isn't pleased
- holy poo poo now the entire team is dunking on her this is brutal lololololol
- Blue tries to dunk on her some more and White responds by...freaking the gently caress out and quitting and has this weird tantrum. okay.
- I mean all of the characters have freaked out like this at one point or another so its not surprising
- Yellow and Black and Blue didn't check that White and Red were there before jumping in
- Red is trying to bribe White to make her happy
- white you heinous bitch if you just ignore him like this I will kick your rear end myself Red is a PUPPY DOG OF A MAN
- oh my god the Blacksmith Org used the fishing rod glitch from Ocarina of Time to steal the other Rangers knives
- Yellow tries to tackle but he ain't a foot ball player so he just sends them flying into Tsue Tsue's hands
- Princess Fish has had enough of this loving poo poo she is just loving OUT
- Red finally tells White "look, it's not fair but they're always like that and nothing's gonna change if you just stay in the cave like this so you can't just up and quit because that won't solve anything" which should have been the first thing he did. but this is Power Rangers logic.
- at least the three dudes got owned by having their knives taken lmao
- this is a weird combination of really good and really cringe why did they do this to White
- I mean the answer is "misogyny" but I'm still loving baffled
- like if White is so capable why did they demean her like this in the script, the idea is solid but the way its handled is just awful, I get that she's the only girl and that can be hard but there are lots of different ways they could have handled the gap between her and the boys without demeaning her or them
- oh holy poo poo new eye catch for mid episode break!
- now Fuutarou is trying to snap her out of it and the sympathetic music comes to a screeching halt when White says I'M NOT DEPRESSED and Fuutarou is like "loving finally"
- the Blacksmith Org turned the knives into cutlery. Ugly rear end cutlery too. A journeyman blacksmith would be ashamed to have made these
- Red loving swings in because he just realized he's the only one in the episode that isn't a goddamn clown so he has to fix this himself
- LKRAJL;KJDASFJ;LKFSADJKLD;AFJKL;DKJLJFDKLFJKDLJFKLDJLKFDSJAKL;
- "It's not fair to use a fire arm!"
"Then, Arrow Mode!"
"That's a fire arm too!"
*music halts mid note*
*Red stutters*
"No it's not!" *still kicks the Org in the face*
- okay its way too late in the loving season for White to learn the power of team work or whatever, we should be over this
- STOP loving THIS UP SHOW
- Yellow finally dragging his rear end to the party
- "I shouldn't get mad like that" yeah don't act like a loving child, holy poo poo
- how are they gonna change their knives back from lovely cutlery
- of course Shiro shows up and ruins the scene. Shiro ruins everything.
- looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool their knives didn't change back I am living
- Shiro has to fight this one by himself
- this episode could be called "The Gang Gets Owned"
- And Shiro can't fight him off by himself, of course he can't. what's the point of Silver again?
- wait why is Red having an erotic moment with the Falcon
- they're putting their jewels into the bowcaster to summon their Zords that way
- what will Princess Fish think rofl
- Red being the dumbest one on the team and still being the only one to hold on to his knife properly is hysterical
- ayyy they changed back
- Black wanted to use his fork for food and Yellow calls him a pig rofl
- they think Fuutarou is the cause of the trouble and they dunk on Yellow for using English all the time i'm living
- poo poo. Red is really hot huh. fffuuuuck.


Gaoranger: S1 E36 - Quest 36: The Warriors Dance
- I am absolutely befuddled at how attached I am to these dumbasses
- Yes, even, sigh, Shirogane.
- jesus christ Princess fish is singing that stupid deer song and it's bothering Resetsu
- Tsue Tsue once again references "the Matrix" as a place that high duke Orgs stay when they're not active. I really hope we find out more about how this stuff works because it's actually kind of interesting
- so Shiro remembers dedicating this song to GaoGod way back when first and Fuutarou is almost about to start crying when he hears it HMMMMM WHAT COULD IT MEAN
- Princess Fish is being a real jerk, the Flute Org disrupted the morning music, not Shiro. and now Shiro's trying to pass the blame on to her for not being more like Murasaki drat dude that is loving cold just because you miss your gf doesn't mean you have to project that on to Princess Fish
- what am I loving saying, of course he does, he's Shiro, shithead decision maker.
- Princess fish is so mad that she loving quit holy goddamn
- and she's pissy because Shiro compared her unfavorably to Murasaki
- AND NOW RED HAS TO RUN AFTER HER oh god, poor Kakeru, he's having to baby sit all these angry women
- he. literally. did the batman thing where he shows up at Shiro's bar and sneaks up on him to have a heart to heart. I can't quite put this into words but this is intensely attractive for some reason. what the gently caress
- literally begging Shiro to stop pissing off Princess Fish
- "no really she's not like Murasaki but she's still great" - a boy with a crush on his favorite girl, gosh you cutie
- so the Org's deal is that his flute recreates the dancing plague from way back when. interesting.
- interestingly this Org has a head shaped like an ocarina.
- it seems the Rangers armor protects them
- jfc Evil Couple coaxing him to their side like getting a stray dog
- good, you motherfuckers deserve to get drained of energy after you murdered Charcoal Grill Org
- they showed up to the fight untransformed.
- I love them but they are stupid as poo poo
- this is all set up for Shiro to have a goddamn flute battle isn't it
- oh look who decided to drag his rear end in to the crystal cave
- now they're awkwardly making up
- oh my god Princess Fish literally headlocked him and dragged him off
- they're using that stupid song to fight the flute org oh for gently caress's sake STOP STOP IT WITH THE FLUTE MUSIC ITS NOT THAT GREAT AN INSTRUMENT I SWEAR
- Rasetsu finally does something useful in this drat show and stops Shiro and Princess Fish from singing
- now that bitchy deer is back and she ain't happy
- I hate that deer so much you guys have no idea
- Rasetsu knew, they tried to save us from the Deer
- Princess Fish just shoved Shiro off a building by accident what the christ
- Shiro tries to play it off as nbd loooooooooooooooool
- they're loving this Org up, guess they didn't like being toyed with
- Princess Fish enjoys the violence... she has the skin of a killer
- hahahah drat the Org ruined their summoning with the flute
- wait a minute where was Silver in this why did he just run up now
- uhh so what's this? all of a sudden they upgraded to God Power Animals? Am I reading this correctly?
- GaoGod Megazord is here...
- "But why is he here when he died a thousand yeares ago?" Good question.
- and apparently GaoGod acts independently because he totally destroyed that flute with a bow on his own.
- WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE COSMOLOGY OF THIS SHOW AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
- okay these finishers are just getting silly now
- and they did it without needing Shiro's stupid Zords
- The music is very ominous in this section where they congratulate GaoGod for some reason....
- Shiro doesn't know crap. Of course he loving doesn't.
- lol the Rangers just watch them leave like "aight"
- Princess Fish drags Shiro off...when a tsundere likes another tsundere weird poo poo happens


Gaoranger: S1 E37 - Quest 37: Yabaiba Fired Up
- Fuutarou is literally climbing A'tuin, stop that you brat
- he falls...aaaaaand cut to the gang talking about GaoGod
- uh so how did Fuutarou get into the crystal cave when he fell
- "I felt the turtle calling me"
- Blue is so freaked out that he hides behind Black
- so apparently Tsue Tsue is the favored chef rofl
- ...Evil Overlord has a younger brother apparently? Okay I guess we're at the point where we can just loving make poo poo up now
- horrific Juggling Org...
- so F has no memory but at least he gets along with Blue
- Yellow's loving face when he realizes Blue is planning go out alone to look for F's family
- Yellow's dog tags are very prominent this episode and the next
- poor Yellow got stuck paying for a poo poo amusement park because Fuutarou is a lovely freeloader
- I suspect these episodes are excuses for the crew to gently caress around in an amusement park for a couple of days
- oh my god Yellow doesn't like rollercoasters loving rip same dude
- I can't believe Yellow is loving dead
- holy poo poo Blue and F are loving dragging him for not being able to handle it even though he's a pilot holy gently caress
- oh jesus
- oh my god those loving assholes POPPED FUUTAROU'S BALLOON I HATE
- Yellow is a dumb fucker that gets really competitive about whack a mole
- I'm watching this with the sound off bc I can't handle the second hand embarrassement
- now Yellow is sad because he's alone what did you assholes do to him
- oh no the tower of terror was a trap all along who could have guessed
- I'm really glad I have the sound off bc I don't want to hear what this sounds like
- Yabaiba calls Yellow his worthy rival... Yellow isn't buying it lol
- "You're just my warm up" burnnnn
- Yellow is horrified by the thought of teaming up with Blue and honestly I don't blame him
- yeah this was definitely an excuse to waste some time in an amusement park on company pay
- apropos of nothing but Fuutarou is dogshit
- the other Rangers FINALLY show up
- I am noticing a pattern where Blue oriented episodes tend to be nonsensically bad
- so they're just assuming that GaoGod mecha will come back even though he hasn't even bothered to show up yet
- so Yabaiba is planning to off himself by eating the rabbit poop pellets known as Org Seeds? okay.
- that looked painful actually.
- *in monotone* hurray Silver showed up
- Yabaiba is bummed that his totally canon brother that we never met before now is dead
- did Yabaiba just fart
- and now he's shrinking like a balloon
- Tsue Tsue actually stopping to comfort him... aw geez
- stop making me care about you, you fuckers
- Yellow you don't get to flex on Blue when you can't handle a rollercoaster
- Silver taking charge being the Dad...
- wait does that make Red the Team Mo--
I'm not going down that road
- Fuutarou the lovely street urchin has a vague memory of GaoSilver! quick, everyone stop and stare!

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Waffleman_ posted:

The implication is that they're targeting Humagears on the cusp of self-actualization and becoming a true individual

Seems like it. Probably because they need to download their data to analyze it. Possibly meaning that the keys they retrieved from dead monsters have it downloaded on them, which could give the necessary escape clause to revive Izu when she inevitably becomes sapient and gets turned.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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I don't like that the cop guy's second form is symmetrical.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Gripweed posted:

I don't like that the cop guy's second form is symmetrical.

It's a different way to mismatch the armour. While Shooting Wolf has armour on the right side but not the left, Punching Kong has armour (a lot of it, too) above the waist but none below.

M.Matsuda
May 9, 2014

May the Sacred Flame shine forth!

I finally finished Kabuto today.

i Really enjoyed it, love this weird, weird season with it's co-leads, and really gorgeous suits.

Kagami is also probably my current favorite secondary rider now.

Kagami just straight up Became the protagonist for ep 49 and it was great. -also yes episode 45 and 46 Destroyed me. merry xmas my poor idiot son Tsurugi :smith: :cry: . next up for me is probably gonna be Kuuga.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

M.Matsuda posted:

I finally finished Kabuto today.

i Really enjoyed it, love this weird, weird season with it's co-leads, and really gorgeous suits.

Kagami is also probably my current favorite secondary rider now.

Kagami just straight up Became the protagonist for ep 49 and it was great. -also yes episode 45 and 46 Destroyed me. merry xmas my poor idiot son Tsurugi :smith: :cry: . next up for me is probably gonna be Kuuga.

One of the things I like best about Kabuto is how it is for the most part the story of Kagami as he grows. Tendou starts and ends the same way, as the perfect human being.

Yes, poor Tsurugi. How the mighty have fallen. :(

M.Matsuda
May 9, 2014

May the Sacred Flame shine forth!

Darth TNT posted:

One of the things I like best about Kabuto is how it is for the most part the story of Kagami as he grows. Tendou starts and ends the same way, as the perfect human being.

Yes, poor Tsurugi. How the mighty have fallen. :(

i knew it would be sad but not, How sad. :( literally had to pause the stream after 46 because we were both just :smith: and :cry: about it.

and yeah Kagami's growth and journey is real good, reminds me of Koichi from jjba but imo executed somewhat better.

also as a jjba fan i would Love to see the kabuto riders in araki's current art style, it'd look real good in it, as would the suits

Tendou, -i just really liked him. he's great. world's best big brother. they're a good duo i can't imagine one without the other, as far as "the main protagonist of Kabuto" goes. it's a shame Mizushima got blacklisted. but i'm glad Kagami got to return in zi-o. and Forreal Be Kabuto. he really was worthy :unsmith:

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
The Gaoranger posting got me to watch episode 30, since it had like five “oh my god” lines and I didn’t remember it clearly. Just like a few random points.

1. They asked Silver to do way too much screaming in that one scene. I’m about as bad at detecting bad acting as you can expect from someone with no Japanese, so I won’t notice a lot of corny stuff in Sentai that I’d call out in Power Rangers. But that soul clash screaming was heading into “KHAAAN” territory.

2. I remember thinking that Gao was the first in a new era for Sentai, but these days it kind of feels like end of an era? Yeah, the robot transformation being fully CGI rather than a bunch of practical props flying together on wires over rotoscoped effects is new; and this is basically when ranger teams started wearing Team Jackets everywhere, a trope so codified to modern Sentai that Akibaranger made fun of it (even if PR in Space beat them to it.) But the use of a “same bat channel” narrator opening and closing the episode feels very Showa? Kakuranger has a narrator too, but he’s a satire of Showa cliches who Doesn’t Get It and is very Boomer-Dad to the Kaku ninjas for being a hip young team of teenagers with attitudes.

3. Gaorangers also call each other out by color when in costume. This is now associated with a team that is hiding it’s identity (Lupinranger, for example) but they walk around everywhere in those jackets? Hurricanger and Abaranger followed and those teams used each other’s names. Gaoranger could at least stand to use each other’s names in serious moments, because Red screaming “BLLLEEEWWWWWW” when when Blue is totally thrashed robs it of impact than if he used the guy’s name (which I didn’t memorize, since I only watched this one episode.)

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Craptacular! posted:

The Gaoranger posting got me to watch episode 30, since it had like five “oh my god” lines and I didn’t remember it clearly. Just like a few random points.

1. They asked Silver to do way too much screaming in that one scene. I’m about as bad at detecting bad acting as you can expect from someone with no Japanese, so I won’t notice a lot of corny stuff in Sentai that I’d call out in Power Rangers. But that soul clash screaming was heading into “KHAAAN” territory.

2. I remember thinking that Gao was the first in a new era for Sentai, but these days it kind of feels like end of an era? Yeah, the robot transformation being fully CGI rather than a bunch of practical props flying together on wires over rotoscoped effects is new; and this is basically when ranger teams started wearing Team Jackets everywhere, a trope so codified to modern Sentai that Akibaranger made fun of it (even if PR in Space beat them to it.) But the use of a “same bat channel” narrator opening and closing the episode feels very Showa? Kakuranger has a narrator too, but he’s a satire of Showa cliches who Doesn’t Get It and is very Boomer-Dad to the Kaku ninjas for being a hip young team of teenagers with attitudes.

3. Gaorangers also call each other out by color when in costume. This is now associated with a team that is hiding it’s identity (Lupinranger, for example) but they walk around everywhere in those jackets? Hurricanger and Abaranger followed and those teams used each other’s names. Gaoranger could at least stand to use each other’s names in serious moments, because Red screaming “BLLLEEEWWWWWW” when when Blue is totally thrashed robs it of impact than if he used the guy’s name (which I didn’t memorize, since I only watched this one episode.)

1) There's a lot of that going around but this is one of the reasons why Silver annoys me so much as a character. dude cannot stop yelling. Chill out my guy.

2) There's a lot of recognizable tropes from MMPR like the color coding. I don't know the narrator tropes but it still struck me as old fashioned since they use the narrator's voice as a way to pad out episode length when they need to, which you really only do after a lot of experience with it. It seems to me that Gao was part of the transition phase from one type of show to the next. They do some things differently as the company slowly edges into the twenty-first century but then they also do a lot of old things too.

3) There was the in-show reason for that and they don't really use each others names in general unless they're mocking each other. I guess it's supposed to be a kind of endearment thing where they use the codenames first and foremost because that's how they know each other and only use real names when making fun of each other. But yeah, it does get ridiculous during serious moments when they loving die and its like. Those are colors. Those are color names that you are yelling over your friend's smoking corpse. Do you know that? Do you know that you're doing that? You do? And you're gonna keep doing it anyway? A'ight.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Craptacular! posted:

The Gaoranger posting got me to watch episode 30, since it had like five “oh my god” lines and I didn’t remember it clearly. Just like a few random points.

1. They asked Silver to do way too much screaming in that one scene. I’m about as bad at detecting bad acting as you can expect from someone with no Japanese, so I won’t notice a lot of corny stuff in Sentai that I’d call out in Power Rangers. But that soul clash screaming was heading into “KHAAAN” territory.

2. I remember thinking that Gao was the first in a new era for Sentai, but these days it kind of feels like end of an era? Yeah, the robot transformation being fully CGI rather than a bunch of practical props flying together on wires over rotoscoped effects is new; and this is basically when ranger teams started wearing Team Jackets everywhere, a trope so codified to modern Sentai that Akibaranger made fun of it (even if PR in Space beat them to it.) But the use of a “same bat channel” narrator opening and closing the episode feels very Showa? Kakuranger has a narrator too, but he’s a satire of Showa cliches who Doesn’t Get It and is very Boomer-Dad to the Kaku ninjas for being a hip young team of teenagers with attitudes.

3. Gaorangers also call each other out by color when in costume. This is now associated with a team that is hiding it’s identity (Lupinranger, for example) but they walk around everywhere in those jackets? Hurricanger and Abaranger followed and those teams used each other’s names. Gaoranger could at least stand to use each other’s names in serious moments, because Red screaming “BLLLEEEWWWWWW” when when Blue is totally thrashed robs it of impact than if he used the guy’s name (which I didn’t memorize, since I only watched this one episode.)

Some of the more old fashioned stuff might be due to it being an anniversary season

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

HIJK posted:

There's a lot of recognizable tropes from MMPR like the color coding. I don't know the narrator tropes but it still struck me as old fashioned since they use the narrator's voice as a way to pad out episode length when they need to, which you really only do after a lot of experience with it. It seems to me that Gao was part of the transition phase from one type of show to the next. They do some things differently as the company slowly edges into the twenty-first century but then they also do a lot of old things too.
Gao, like Kaku with it’s narrator who was sort of something of an in-universe character, was also marketed as an important anniversary season (25 years in Gao’s case), which might influence the presentation.
[Edit: shout out to the guy above]

The next seasons break away from these old influences. This is one of my favorite periods for Sentai, but I never paid much attention to Gao itself aside from it’s movies. (Gao VS Hurri is one of the better crossover films, given that it has the most amount of “the teams actually fight each other” for one of these. VS Super Sentai was a huge thing in the days before Gokaiger.)

I gotta wonder how you’d feel about Abaranger. It has a huge amount of WTF early on, but has my favorite Evil/Rival Ranger plotlines, which is “what if Evil Green Ranger wasn’t brainwashed but just a nihilistic sociopath who gets off on violence and doesn’t care if he wipes Japan off the map including himself.” It’s theoretically next in line to be licensed but may not happen soon, given that one episode features a crossover with some non-Toei children’s anime that was also on TV Asahi, and that is a nightmare for intellectual property lawyers. They’ll probably skip it (that episode, not the season), but I can’t remember if any arcs progress in it.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Sep 18, 2019

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Craptacular! posted:

Gao, like Kaku with it’s narrator who was sort of something of an in-universe character, was also marketed as an important anniversary season (25 years in Gao’s case), which might influence the presentation.
[Edit: shout out to the guy above]

The next seasons break away from these old influences. This is one of my favorite periods for Sentai, but I never paid much attention to Gao itself aside from it’s movies. (Gao VS Hurri is one of the better crossover films, given that it has the most amount of “the teams actually fight each other” for one of these. VS Super Sentai was a huge thing in the days before Gokaiger.)

I gotta wonder how you’d feel about Abaranger. It has a huge amount of WTF early on, but has my favorite Evil/Rival Ranger plotlines, which is “what if Evil Green Ranger wasn’t brainwashed but just a nihilistic sociopath who gets off on violence and doesn’t care if he wipes Japan off the map including himself.” It’s theoretically next in line to be licensed but may not happen soon, given that one episode features a crossover with some non-Toei children’s anime that was also on TV Asahi, and that is a nightmare for intellectual property lawyers. They’ll probably skip it (that episode, not the season), but I can’t remember if any arcs progress in it.

Abaranger sounds like a lot of fun! I might check it out once Gao is finished.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Burkion
May 10, 2012

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Was not expecting to get a Kingdom Hearts and Ultraman combo joke there but here we are

Boy, 1999 UltraSeven Evolution.

I hope you like your tokusatsu grim and sad. UltraSeven ends up killing good, decent people two episodes in a row to save the day.

That's the thing to expect from this up coming write up. Get ready to read about someone begging UltraSeven not to murder their dad! Because boy is this going to be a train that isn't going to stop

HereticMIND
Nov 4, 2012

So, thoughts on 01/Zero-One so far? Currently getting up to speed before episode 4 drops so I can watch this weekly.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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It's pretty good so far. Obviously, it's a bit early to be making any big sweeping statements, but it's gotten off to kind of a roaring start.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
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It's definitely hitting all the right notes for me. Ex-Aid is my favourite Rider so I was already interested the moment I heard the writer was back and he's giving me the stuff I liked there (except Kuroto, but all in due time).

There's nice clashes between the Riders, interesting morality questions from day one, neat characterization, and the right kind of marketing-related dumb. Also, Yua may become the best female character we've had entirely because she gets to be a Rider from episode 3 and a no-nonsense badass from episode 1. I really hope I'm not wrong in hoping that stays.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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Yua is insanely good so far and had finally started dunking on her idiot subordinate.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
I watched Gao’s resolution to Fuutarou the lovely kid sidekick arc and oh boy. Those two episodes pushed my buttons a bit and not in a pleasant way.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

HereticMIND posted:

So, thoughts on 01/Zero-One so far? Currently getting up to speed before episode 4 drops so I can watch this weekly.

Great stuff. The jokes are giving translators fits tho.

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coconono posted:

Great stuff. The jokes are giving translators fits tho.

I can't wait for emotional climax of the series to somehow tie in to Aruto's recurring signoff pun in a way that doesn't work with how any of them are translating it

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NachtSieger
Apr 10, 2013


Kamen Rider Zero One Episode Zero One is I think, the best first episode of any Kamen Rider series I've ever seen. Episode 2 is great too, and once I watch 3 tomorrow I'll probably keep loving Zero One.

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