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Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Bust Rodd posted:

No the Brawl decks were shortlisted absolutely everywhere to promote artificial scarcity, every LGS was like “we ordered 10 of each and got 2 of each”

and everyone is massively pissed off about it too

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
But it’s so loving stupid because we have Mind Stone, all 10 signets and 10 talismans. Like it’s a solid include in 4-5 color decks but it really isn’t that amazing in anything else and it’s definitely not worth $30.

Seriously the Brawl decks are just gross I’m so very disappointed in WoTC

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Oh and Capn Andy, the 2019 NPE didn't work that way. I have two copies of a rare I acquired before finishing the NPE.

I know this because it's from a code.

Bust Rodd posted:

No the Brawl decks were shortlisted absolutely everywhere to promote artificial scarcity, every LGS was like “we ordered 10 of each and got 2 of each”
Oh nice nice, did they announce they're one print run then to just turbo gently caress Brawl? Because that's a serious "Enjoy your fart salad, brawly" moment

Reprint equity guy is already blasting ropes over Wrenn & Six wotc don't need to give that guy anymore this year

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Bust Rodd posted:

But it’s so loving stupid because we have Mind Stone, all 10 signets and 10 talismans. Like it’s a solid include in 4-5 color decks but it really isn’t that amazing in anything else and it’s definitely not worth $30.

Seriously the Brawl decks are just gross I’m so very disappointed in WoTC

magic players are all broke brain morons

Squinky v2.0
Nov 16, 2006

Behind you! A three headed monkey!

College Slice
Autotapper in this game is pretty good, which just makes it worse when it decides to spring the trap and savagely own you

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

Bust Rodd posted:

But it’s so loving stupid because we have Mind Stone, all 10 signets and 10 talismans. Like it’s a solid include in 4-5 color decks but it really isn’t that amazing in anything else and it’s definitely not worth $30.

Seriously the Brawl decks are just gross I’m so very disappointed in WoTC

It’s better than any of those in a 3 colour deck and even in two colour it’s better than the talismans because you don’t take damage. Not that it matters because you want all the 2 CMC rocks you can get anyway and this is one of the best. You run it alongside your Fellwar Stone and appropriate signets/talismans. It’s an auto-include in any deck that wants any artifact-based ramp at all which is at least like 95% of EDH decks

I’m not spending 30 bucks on it either but this is what happens when you print one of the best rocks in the format with limited availability

Wafflecopper fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Sep 21, 2019

Darox
Nov 10, 2012


Ever since they added the "pay X" button to let you choose to autotap anyway I have turned off autotap and never regretted it.

Not only do you avoid usual autotapper poo poo where it prioritizes lands poorly, but it also saves you from accidental clicks by giving you an extra confirmation step before actually casting spells.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Squinky v2.0 posted:

Autotapper in this game is pretty good, which just makes it worse when it decides to spring the trap and savagely own you
I mean the big one is to watch out for colorless lands but there are some really loving strange ones.

I was playing UB valuegrind in M20 draft and it was absolutely obsessed with tapping all my swamps. And this was a 20+ turn game, so it got pretty exhausting that "return skeleton to hand" was BBB with 1 card in hand and that card was an island.

Also holy gently caress how bad is adamant going to be?

Paul Zuvella posted:

magic players are all broke brain morons
Outside of the weird thread constant of hyperbole, the take away is actually more likely that the spec bubble we labor under caught wind of "possibly playable standard cards" and wotc gleefully escorted the playerbase to speculator buyout town. The signet thing is likely a result and not the beginning.

Bedurndurn
Dec 4, 2008

Spiderdrake posted:

Also holy gently caress how bad is adamant going to be?

I hope to god you just get a popup like when you're casting a thing with Spectacle that just has you choose between the normal cost and the mana cost you'd need for the adamant effect.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Spiderdrake posted:

Outside of the weird thread constant of hyperbole, the take away is actually more likely that the spec bubble we labor under caught wind of "possibly playable standard cards" and wotc gleefully escorted the playerbase to speculator buyout town. The signet thing is likely a result and not the beginning.

If people were buying the decks to speculate on other cards that they think might be standard playable, they'd be parting out the rest of the deck and the mana rock would be cheaper.

The fact that the mana rock is the expensive thing tells you that that's what people are speculating on. (Or alternatively, legitimately have demand for that's not being met).

kater
Nov 16, 2010

The auto-tapper didn't once learn how to respect the Legion's Landing land. Oh well.

Darox
Nov 10, 2012


kater posted:

The auto-tapper didn't once learn how to respect the Legion's Landing land. Oh well.

There was a point where I swear the auto tapper respected the compass flipland reasonably well but then they changed it and now it loving loves to tap the Spires over everything else. Meanwhile it’ll still do everything it can to avoid tapping blast zone even if it’s your only untapped left. You might want to activate it for X=0!

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



It's always funny when your opponent hits you with a Thought Erasure and immediately scoops because your hand is pure gas and they have no way of dealing with it.

NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE
Dec 10, 2001
I send you this file in order to have your advice!
100xp away from 100 and no way to get more til tomorrow, when I come here and see there's a code for 5 free levels, nice!

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Fuuuck I hate Esper. My opponent curved thought erasure, Narset, Kaya's wrath. Didn't even play a basic.

KTS
Jun 22, 2004

I wax my rocket every day!

Shooting Blanks posted:

It's always funny when your opponent hits you with a Thought Erasure and immediately scoops because your hand is pure gas and they have no way of dealing with it.

I love when someone doesn't read the cards properly. I had a run in the ranked 2020 have all 3 wins from a turn 2 thought erasure and them choosing nullhide ferox then scooping

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Shooting Blanks posted:

Knights feels like a limited dream if you get a couple decent ones early. Then again I am bad at limited so what do I know

limited seems like it will be based around grabbing as many adventures as you can

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

babypolis posted:

limited seems like it will be based around grabbing as many adventures as you can

Turns out inherent card advantage is a thing

Murderous Rider is going to be loving obnoxious in Eldraine limited

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

MikeCrotch posted:

Turns out inherent card advantage is a thing

Murderous Rider is going to be loving obnoxious in Eldraine limited

It's a rare, so it's going to be less frequent (and hence way less obnoxious) than Chupacabra.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

MikeCrotch posted:

Turns out inherent card advantage is a thing

Murderous Rider is going to be loving obnoxious in Eldraine limited

It's gonna be obnoxious in standard too

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

mandatory lesbian posted:

It's gonna be obnoxious in standard too

Not as bad as Teferi

th3t00t
Aug 14, 2007

GOOD CLEAN FOOTBALL
First game playing azorious flyers in 2020 event. I draw 12 lands in my first 18 cards. There's only 22 land in the deck. I'm far too lazy to do the math to calculate the % chance of that happening but its got to be infinitesimal.

I went 3-0 two times in a row with a yarok/dread deck then started 2-0 lost the next 2 , then 0-1, 0-1 in absolutely brutal fashion. The losing streak started against simic flash, he had U/G mana untapped and I had 7 mana available, thinking my Yarok was safe against a quench I slammed him on the board. TALES END. TALES loving END. Who the gently caress plays that card? I swear to god. If I had played any of the other non-legendary cards in my hand instead of yarok I would have won that game.

Squinky v2.0
Nov 16, 2006

Behind you! A three headed monkey!

College Slice

babypolis posted:

limited seems like it will be based around grabbing as many adventures as you can

It'll be interesting, it seems like adventure decks will be trying to grind out incremental advantage and every card is built in card advantage, but there are some powerful aggro options in the other colors.

Like I can see how "low powered instant into low powered creature, BUT IN ONE CARD" will have trouble keeping up with the guy slamming knights and turning them sideways turns 2-6




for Murderous Rider in limited, murder stapled to a creature is way more palatable at rare, where you may only see it once every few drafts, rather than at uncommon where you could see it multiple times per game.

Squinky v2.0 fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Sep 21, 2019

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
The untapped.gg tracker is so much better than the MTGAPro Tracker, it's not even funny. It actually updates and keeps track of things!

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Squinky v2.0 posted:

It'll be interesting, it seems like adventure decks will be trying to grind out incremental advantage and every card is built in card advantage, but there are some powerful aggro options in the other colors.

Like I can see how "low powered instant into low powered creature, BUT IN ONE CARD" will have trouble keeping up with the guy slamming knights and turning them sideways turns 2-6




for Murderous Rider in limited, murder stapled to a creature is way more palatable at rare, where you may only see it once every few drafts, rather than at uncommon where you could see it multiple times per game.

except you can just play the adventure as a blocker!!! the mechanic is absurd for limited and about half of them would be first pickable in any other format. the ones where the sorcery half is just a combat trick are more meh, but they're still going to make attacking and blocking horrible.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

th3t00t posted:

First game playing azorious flyers in 2020 event. I draw 12 lands in my first 18 cards. There's only 22 land in the deck. I'm far too lazy to do the math to calculate the % chance of that happening but its got to be infinitesimal.

The odds are better than 1 in 500, so not really infinitesimal.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
fun bug: if you counter an adventure, it doesn't show you the card in the other player's hand

also it may actually let them use the adventure again!

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Arivia posted:

The untapped.gg tracker is so much better than the MTGAPro Tracker, it's not even funny. It actually updates and keeps track of things!

Oh wow yeah this is definitely a lot more polished than Pro Tracker. Also lol it gives you a draft overlay with LSV's card ratings, that will save me some time.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
I am enjoying the growing Limited Resources Vs Lords of Limited schism

M20 has been the most divided yet, with LR ragging on Season of Growth and saying red was bad. Hope we get more hot takes like that for Eldraine

th3t00t
Aug 14, 2007

GOOD CLEAN FOOTBALL

Jabor posted:

The odds are better than 1 in 500, so not really infinitesimal.
Wow. I thought it would be worse than that. I figured you must be wrong, so I googled a card probability calculator and it says .001929, which is about 1 out of 520. So slightly worse than 1 in 500 but pretty close for doing stats in your head. I'm impressed. :aaaaa:

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



So is anyone else playing the Ranked 2020 event and not getting ranking points anymore? The season is still going right?

I am maxed out on the Mastery XP so maybe that's somehow involved?

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

So is anyone else playing the Ranked 2020 event and not getting ranking points anymore? The season is still going right?

Unfortunately you only get ranking points when you win

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



I went back to the normal ranking queue and please tell me what deck wrecks simic flash

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Also is there a way to sort the decks on your deck page? Normally whenever you change a deck it's supposed to bump it to the top of the list right?

But one of my decks seems to be stuck at the bottom of the list no matter what and the NPE decks are always pinned to the top

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I went back to the normal ranking queue and please tell me what deck wrecks simic flash

anything with 4x lil' teferi in it

th3t00t
Aug 14, 2007

GOOD CLEAN FOOTBALL

Tom Gorman posted:

anything with 4x lil' teferi in it
Gruul with rhythm of the wild and domri3 do well too. Can't counter your creatures.

Yoked
Apr 3, 2007


There are an amazing number of Simic Flash players who have allowed me to resolve Domri without realizing all my creatures resolve now.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
In Momir the amass enablers like Gleaming Overseer buff themselves, that's pretty funny.

Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


Simic Flash is a hoot and a holler but it loses to lots of things and needs a decent draw to get any momentum. Gruul seems really strong against it, it has tough creatures that demand to be countered and if you can resolve 1 or 2 its usually gg.

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Do I have to hit 100 tonight? I’m at 99 with no more quests and wondering if I need to use some gems

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