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Hell House LLC: 8/10 Hell House LLC II: Shouldn't exist Hell House LLC III: Should't exist slightly less I still can't believe that the creator of this series made the sequels. The first movie was delightful; it had an incredible sense of its physical space, good, naturalistic performances and a restraint from going over the top on its scares. The sequels were so disappointing. Terrible performances, repetitive sequences, over explaining bullshit. I admit I did get excited seeing the original cast back in action at the end of III but I can't say I'm optimistic based on how the sequels have gone.
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oriongates posted:Babadook and Hereditary both share a trait where the demon/monster is practically a relief when they start showing up for real...because the actual lives of the people in the movie are so agonizingly, realistically painful that it hurts to watch. It's so much easier to see people getting eaten by a demon than it is to see grief and stress tear someone apart with that amount of visceral emotion. Hereditary hosed me up. You hear a lot about a horror movie being "the scariest ever" in marketing and hype which I ignored before watching it because how many times has that been said? Yeah, as someone that's been watching the horror genre for 20+ years this is a film I really do not recommend lightly (by all means, watch it it you want but it's some intense stuff). I took a ten minute break after Charlie's death because it shook me that bad.
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I wonder if the Hell House LLC guys were just ruined by a taste of success, feeling they had to rush out sequels while the first movie was still on people's minds.
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Untrustable posted:Nightcrawler is absolutely a horror movie right? definitely. jake g plays a very idiosyncratic monster
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Petr posted:Watching Babadook. I think this is the most uncomfortable movie I've ever seen in my life.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I wonder if the Hell House LLC guys were just ruined by a taste of success, feeling they had to rush out sequels while the first movie was still on people's minds. Hell House LLC having sequels is fine, but the execution of them's where they dropped the ball. Most agree the best part of 2 is the beginning with random people's experiences and footage. So why not extend those and trim down the talk show part, or have it be the producers have assigned the show topic and it's the research/editing prep phase where they discover each of the random people's footage has subtle indicators that point towards investigating the hotel more and that's where they piece together what ended up being the Tassleman exposition bomb. The crews go in to find out something they can claim as exclusive to the show reveals and they go missing with a little hang in for a possible 3rd film. As I said when I first posted after watching 3, it does some things right and has some flaws. It fits for some rich guy with a major case of Ego to have a film crew taping the set up for his crappy pretentious project, and having the people who went missing in the other two pop up in the footage. It fits for some of the Insomnia crew to either go missing or quit when the weird poo poo starts happening. The reveal of the rich guy's actions before the Insomnia open and the inevitable opening night disaster could've been handled better. Have it be he lost someone in the opening night of the first film's events and the motivation he had for getting rich was to research the truth of the Abbadon and find a way to stop this from ever happening again since all he's essentially been doing is preparing for his revenge even if innocent people end up dying and he dies in the process of ending the Abbadon. So, that's why I stand with 1's the best, 2 sucks and 3's better than 2 but not as good as 1.
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alf_pogs posted:definitely. jake g plays a very idiosyncratic monster Alright. Cool. When it first came out a few friends were like, "don't go in expecting a horror movie". And then I watched it and I was like, "this is absolutely a horror movie". It's a pretty disturbing film that I should buy a physical copy of. Did any company do a cool special edition of it? I love dumb expensive special editions. I like the Scream Factory stuff I have and my Criterions (all the Wes Anderson movies).
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Untrustable posted:Also, Dude Bro Party Massacre III is on Shudder and I remember liking it when it came out. That movie is loving hilarious. And I appreciate replacing all the boobs you'd expect from a slasher exploitation movie with homoerotic tension and abs.
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Lurdiak posted:That movie is loving hilarious. I wish the people from 5 Second Films would make another movie. DBPM III is such a fun subversion of slasher horror while at the same time staying true to slasher horror. I'm only doing movies I own for the challenge thread so I think I'll buy a copy. Edit: Amazon has the Collectors Edition for 25 bucks. I think I'll take that plunge. Untrustable fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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Sep 21, 2019 13:26
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Oh man, I totally have the Blu ray of this from the Kickstarter, yet I’ve never watched it. Definitely going on the list.
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Untrustable posted:Nightcrawler is absolutely a horror movie right? I consider it neo-noir since it's basically an uncredited remake of Ace in the Hole, but a case could certainly be made
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One distracting issue with Hell House LLC 3 is that the budget of the movie isn’t high enough to make Insomnia look like its a production funded by a eccentric billionaire.
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Sep 21, 2019 15:19
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Nightcrawler is just a remake of The Night Flier except the vampire is the media.
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Basebf555 posted:Well, I'm glad my post brought the House of 1000 Corpses supporters out of the woodwork. Always nice to know you aren't alone! Except when you're driving home after midnight and you don't have a passenger.
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Fantastic Fest Reviews The Antenna Turkish slow burn horror that is part The Stuff, 1984, and Terrorvision. The government installs a satellite dish on an apartment complex that actually pumps poison goo into the building. Metaphor  ? Has some great lighting and a creepy abandoned building. The director had to invest his own money to get the film made and it’s pretty amazing how good low budget movies can look now. The lead actor is amazing. Solid movie but drags in the middle. The Other Lamb explores the cult genre by asking “What if the leader is a hella sexy man?” Pretty good. I was expecting it to be more hosed up, but it’s light on the horror. Lots of great views of rural Ireland. Notable performance from Jeffery the Ram doing his best to be as creepy as Black Phillip.
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What are the early lineage of horror films? Seems like the early important ones that are discussed are The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari and Nosferatu. What about between that period and the big Universal Dracula/Frankenstein etc.?
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Zwabu posted:What are the early lineage of horror films? Seems like the early important ones that are discussed are The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari and Nosferatu. What about between that period and the big Universal Dracula/Frankenstein etc.? There really isn't quite an in-between period. The Phantom of the Opera is like three years after Nosferatu. Dracula and Frankenstein were culminations of nearly a decade of Universal gothic and macabre proto-horror films, not the beginning. But there is tons of stuff like Der Golem that is pretty important.
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Snack Bitch posted:The Other Lamb explores the cult genre by asking “What if the leader is a hella sexy man?” Pretty good. I was expecting it to be more hosed up, but it’s light on the horror. Lots of great views of rural Ireland. Notable performance from Jeffery the Ram doing his best to be as creepy as Black Phillip. Chris Hemsworth kind of fills that role in Bad Times at the El Royale. So far it's his only villain role and he did pretty well. I don't know that I'd call that a horror movie as such, but there were some elements of that in it.
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Necrotizer F posted:Chris Hemsworth kind of fills that role in Bad Times at the El Royale. So far it's his only villain role and he did pretty well. I don't know that I'd call that a horror movie as such, but there were some elements of that in it. Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that! During the Q&A screen writer, Catherine S. McMullen, said it was an intentional choice because they didn’t think anyone had done it before. Hemsworth > Huisman.
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I'm going to make an argument to add on to my original post: Nosferatu and Dr. Caligari are important, but are provided a degree of retroactive significance. I think it's really hard to find the point where horror really congealed into our modern understanding of it, but early "horror" movies are more these gothic tales with macabre elements. Like Hunchback of Notre Dame is definitely not a horror movie, but you can definitely draw a line between it and Frankenstein. Dr. Caligari and Nosferatu are very clear precursors to later horror movies with Nosferatu in particular having a lot of the elements we think about with modern horror. So, while a lot of their importance is fair since they were influential movies, their long lasting imprint on the zeitgeist has been partially because they're more recognizable as horror.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Sort of a missing link in it all is really rooted in theater. Both Frankenstein and Dracula were highly influenced by theatrical productions of their respective tales. Was horror as we know it on film a thing in theater? I know there's a long literary lineage, but I've never seen anyone discuss the theatrical lineage of modern horror. Like, were people spooked by theater Dracula, or was the modern conception of horror as a genre created by filmmakers of the past century?
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Pomp posted:Was horror as we know it on film a thing in theater? I know there's a long literary lineage, but I've never seen anyone discuss the theatrical lineage of modern horror. Like, were people spooked by theater Dracula, or was the modern conception of horror as a genre created by filmmakers of the past century? Horror is kind of hard to do in theater though. Like I saw Harry Potter and the Cursed Child which has some moments of pretty disturbing body/lovecraftian horror that REALLY worked but other moments that feel like a Six Flags stage show. I think the only thing I've ever seen that works effectively as horror is Bug. I still have it burnt into memory when one of the characters tries take out his teeth with pliers. But it worked because the actor was so committed and was literally throwing his body against the wall as he did it. With a lesser performer, it would have probably been silly. I remember seeing a show in Chicago about a therapist who has a patient who sees a ghost. The ghost is teased the whole play, and at the end there is a jump scare where he closes a door and the ghost is behind the door. The audience laughed.
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Horror theater: The Grand Guignol, founded in 1897, in Paris specialised in gory plays about murder, torture, and dismemberment. With storylines very similar to what you'd later find in Tales From the Crypt and/or Shock SuspenStories comics. Bad people doing bad things bad then getting some form of ironic punishment. Here are some pictures, although I think all are from the 30s and 40s:    
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Sep 21, 2019 17:19
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FreudianSlippers posted:Horror theater: I want tickets to this.
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loving RAD
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Snack Bitch posted:Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that! During the Q&A screen writer, Catherine S. McMullen, said it was an intentional choice because they didn’t think anyone had done it before. Hemsworth > Huisman. If they ever decide to remake Die Hard Huisman looks like he'd make an excellent Hans Gruber.
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It's pages and pages back, but no one mentioned that the troll from Trollhunter is the best film monster of the past decade.
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Twin Cinema posted:It's pages and pages back, but no one mentioned that the troll from Trollhunter is the best film monster of the past decade. I have a hard time even choosing which one is the best. Trollhunter is definitely one of the best creature features of the decade.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Horror theater: This still operates!? This owns.
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COOL CORN posted:Kvlt! where's my personally curated recommendation > Your weekly curated recommendation is Michio Yamamoto's The Vampire Doll! Be sure to report back with what you think! Somebody else wanted a weekly hand-picked recommendation who was that?
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sigher posted:This still operates!? This owns.
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sigher posted:This still operates!? This owns.
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On Hellhouse LLC3: Better than 2 but I think one, the concept is great runs up against keeping the big reveal of Russel doing all this to shut the gate until too late, and being found footage.Like eccentric billionaire back from the dead doing it all deliberately to lure out the evil and shut it down is rad, but it also hew too close to the format of the others to really work.
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The Grand Guignol is fascinating. There's a cool book called "Theatre of Fear & Horror" about its history, with tons of photos and a couple of complete scripts from their plays. I love their poster art too.      Here's a clip from one of those classic mondo documentaries about the macabre featuring the final performance at the Grand Guignol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtCbnWkIfMA H.G. Lewis basically picked up right where the GG left off, releasing Blood Feast a year after it closed. Speaking of, the Criterion Channel will be featuring all of H.G. Lewis' gore films in October.
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Untrustable posted:Nightcrawler is absolutely a horror movie right? It's basically Dracula but instead of spreading bloodlust viampirism he's spreading bloodlust via capitalism. His role as a corruptive plaguebringer is the same.
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Untrustable posted:Nightcrawler is absolutely a horror movie right? Nope its actually one of the examples I use as a "pure thriller not horror" movie.
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Sorry to bring up another "is this horror?" question but I'm picking movies for the challenge and I am considering Primer... I know very little about it but my friend said it explores horrific consequences of time travel, such as needing to murder your double. To me it seems like conceptual horror, or just plain ol' sci-fi horror. Thoughts?
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:Sorry to bring up another "is this horror?" question but I'm picking movies for the challenge and I am considering Primer... By that logic any time travel movie is horror. Why cant it iust be a sci-fi flick. Heres a tip if you have to do mental gymnastics like "the horrific consequences of time travel" its not a horror movie.
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10 minutes in and Body Melt is incredibly, incredibly dope. What else is like this? It's almost got a Quentin Dupieux feeling its in weird, energetic, surreal style.
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