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get that OUT of my face posted:this seems to be a problem with a lot of shows these days. i watched all of Insecure with my then-gf. the end season 1 made me think whether the rest of it would be a laugh-out-loud show like the first half or a relationship drama like the second half. it went with neither, instead it became a boring as gently caress show where nothing of consequence happens. i guess Issa Rae didn't think it would get another season jokers trick
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Squizzle posted:jokers trick
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ive thought the joker movie was a dumb idea since the first ive heard of it but this sounds like an especially stupid criticism people in comic book movies murder each other all the drat time and half the time theyre coded as the explicit good guys why would this particular comic book movie be any more inspiring
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joker doesn’t really seem to be a comic book movie. like it just seems to be a killer clown movie with no real connection to the joker besides the name
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Sep 25, 2019 15:23
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Captain America: Winter Soldier might inspire some people to join the alphabet agencies 
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Some Guy TT posted:ive thought the joker movie was a dumb idea since the first ive heard of it but this sounds like an especially stupid criticism people in comic book movies murder each other all the drat time and half the time theyre coded as the explicit good guys why would this particular comic book movie be any more inspiring but yeah, any movie or piece of pop culture can inspire people to do dumb or horrible poo poo
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Sep 25, 2019 15:27
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calling it now, joker movie will be good
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CharlestheHammer posted:joker doesn’t really seem to be a comic book movie.
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IT did well, maybe this is just the year of the killer clown
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heres my prediction this is going to be bane the movie in that it will be a very unsubtle story about how angry mobs are bad and police are good and absolutely none of the film critics are going to acknowledge this and will just offer vague praise about how it engages with contemporary political themes while pretending like the movie is somehow doing so without expressing any opinion about them
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get that OUT of my face posted:this seems to be a problem with a lot of shows these days. i watched all of Insecure with my then-gf. the end season 1 made me think whether the rest of it would be a laugh-out-loud show like the first half or a relationship drama like the second half. it went with neither, instead it became a boring as gently caress show where nothing of consequence happens. i guess Issa Rae didn't think it would get another season same thing happened with true detective. the bromance between harrelson and mcconaughey and the way that the show introduced subtle supernatural themes in season 1 was like lightning in a bottle. season 2 and 3 were both wet farts imo, although season 3 is mainly guilty of just trying to re-tell the same story from season 1 but with different actors, whereas season 2 tried to cast vince vaughn as a badass action hero and that is maybe the most laughably awful casting decision i can think of in recent memory. i could not buy vaughn as a bareknuckle boxing gangster rear end kicker no matter how hard they tried to sell it
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Freaking Crumbum posted:same thing happened with true detective. the bromance between harrelson and mcconaughey and the way that the show introduced subtle supernatural themes in season 1 was like lightning in a bottle. season 2 and 3 were both wet farts imo, although season 3 is mainly guilty of just trying to re-tell the same story from season 1 but with different actors, whereas season 2 tried to cast vince vaughn as a badass action hero and that is maybe the most laughably awful casting decision i can think of in recent memory. i could not buy vaughn as a bareknuckle boxing gangster rear end kicker no matter how hard they tried to sell it I remember before season 2 came out there were rumors that HBO was trying to get Brad Pitt to sign on for a New Orleans based detective story but I guess that didn't work out. Too bad because that sounds a hell of a lot better than what we ended up with.
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Serf posted:the funniest part is the production stills that show the clown mask protesters holding "eat the rich" signs yea the movie appears to be conflating OWS/bernie with incel mass shooters becasye its idiot lib trash but the thinkpiece writer honed in on a dumber thing to fixate about
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Farm Frenzy posted:yea the movie appears to be conflating OWS/bernie with incel mass shooters becasye its idiot lib trash but the thinkpiece writer honed in on a dumber thing to fixate about i'm more interested in how its going to use anti-capitalism as window dressing also i don't see where they get the incel thing from because he clearly hooks up with zazie beetz's character. which, uh weird choice but whatever
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incel is one of those words thats lost all meaning because its just used as an all purpose slur now back in the old days we just called such people losers but i guess that wasnt vicious enough
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speaking of weird sex stuff i was loling about how in glow season 3 they have alison brie and betty gilpin's characters hook up with crusty ancient dudes in like some sort of anti-wish fulfillment poo poo. even the doughy faced guy from mad men was a step up, same for porno stache guy from season 2 try to fathom the idea of being sexually attracted to mark maron
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All the hubbub about the Joker movie is just going to make more people interested in seeing it like always when movies get controversial. I certainly am interested which I probably wouldn't otherwise because I normally don't care about superhero movies. Leslie Lee III on the Struggle Session podcast actually claimed this is entirely on purpose which I'm not sure about but I wouldn't be surprised.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Captain America: Winter Soldier might inspire some people to join the alphabet agencies well the reveal is that the spy agencies are literally Nazi staybehinds
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they just throw that out there but still trust that well understand the problem was permanently solved for all future movies since captain america successfully punched a bunch of nazis
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Some Guy TT posted:they just throw that out there but still trust that well understand the problem was permanently solved for all future movies since captain america successfully punched a bunch of nazis oh of course, everything has to reset to status quo at the end of the movie
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well, shield is gone, but they invent the cia at the end lol
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Serf posted:i'm more interested in how its going to use anti-capitalism as window dressing
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the nutty thing is that people think marvel movies have a larger plan they have extremely vague references that can be interpreted a dozen different ways and are usually just totally ignored remember when ultron teased a super serious thor 3 but then they just decided to go to town on thors wacky musclehead personality instead
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speaking of marvel i read this good as hell thing recently https://samkriss.com/2019/05/03/avengers-endgame-or-why-this-is-all-your-fault/quote:The social function of a superhero story is to work through all these possibilities, to leave the audience with some of the libidinal payoffs that come with a brief excursion to the not-this, exhausted but satisfied, ready to go back to work. In Minima Moralia, Adorno complains that under conditions of domination, happiness is reduced to tawdry pleasure: one ‘has no choice but to find inspiration in the trashy film, the expensive but bad meal at the French restaurant, the serious “drink” and sexuality reduced to doses of “sex.”‘ The classic superhero story stands in the same relation to actual liberation as sex does to sexuality. But clearly, we’re no longer in that era. It’s got much, much worse. Another layer of ersatzification has formed over our enjoyments. That vague sense of the not-this has been hardened and crystallised into the hermetic detachability of a cinematic universe, in the same way that the vastness of love and sexuality became the healthy energetic pleasures of sex, and then contracted further into porn: rigid and isolated, infinitely distant from the actual act. The vision of another existence no longer needs to explore the unfolding of human potentials. It can just as easily be maintained in their annihilation. After all, these characters are dealing with the fundamental forces of the universe, but they’re absurdly under-powered. One of them is a superhero by dint of being good at archery. Not that it matters. A made-up world where meaningless heroes fight meaningless monsters with meaningless names. quote:The desire to bring back the dead, to re-present the impressions that have been wiped clean – this isn’t Orpheus, because Orpheus had to go elsewhere, into the underworld, into the future, to smooth over the gaps in the world. In Avengers: Endgame, the journey is into the past, into itself, into the existing body of text, pulling out a section, pasting it into the roving present. It’s the dream the computers have dreamed for us. And this dream is incapable of computing finality. (Even after I publish this review, if I find a typo I can stick my hands back into the thing and fix it.) But the world itself is only a final and oncoming horizon. Is it any wonder, then, that we seem to be so incapable of dealing with something like climate change, stuck in our endlessly editable fantasia? Is it any wonder that you’re wasting your life watching Avengers: Endgame and reading reviews of Avengers: Endgame, even while the circle of light that surrounds you is narrowing, and the blackness tightens closer to crush you through your skin? TheFluff has issued a correction as of 19:41 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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I'm mostly on board with postmodernist ideology, but that is some postmodern psychobabble nonsense there
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that person sounds like theyre a lot of fun at parties
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ikanreed posted:I'm mostly on board with postmodernist ideology, but that is some postmodern psychobabble nonsense there it owns
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some people post lmaos in the trump thread to cope with the insufferable reality, others write several thousand words about derrida and adorno applied to marvel movies and write sentences like "[t]he classical poststructuralist metaphysics of inscription constrains its institution of difference within a horizon of ineradicability" i don't judge, okay
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I was informed recently that David S. Goyer, the writer of The Dark Knight Rises, also wrote Call of Duty: Black Ops 1 & 2.
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vyelkin posted:that person sounds like theyre a lot of fun at parties so fun that the ladies couldn’t get enough of him
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TheFluff posted:it owns when zizek said it is now easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism, at least he offered an alternative. not that I disagree with the review but it doesn't seem to add much to a conversation we've been having for at least a decade
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ikanreed posted:I'm mostly on board with postmodernist ideology, but that is some postmodern psychobabble nonsense there
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Jenny Agutter posted:when zizek said it is now easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism, at least he offered an alternative. not that I disagree with the review but it doesn't seem to add much to a conversation we've been having for at least a decade fair. i did enjoy reading this particular text though
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that stuff TheFluff posted is great just because it's fun to read. It's like a horror story.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:so fun that the ladies couldn’t get enough of him had to look that up, i wasn't familiar with the writer
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I was informed recently that David S. Goyer, the writer of The Dark Knight Rises, also wrote Call of Duty: Black Ops 1 & 2. some motherfuckers always trying to ice-skate uphill
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this article is a better negative review of Avengers: Endgame than Sam Kriss's blathering what blows my mind is that critics universally praised this poo poo. not as a fun popcorn muncher, but as a good example of cinema. even if you believe that hollywood has always been poo poo and movie critics have always praised the worst slop that they're told to like, this is completely unprecedented. Endgame and every other superhero movie would have been considered mindless wastes of time not long ago
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well of course they are mindless wastes of time they are movies.
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The only good superhero movies ARE the mindless wastes of time, like Guardians or Thor: Ragnarok. the cosmic setting is a big sandbox where they can just go hog wild with the action adventure, but as soon as the setting gets dragged back down to Earth everything gets bogged down in sentimental maudlin. Even when Avengers practically endorses universal eugenicide, it only rejects it in terms of narrative because Earth people humans will die like you or me. That's bad.
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i should mention that i've seen a grand total of zero MCU movies, which makes me the cinematic equivalent of a unicorn
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