|
Scooby Doo was drawn in front of a live studio audience
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 15:21
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 01:23 |
|
|
BrigadierSensible posted:I remember Friends as being the platonic ideal of "sitcom". It was beige and bland and safe and whitebread in every single way. Even when they tried to inject some diversity, (Ross's lesbian ex wife, Chandler's trans dad, the one asian and one black girlfriend that Ross had.), it was done in the safest "lets not upset our ratings with middle class white people" way. It became huge, largely because it was so aggressively safe and bland. Yeah, 100% this. It ain't a fuckin mystery.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 15:24
|
|
|
bitterandtwisted posted:Scooby Doo was drawn in front of a live studio audience They had to quit because it was a horrible strain on the artists' wrists.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 17:16
|
|
|
Everybody Loves Raymond is a show about the soul-crushing monotony of a slightly dysfunctional family where everyone is a bland and irredeemable piece of human garbage. Ray is a spoiled brat who never grew up. Debra has a victim-complex. Ray''s mother is a helicopter mother who plays favorites. Frank is a selfish bully. Robert seeks attention at any cost. The kids are poorly behaved monsters. It's like Curb, but on a much subtler level and with a lot less cursing.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 19:36
|
|
|
Bogus Adventure posted:Everybody Loves Raymond is a show about the soul-crushing monotony of a slightly dysfunctional family where everyone is a bland and irredeemable piece of human garbage. Ray is a spoiled brat who never grew up. Debra has a victim-complex. Ray''s mother is a helicopter mother who plays favorites. Frank is a selfish bully. Robert seeks attention at any cost. The kids are poorly behaved monsters. And somehow worse acting (although I kinda like Brad Garrett and Peter Doyle, but the rest of the show, jesus christ)
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 19:39
|
|
|
Bogus Adventure posted:Everybody Loves Raymond is a show about the soul-crushing monotony of a slightly dysfunctional family where everyone is a bland and irredeemable piece of human garbage. Ray is a spoiled brat who never grew up. Debra has a victim-complex. Ray''s mother is a helicopter mother who plays favorites. Frank is a selfish bully. Robert seeks attention at any cost. The kids are poorly behaved monsters. Everybody Loves Raymond is the dad-com. I remember in the 00's it was the heavy rotation syndicated sitcom, and my dad has never made time to watch reruns of a TV show before Raymond started that circuit.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 20:01
|
|
|
Debra is literally the victim. Like half of the show is just the mother character making GBS threads on her
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 20:12
|
|
|
Raymond was a lot funnier before I got married, which I'm guessing is the opposite of how it's supposed to work. Now it hits too close to home, in the sense that I'm forced to imagine what it would actually be like for us to treat each other that way, and it's horrifying. There's still a lot of funny stuff about in-laws and whatnot, but it would play better if the core husband and wife were more supportive of each other. I mean, until season 7. It's always been irredeemable garbage after that point.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 20:56
|
|
|
CharlestheHammer posted:Debra is literally the victim. Like half of the show is just the mother character making GBS threads on her Robert is way more the victim! I think the show is unrealistic in that they made Ray successful at his job. Anyone that favored and coddled growing up should be more of a deadbeat.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:00
|
|
|
artsy fartsy posted:Robert is way more the victim! There can be two victims!
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:01
|
|
|
Maybe I didn’t watch enough episodes because I thought Ray was also supposed to be the victim (but not nearly as much as Robert).
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:14
|
|
|
So, who are the sitcom power couples who did age well?
???
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:14
|
|
|
Hal and Lois were horrific abusers. It utterly baffles me how there are people who defend Lois, especially in the series finale.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:14
|
|
|
Iron Crowned posted:Everybody Loves Raymond is the dad-com. I remember in the 00's it was the heavy rotation syndicated sitcom, and my dad has never made time to watch reruns of a TV show before Raymond started that circuit.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:16
|
|
|
Toshimo posted:So, who are the sitcom power couples who did age well? Uhhhhhhh..... Whoever Drew ended up with in the Drew Carey Show? I was gonna say Titus and Erin on Titus but uh....IRL that went sour fast
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:17
|
|
|
bunnyofdoom posted:Uhhhhhhh..... You know the answer to your first one is your answer to the second one.... Or is that  ?
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:22
|
|
|
The parents on Grounded For Life probably work
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:23
|
|
|
Hank and Peggy Hill
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:26
|
|
|
bobjr posted:Hank and Peggy Hill if anything, their relationship probably improved by miles after Cotton died
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:45
|
|
|
Seeing as how the show was just discussed, Chandler and Monica aged pretty well. It sucks the show was more known for the Ross/Rachel crap when most of the show's seasons seemed to revolve around those two's relationship progressing. I'm genuinely trying to think of anything remotely toxic about that relationship but nope, those two really worked great together. They helped each other to become a better person.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 21:58
|
|
|
SatansOnion posted:if anything, their relationship probably improved by miles after Cotton died I had high hopes that the episode where cotton and peggy dance on his grave would've softened their relationship, but nope.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 22:03
|
|
|
bunnyofdoom posted:Uhhhhhhh..... And his comedy got so bitter afterwards. Like it was never happy comedy but it's all so much more mean spirited
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 22:06
|
|
|
bobjr posted:Hank and Peggy Hill I started working with someone from Texas a year or so ago and holy crap that show is so accurate for a certain type of person. I’ve gained a new appreciation for it.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 22:09
|
|
|
Friends is the text book example of sitcom characters becoming caricatures of themselves in later seasons and making everything unbearable. Like, it wasn't a great series to begin with, just a bland show that might've been progressive for it's time and is anything but by today's standards. But the characters started somewhat believable and ended up just insane by the halfway point. Ross is a raging lunatic instead of just a guy frustrated with life. Joey is a moron incapable of dealing with normal day life instead of just simple. Monica has crippling cleanliness neurosis instead of being just overly neat. Phoebe lived on the streets and denies evolution instead of just being eccentric. gently caress Rachel, she can go to hell. Chandler's ok I guess. My highschool girlfriend LOVED Friends if you're wondering why I have every episode seared to my brain despite hating it. TURTLE SLUT has a new favorite as of 22:41 on Sep 26, 2019 |
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 22:39
|
|
|
Toshimo posted:So, who are the sitcom power couples who did age well? Uncle Phil & Aunt Viv
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 23:21
|
|
|
One of the snags with sitcom couples is that sitcoms generally run on horribly broken people getting up to shenanigans. Functional, normal people with functional, normal lives don't tend to get up to sitcom hijinks. Having a rational person come in, fix everything, and smooth out all the misunderstandings so everybody can get along isn't nearly as funny as everything spinning out of control because everybody is terrible and/or crazy. Even the cool-headed characters will become odd at the right moment, just happen to walk out immediately before they could fix it or see what the plot is, or just carry around an idiot ball for a while.
|
|
#
?
Sep 26, 2019 23:21
|
|
|
Samuringa posted:Uncle Phil & Aunt Viv Which one?
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 00:03
|
|
|
Sabrina's "aunts"
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 00:07
|
|
|
jefferson and weezy no question
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 00:16
|
|
|
Bogus Adventure posted:Everybody Loves Raymond is a show about the soul-crushing monotony of a slightly dysfunctional family where everyone is a bland and irredeemable piece of human garbage. Ray is a spoiled brat who never grew up. Debra has a victim-complex. Ray''s mother is a helicopter mother who plays favorites. Frank is a selfish bully. Robert seeks attention at any cost. The kids are poorly behaved monsters. ToxicSlurpee posted:One of the snags with sitcom couples is that sitcoms generally run on horribly broken people getting up to shenanigans. Functional, normal people with functional, normal lives don't tend to get up to sitcom hijinks. Having a rational person come in, fix everything, and smooth out all the misunderstandings so everybody can get along isn't nearly as funny as everything spinning out of control because everybody is terrible and/or crazy. Even the cool-headed characters will become odd at the right moment, just happen to walk out immediately before they could fix it or see what the plot is, or just carry around an idiot ball for a while.
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 00:27
|
|
|
Matt Lauer shows up a couple times in 30 Rock and is, accidentally hilariously, in the first episode of Kimmy Schmidt.
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 00:30
|
|
|
The Bundys are supposed to be a terrible family, but everything about them is pretty good by today's standards. Stable marriage Full time job Own a house No massive debts No extreme political views Kids are not drug addicts, unplanned teen parents or alt-right school shooters
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 00:35
|
|
|
Iron Crowned posted:The parents on Grounded For Life probably work I remember liking that show in highschool but not sure if it holds up even a little, mostly since I remember very little about it
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 00:39
|
|
Toshimo posted:So, who are the sitcom power couples who did age well? I haven't watched it in a while, but I always thought Still Standing was very under-rated, and the family dynamic wasn't so caustic as something like Raymond. The show also has Mark "King Robert" Addy doing a very impressive American accent.
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 00:40
|
|
|
Shut up Meg posted:
I'm sure that house was mortgaged beyond it's value. And Al was a MRA.
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 02:00
|
|
|
Thranguy posted:I'm sure that house was mortgaged beyond it's value. And Al was a MRA. Al's NO MA'AM was the ur-MRA parody. Apparently some of the people who grew up with the show took the wrong message from it.
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 02:23
|
|
|
tbf kelly was also a kind of walking pregnancy scare, bud was a proto-incel, and seven just... disappeared i do get that a big part of the humour was that the bundys were wretchedly, wretchedly poor despite having the house, a car, a family dog and most luxuries; their personalities were awful and always clashing but the overall family solidarity was top-notch and the unity was very stable in the face of odds their finances were in the green for a while with a microscopic nestegg - the 80s norm being that everyone else was nurturing a proper retirement fund - but they were in astronomical debt after al's shoe phone-line fails but it didn't really change the status quo so i guess it was more of a punchline
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 02:33
|
|
|
Thranguy posted:I'm sure that house was mortgaged beyond it's value. And Al was a MRA. Please do not disparage the good name of NO MA'AM by comparing it to that collection of condom malfunctions.
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 03:45
|
|
|
Last week I posted about shows reusing actors. I'm in the last season of In The Heat of the Night. Virgil Tibbs has become an attorney and his new boss is the same actor that he put away for murdering his high school pal a few seasons back.
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 04:00
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 01:23 |
|
|
Definitely can't deny Al's loyalty. There are plenty of episodes where he's given a chance to bail out on Peg and the kids and ends up staying with them. That episode where they all go to Hell comes to mind. Speaking of bad things that were aged horribly from birth: I remember this old sitcom that starred David Spade. I think Kirstie Allie was in it too. Pretty sure they were working at a fashion magazine, could be wrong about that part. What I definitely remember though was that for awhile, Spade's character was dating a supermodel by having gaslighted her into thinking she was too ugly to even leave the apartment and that he was the only one who loved her for her.
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2019 04:07
|
|