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BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


Nitrousoxide posted:

I started watching this show but I got to about episode 5 and the villains just seem comically incompetent. Do they ever actually pose a threat? The later seasons of the Clone Wars may have spoiled me for having kids shows that actually have dangerous villains.

Episode 5 is still in the midst of the 90's style "Here is a new character! Here's some stereotypical one-shot plot centering on their gimmick! And now that gimmick has been instrumental in beating the bad guys and returning to status quo!". Once everybody is introduced, character growth and lasting consequences between episodes start happening, and everyone starts becoming more fleshed out and engaging as characters. Once you hit about ep 8-9 poo poo starts coming together and by 11 it's fully on.

Definitely treat it as a character drama, and that recognize the most dangerous villains are the personal baggage, insecurities, and trauma that each character carries. At front and center is the lasting damage from Adora and Catra's childhood abuse at the hands of Shadow Weaver.

BurntCornMuffin fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Sep 11, 2019

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Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

CaptainCrunch
Mar 19, 2006
droppin Hamiltons!

I’m glad that I wasn’t the only person to notice Adora’s clumsy Yoni-Block there. :3:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I just binged this show. Scorpia is adorable.

I'm disappointed that they didn't have Catra meet Drunk Adora. Though that maybe might go badly.

Magic and technology have both been big things in He-Man and She-Ra, occasionally coming into play with things like a magical barrier that no living creature can cross, so they send through a robot who doesn't count as one. Usually characters specialise in one or the other, but the lines are more blurred in this show in particular. Bow even outright says that Entrapta is one of the only people who really understands how intertwined magic and science really are.

The Horde seems rather... understaffed and incompetent, but then again, seems kinda fitting; their biggest deal is their technological and logistical advantage, especially given their main strategy is just to send in shitloads of tanks and robots and stick big guns on defensive fortifications. I suppose that's reason why they're training up officer cadets specifically to counter the Princesses, who they can't steamroll as easily. I also get the impression that while the first Princess Alliance may have ended badly probably involving a lot of the older generation getting wiped out, they possibly took most of the Horde's leadership with them.

SHVPS4DETH
Mar 19, 2009

seen so much i'm going blind
and i'm brain-dead virtually





Ramrod XTreme

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm disappointed that they didn't have Catra meet Drunk Adora. Though that maybe might go badly.

you skipped s3?

Nerdietalk
Dec 23, 2014

I don't think Catra ever directly encounters Drunk Adora for more than a second.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
This is an amusing little recap. Particularly Adora's dead-eyed camera stare.

https://twitter.com/DreamWorksSheRa/status/1177251484033044492

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm not the first one to guess that Angella is totally in Eternia, right?

Also, Adora might be the only girl who isn't gay for Catra.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Sep 27, 2019

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm not the first one to guess that Angella is totally in Eternia, right?

I don't think they're going to go for actually ever showing Eternia as an actual place. With the Kevin Smith Masters of the Universe show in the works, it might be a conflict.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Catra is an original definition incel wake up sheeple

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
The Motu show from Smith is probably years away so they could always do their version of Eternia before it comes out.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Rights are probably tangled up though. Though who knows how it works with this.

Maybe Angella comes back out of nowhere in a season after having had lots of offscreen adventures in a strange land and totally punched a skeleton man in the face that one time.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Nap Ghost
I hope she's dead. Not because I dislike the character but because I hate bait and switch fake deaths to force drama on the audience and then retcon it when it's inconvenient for the character to be dead or even worse when they need a surprise deus ex machina.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I’m secretly hoping somehow it’s brought back Glimmer’s dad.

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

They’re totally setting it up for her to come back though. The whole “wait I’m not-!” thing had to mean something.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Besides, they never said what she was doing would kill her. It would just trap her between dimensions on a way they didn't know how to reverse.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Elephant Ambush posted:

I hope she's dead. Not because I dislike the character but because I hate bait and switch fake deaths to force drama on the audience and then retcon it when it's inconvenient for the character to be dead or even worse when they need a surprise deus ex machina.

Given that the show has already used the plot device of characters thinking someone is dead when really she's just been abandoned in an inaccessible location even though the audience knows the truth, I see no reason to believe they wouldn't do it again.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

wizzardstaff posted:

Given that the show has already used the plot device of characters thinking someone is dead when really she's just been abandoned in an inaccessible location even though the audience knows the truth, I see no reason to believe they wouldn't do it again.

The way they did it made a lot of sense as far as Entrapta being in a timed incineration room, and I liked the chain of events it kicked off.

galenanorth fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Sep 28, 2019

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Again, the show explicitly said that Angela didn't die. She just imprisoned herself between dimensions. Entrapta should be able to get her out of that eventually.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Nap Ghost

Darth Walrus posted:

Again, the show explicitly said that Angela didn't die. She just imprisoned herself between dimensions. Entrapta should be able to get her out of that eventually.

For all intents and purposes that means "dead", but this is She-Ra so anything is possible.

And yes Mica is absolutely not dead but I have no idea how or why. Maybe he was imprisoned somehow. Maybe Shadow Weaver teleported him somewhere far away and safe to prevent him from dying during the war.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Elephant Ambush posted:

For all intents and purposes that means "dead", but this is She-Ra so anything is possible.

And yes Mica is absolutely not dead but I have no idea how or why. Maybe he was imprisoned somehow. Maybe Shadow Weaver teleported him somewhere far away and safe to prevent him from dying during the war.

I can see that happening. Hordak orders Shadow Weaver to send King Micah to Beast Island, but she still has a soft spot for him so she gives him things he needs to survive there.

Also Angella needs to come back because poor Glimmer doesn't need Shadow Weaver to become some sort of mentor figure.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Glimmer's just gonna hafta join the rest of the princesses in the Batman club.

I'm getting vibes from Entrapta and Hordak like when a naive and socially inept (and possibly on the spectrum) girl is just so fascinated with a troubled and dangerous boy who makes the slightest shows of appreciation and can't see the red flags of how he's definitely going to end up possessive and abusive. I mean, on top of her more or less being a war criminal at this point.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I mean, on top of her more or less being a war criminal at this point.

"I was just following my hypotheses!" :science:

CuwiKhons
Sep 24, 2009

Seven idiots and a bear walk into a dragon's lair.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Glimmer's just gonna hafta join the rest of the princesses in the Batman club.

I'm getting vibes from Entrapta and Hordak like when a naive and socially inept (and possibly on the spectrum) girl is just so fascinated with a troubled and dangerous boy who makes the slightest shows of appreciation and can't see the red flags of how he's definitely going to end up possessive and abusive. I mean, on top of her more or less being a war criminal at this point.

I actually think Hordak is more interested in Entrapta than she is in him. She likes him for sure, don't get me wrong, but so far she's seen him as a lab partner and a friend (which she's very excited about!). Hordak's the one who sees anime sparkles around her and stumbles over his compliments like a 7th grader asking someone to the school dance.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

CuwiKhons posted:

I actually think Hordak is more interested in Entrapta than she is in him. She likes him for sure, don't get me wrong, but so far she's seen him as a lab partner and a friend (which she's very excited about!). Hordak's the one who sees anime sparkles around her and stumbles over his compliments like a 7th grader asking someone to the school dance.

Point there. Doesn't help that Hordak outside his armour suddenly stops looking like a growly middle-aged overlord and more like a sickly teenager.

Between his sparing presence in early seasons and his alien design he kinda gives the idea of having dropped into Etheria from another genre outright. Also interesting that he's pretty much a total opposite of any incarnation of Skeletor thus far, complete with having an intimidating face but a weak and skeletal body.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

The_Doctor posted:

I’m secretly hoping somehow it’s brought back Glimmer’s dad.

Glimmer's dad said "Wait, I'm not d---" and got cut off, so he's probably alive somewhere.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
"I hope this mom is dead" says Elephant Ambush about cartoon mom in a series aimed at small girls.

Like, what?

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Nap Ghost

Mordaedil posted:

"I hope this mom is dead" says Elephant Ambush about cartoon mom in a series aimed at small girls.

Like, what?

:rolleyes:

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Mordaedil posted:

"I hope this mom is dead" says Elephant Ambush about cartoon mom in a series aimed at small girls.

Like, what?

Oh will no one think of the children?

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Mordaedil posted:

"I hope this mom is dead" says Elephant Ambush about cartoon mom in a series aimed at small girls.

Like, what?
Let's accuse them of having psychological problems and have a moronic three page derail over it that was fun last time

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

i hope entrapta is loving DEAD hell yeah

then she can come back as a cool skeleton

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
A Skelleta if you will.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

I'm looking forward to Season 4 because it will have Scorpia in it... I wish I knew when it was coming out though. :sigh:

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Nap Ghost
Any season with Scorpia is a good season.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

evilmiera posted:

A Skelleta if you will.

Skeletelle.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Also, Adora might be the only girl who isn't gay for Catra.

Nah, it's just that ship sailed a long time ago.

Also, "Catra makes bad decisions" (from Adora) is probably the best description I've heard of her.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
The spoookiest pasta.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Mr.Pibbleton posted:

I'm looking forward to Season 4 because it will have Scorpia in it... I wish I knew when it was coming out though. :sigh:

I want Scorpia and Entrapta to go off and have adventures together

The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Does Entrapta have some kind of Southern accent? She reminds me a lot of Mina Loveberry from Star Vs The Forces of Evil. Maybe just a generic 'wacky' female voice? I'm not good with regional American accents.

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