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AceOfFlames posted:If I were a philanthropist hell yeah I would control every dollar. Not to make people "dance" but to make sure that, say, if I invested in medical or evironmental research that it would go to actual research instead of vanishing into "administration costs" (i.e. the pockets of the senior lab executives) it's hosed up mentalities like these that lead to a village of 500 getting 80,000 malaria mosquito nets and inadequate food, water and medication aid. because overzealous idiots with some extra dollars to spend and a fundamental misunderstanding of how international aid works do not, in fact, know what the best use of that money will be on the other side of the world. also, it's weird to think that civil society organizations and non-profits should not pay their employees
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God Hole posted:also, it's weird to think that civil society organizations and non-profits should not pay their employees I'm not saying they shouldn't be paid, I'm saying that we shouldn't get poo poo like the Susan G Komen CEO making $600k and partnering up with companies that make products that make CAUSE cancer. If I had Jeff Bezos money, I'd have auditors on their rear end to stop that poo poo. Paying the rank and file decently? Of course! Just make sure the money isn't being embezzled, set a hard limit on exec pay and make sure they are getting results. AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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Sep 27, 2019 09:56
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Getting every donated dollar into a rich fucker's pocket instead of anywhere useful is the entire point of rich person charity.
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Sep 27, 2019 10:03
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/louis-ck-toronto-shows-1.5300706quote:Embattled comic Louis C.K. is coming to Toronto for a string of standup dates, and he's imposing some pretty strict conditions on the audience. Prohibiting recordings isn't unusual, but I'm guessing Louis C.K. didn't always have that stipulation in his performance contracts? Not sure he has to worry about anyone stealing his lovely new material when he's waving it around in front of a large audience.
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Sep 28, 2019 21:07
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Oh no Carlos Mencia is pretending to write a big tip for the waitress but is actually writing down his fish dick jokes
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Sep 28, 2019 21:15
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Stahlgeist posted:Prohibiting recordings isn't unusual, but I'm guessing Louis C.K. didn't always have that stipulation in his performance contracts? Prohibiting recording is pretty standard under ASCAP / BMI licensing, but it's almost never enforced. There have been a few weird circumstances of people having to put their cell phone in a Ziploc bag or a locker prior to entering the venue, but it's not really common. It depends upon the state and municipality, but rent-a-cops doing pat-downs to see if patrons have cell phones in their pockets is generally highly illegal. quote:Not sure he has to worry about anyone stealing his lovely new material when he's waving it around in front of a large audience. I see what you did there.
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Sep 28, 2019 21:52
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That’s old shriveled material tho
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Sep 28, 2019 22:41
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No "note taking". Get loving real. This guy takes himself too seriously.
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Sep 28, 2019 22:57
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Timby posted:Prohibiting recording is pretty standard under ASCAP / BMI licensing, but it's almost never enforced. There have been a few weird circumstances of people having to put their cell phone in a Ziploc bag or a locker prior to entering the venue, but it's not really common. It depends upon the state and municipality, but rent-a-cops doing pat-downs to see if patrons have cell phones in their pockets is generally highly illegal. I always wonder how easy it would be to give them a dummy phone and sneak in your actual phone like Lucius Fox did in The Dark Knight. Or bring in one of those pairs of glasses with a camera lens embedded.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I always wonder how easy it would be to give them a dummy phone and sneak in your actual phone like Lucius Fox did in The Dark Knight. Or bring in one of those pairs of glasses with a camera lens embedded. They're selling glasses with Alexa built in now. If you're determined and willing to drop some cash it's near trivial to sneak in an HD camera and audio recorder they probably wouldn't be able to find even with a pat down.
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Sep 28, 2019 23:48
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Skwirl posted:They're selling glasses with Alexa built in now. I realize the reality is likely different, but all I can imagine is a pair of glasses that constantly light up and loudly declare “Hmm, I don’t know that” or “Amazon music is currently streaming on another device. If you sign up for the family plan...” while I frantically scream at it to get it to stop.
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Sep 29, 2019 07:47
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sneaking in overpriced silicon valley spyglasses to record louis' bad jokes he's trying out
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1178218128221855744
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inb4 2 Fast 2 Furious jokes
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Timby posted:Prohibiting recording is pretty standard under ASCAP / BMI licensing, but it's almost never enforced. There have been a few weird circumstances of people having to put their cell phone in a Ziploc bag or a locker prior to entering the venue, but it's not really common. It depends upon the state and municipality, but rent-a-cops doing pat-downs to see if patrons have cell phones in their pockets is generally highly illegal. It’s becoming more and more common. Chappelle did it for a lot of his recent gigs as did The Misfits.
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Sep 29, 2019 14:11
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I had to turn in my phone at an advance screenings and ing of the first Kick rear end film.
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Sep 29, 2019 17:31
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A few people I’ve seen in the last 5+ years have asked the audience to enjoy the moment. Rappers, bands and Comedy Bang Bang; not a demand; if you wanted to view it through your tiny screen go ahead. Majority of audience did it and it was pleasant to not see a sea of phones in front of us!
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Sep 30, 2019 04:38
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It makes sense for a comedian because if you wrote an hour of material and it takes you 6 months to workshop it to get it ready to record and some brojob posts the whole thing on YouTube then you’ve basically lost a year of work for no value.
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Bust Rodd posted:It makes sense for a comedian because if you wrote an hour of material and it takes you 6 months to workshop it to get it ready to record and some brojob posts the whole thing on YouTube then you’ve basically lost a year of work for no value. Somehow countless other comedians survive this, as well as comedians who actively have their material available for viewing via youtube/streaming/etc.
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Bust Rodd posted:It makes sense for a comedian because if you wrote an hour of material and it takes you 6 months to workshop it to get it ready to record and some brojob posts the whole thing on YouTube then you’ve basically lost a year of work for no value. The only way this ever happens anymore is if the whole thing is staged as PR. YouTube is razor-sharp with copyright claims from anyone like Loius. Also, your posting iit is valuable exclusively as a case study of someone who identifies with a powerful, predatory abuser and doesn't even think of the victims (let alone think of them as human) and has great trouble discussing the topic without it turning into a weird fantasy projection of the emotional drama of a celebrity they like.
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This thread is toxic poo (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Hodgepodge posted:The only way this ever happens anymore is if the whole thing is staged as PR. YouTube is razor-sharp with copyright claims from anyone like Loius. You took a post in which I named or identified zero comedians and projected your nonsense fantasy on to it in an attempt to “own me” on line in a sub-forum dedicated to overanalyzing movies, you’re a creep & dweeb. Stealing people’s content is wrong, I’m not defending anybody. Posts like these are why every other sub forum makes fun of CineD. ImpAtom posted:Somehow countless other comedians survive this, as well as comedians who actively have their material available for viewing via youtube/streaming/etc. Not every comedian’s hour is worth millions of dollars. Dave Chappell stands to lose a lot more money to a pirate than Nate Bergatze
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Cracked.com, of all places, has an article about how everybody knew that R. Kelly married Aaliyah when she was 15 but that it was okay because she wore a midriff: https://www.cracked.com/article_26723_how-media-couldve-killed-r.-kellys-career-decades-ago.html
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Bust Rodd posted:Not every comedian’s hour is worth millions of dollars. Dave Chappell stands to lose a lot more money to a pirate than Nate Bergatze Dave Chapelle literally had a TV show and multiple stand-up specials. If a YouTube of his jokes loses him millions of dollars then why is he making his jokes publicly available. We are not in the era where 'joke thieves' are a concern anymore.
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Lmao at 'Kevin Hart Memorial Computer Lab'.
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ImpAtom posted:Dave Chapelle literally had a TV show and multiple stand-up specials. If a YouTube of his jokes loses him millions of dollars then why is he making his jokes publicly available. Are you arguing in favor of people being able to record live performances against the artist’s wishes? I don’t get your point at all.
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Bust Rodd posted:Are you arguing in favor of people being able to record live performances against the artist’s wishes? I don’t get your point at all. I am saying it isn't a meaningful enough risk to require hard lockdown. This behavior isn't about protecting their comedy. It is about avoiding footage of them saying terrible things circulating.
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ImpAtom posted:I am saying it isn't a meaningful enough risk to require hard lockdown. This behavior isn't about protecting their comedy. It is about avoiding footage of them saying terrible things circulating. I just don't buy that considering if anything hasn't time shown that these incendiary comments are basically great for ratings? Like Sticks & Stones is Chappelle's most watched special by a wide margin?
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Sep 30, 2019 17:23
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The no phones thing isn't about joke theft or damage control, it's to prevent bootlegs that could hurt sales.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:The no phones thing isn't about joke theft or damage control, it's to prevent bootlegs that could hurt sales. Louis CK is banning taking notes on paper with a pen, I don't think there's a huge bootleg market for written transcripts of comedy shows.
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Skwirl posted:Louis CK is banning taking notes on paper with a pen, I don't think there's a huge bootleg market for written transcripts of comedy shows. Yeah that's pretty dumb. I was referring to having to put your phone into a locked pouch which us pretty standard at a lot of bigger clubs now, at least here in NY.
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A while back Patton Oswalt found out that some hack stole huge chunks, verbatim, of an album Patton had recorded and tried to pass them off as their own material. The thief in question was caught because Patton found out because someone recorded and uploaded it to Youtube. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2010/04/30/patton-oswalt-outraged-at_n_559148.html?ri18n=true
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I went to a comedy show in the basement of a pizza shack No one gave a poo poo about phones. Cause we were in a pizza basement
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DarkSol posted:Bad people can do good things, but it doesn't negate that they are bad people. Am I impressed with Hart's philanthropic efforts? Sure, but it doesn't erase his homophobia. Especially since it's not a one off incident that he later apologized for and was contrite about. Hypothetically, is there any amount of good that can stop someone from being a bad person, or is it a line that can't be uncrossed type situation once you've said no homo on twitter? Not saying he specifically has done enough, just would it be possible?
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Skwirl posted:Louis CK is banning taking notes on paper with a pen, I don't think there's a huge bootleg market for written transcripts of comedy shows. *opens up raincoat full of post-its* sup dude wanna buy a joke?
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Yeah that's pretty dumb. I was referring to having to put your phone into a locked pouch which us pretty standard at a lot of bigger clubs now, at least here in NY. The company that does the lock bags for venues is owned by Chris Rock and charges a hefty sum. That’s probably the biggest reason for the prevalence, more so than any protection aspect.
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Bust Rodd posted:You took a post in which I named or identified zero comedians and projected your nonsense fantasy on to it in an attempt to “own me” on line in a sub-forum dedicated to overanalyzing movies, you’re a creep & dweeb. Stealing people’s content is wrong, I’m not defending anybody. Posts like these are why every other sub forum makes fun of CineD. This isn't even a coherent rely, it's just a collection of deflections and narcassistic paranoia.
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Hodgepodge posted:This isn't even a coherent rely, it's just a collection of deflections and narcassistic paranoia. Turn on your monitor
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All this also seems to be ignoring the more obvious reason that Louis is doing this because he doesn't want people to find out that he's still doing a mix of alt-right and "kids these days" jokes, after he got mocked for a few days last time. That's the reason for no notes. If he was just worried about bootlegs or joke theft, YouTube copyright is probably more than capable.
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I remember some comedian (it might have been Chapelle?) saying that the bad thing about people recording standup is that especially early in one's standup career, you're supposed to do a lot of shows, bomb extremely often and see what works and what doesn't, and that now all your mistakes can be recorded and used to trash your credibility even if you don't say anything problematic. I guess that was just a lot of bullshit, huh? That statement really got to me since I have a crippling fear of failure and having a running tally of all my mistakes is terrifying to me.
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