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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Maybe I should listen to Lords of Limited. I have been on the Limited Resources train and I like LSV but Marshall... eh How do you not like Marshall? He's like the most easy going least offensive person. I find LSV to be much more obnoxious but you can still listen because you can't deny he's extremely knowledgeable. The Lords of Limited guys are fine but they are just your run of the mill above average magic nerds.
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I extra hated Faerie Vandal with my deck because the white pacificism equivalent in this set only works on ground creatures so stopping that thing after it gets a couple of counters on it gets real hairy.
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Thanks, I think I might be set for card draw and 1/1s... Need to make some final cuts and I think in this deck it might be Syr Faren lol
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axeil posted:Just an incredible match. It's a shame that Traditional Draft is so expensive because I think bo3 is much more interesting than bo1. It feels so good to go all the way, though. Packs and profit! Plus the matches take much longer, presumably 'cause people actually take things seriously (especially after game one), which while occasionally frustrating does mean you get more "entertainment" per dollar out of them.
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Kanfy posted:I extra hated Faerie Vandal with my deck because the white pacificism equivalent in this set only works on ground creatures so stopping that thing after it gets a couple of counters on it gets real hairy. Yeah thats what I was thinking. I just got shithoused out of a limited draft yesterday from the Vandals when I was running white mostly because I couldn't trap in the tower them. Happened again today. Combine that with some really solid fliers in blue and a lack for everyone else and it looks like it's a strong as gently caress archetype.
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Siggy is also having an uh, game on his stream. It's been like 25 minutes of just game one. Who would win, infinite broomsticks or two angry Raven bois setting off a nuclear explosion should they ever attack E: It was 37 brooms in the end but the birds won, and I'm starting to feel like that card is legitimately problematic in multiples. Not necessarily for their strength but purely because they can so easily grind the game to a complete standstill. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Oct 1, 2019 |
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Oct 1, 2019 20:00
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For quests in this game, can I just directly challenge a friend and still earn credit towards completing quests, or is it like Hearthstone where they only give you credit if you play against random people?
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W.T. Fits posted:For quests in this game, can I just directly challenge a friend and still earn credit towards completing quests, or is it like Hearthstone where they only give you credit if you play against random people? Hearthstone actually lets you get credit vs friends now. You can even let your friends play one of your decks in direct challenge games. Supposedly that feature is coming to magic, probably after friend lists.
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W.T. Fits posted:For quests in this game, can I just directly challenge a friend and still earn credit towards completing quests, or is it like Hearthstone where they only give you credit if you play against random people? Gotta play vs randos I'm afraid. I got no credit in my 30 black spells quest for trying my Golgari Knights deck against a friend last night.
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axeil posted:I had an amazing Traditional draft last night against someone who got Revenge of Ravens on the board. We were tied 1-1, I had won Game 1 by just out valuing their cards, they won Game 2 by out aggro-ing me. wait why didn't they just ping you for 1 during their upkeep but before their draw step?
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Kanfy posted:Siggy is also having an uh, game on his stream. It's been like 25 minutes of just game one. Yeah I'm growing skeptical of the limited card eval that has the Ravens as a lower end card. If you want to run a control limited deck they're absolutely incredible, especially if you can get multiples on the board. However it does make it so you need an alternate win condition (ideally milling your opponent) as you likely won't want to or be able to attack without losing your board advantage. A big flaming stink posted:wait why didn't they just ping you for 1 during their upkeep but before their draw step? Probably because they forgot to turn on full control to do so. I think the game normally does upkeep/untap/draw all at once.
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axeil posted:Probably because they forgot to turn on full control to do so. I think the game normally does upkeep/untap/draw all at once. The game really does not teach that stuff at all
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Spiderdrake posted:Yeah for fun think back to the number of times you saw someone upkeep out burn spells with Experimental Frenzy i wish you could set custom triggers like modo lets you do 
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axeil posted:Yeah I'm growing skeptical of the limited card eval that has the Ravens as a lower end card. If you want to run a control limited deck they're absolutely incredible, especially if you can get multiples on the board. However it does make it so you need an alternate win condition (ideally milling your opponent) as you likely won't want to or be able to attack without losing your board advantage. Yeah, LSV changed his rating for it from 1.5 to 3.5 and Deathsie from a D to an A. Again I think it's only a real problem in multiples and they are thankfully uncommon but bots are also letting them by real loosely at the moment.
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Played Golos against a Fires + Fae of Wishes deck in BO3 today and that deck was doing some pretty broken things with that combo. I ended up winning the match, but only because my opponent's time ran out. He had Nicol Bolas + Ugin + Oko + Chandra-6 on board and pretty much had me locked up.
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Fires having a good matchup into golos will be a really big deal. Golos doesnt have a ton of bad matchups otherwise afaict.
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No Wave posted:Fires having a good matchup into golos will be a really big deal. Golos doesnt have a ton of bad matchups otherwise afaict. Golos dies pretty hard to aggro in my opinion. I have much better success in BO3 vs BO1, due to 1) less aggro matchups and 2) No opening hand smoothing. Edit: Additional Golos chat: Deck does not really need all 4-ofs in my opinion. I took out a Once Upon A Time, Realm-Cloaked Giant, and Krasis and replaced them with 2 Agent of Treachery + 1 Planar Cleansing. Treachery should definitely be mainboard in this current meta IMO, since Planeswalkers are still hard to deal with and this also makes Golos activations better. Also very useful in the mirror to take your opponent's Fields. qbert fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Oct 1, 2019 |
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Kanfy posted:Yeah, LSV changed his rating for it from 1.5 to 3.5 and Deathsie from a D to an A. Again I think it's only a real problem in multiples and they are thankfully uncommon but bots are also letting them by real loosely at the moment. I would love it if WOTC made Traditional Draft a human draft and leave the bots for Ranked. The game really becomes "exploit the bots" after a while and it's not nearly as interesting as doing it with humans. There's next to no color signaling for one.
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Draft is more interesting immediately after a rotation, before everyone is playing the same few decks.
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lol I just lost a match to the mill deck is this real I should have boarded in 40 lands or some poo poo for game 3 I'm gonna go 1-2 in this Trad Draft most likely ugh EDIT gently caress HOW DOES THIS PIECE OF poo poo OPP HAVE 3 OUTFLANKS IN HAND CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Oct 1, 2019 |
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There is nothing better than playing a ceratops against simic flash and watching them suffer. gently caress that deck.
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axeil posted:I would love it if WOTC made Traditional Draft a human draft and leave the bots for Ranked. The game really becomes "exploit the bots" after a while and it's not nearly as interesting as doing it with humans. There's next to no color signaling for one. Did Wizards confirm whether they are working on this or not? I wouldn't hold your hopes out, the minute they put pod drafting on Arena MTGO is basically dead, as not only will no-one draft there apart from a few cube sickos (and there is talk of adding cube to Arena anyway) new cards will become absurdly expensive since no-one will be opening them.
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Magic Underwear posted:There is nothing better than playing a ceratops against simic flash and watching them suffer. gently caress that deck. I beat a Simic flash yesterday with my homebrew Golem deck. He conceded after my unblockable Gingerbrute used three Heartpiercer bows to wipe away his Spectral Sailors (the Brineborne got blown up by a Vial of Dragonfire). Very satisfying.
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Revenge of Ravens just seems like this format's Ill-Gotten Inheritance, with the added benefit of shutting down some decks even at one copy.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:The "P2P1" dilemma. Do I ditch green to play serpent? I am trying to be disciplined and not go three colors especially in this set you have 2 good green cards, it's time to bail into dimir
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I've been using draftsim to practice drafting without burning gems. https://draftsim.com/draft.php?mode=Draft_ELD
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After getting maimed and mutilated by a mill deck I got completely run over by BW outflanking all my creatures and then bashing me in the air with 3/3 fliers, what was that about "this set doesn't have strong fliers so your 1/1s will be great"
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I still can't believe I got nuked by Folio of Fancies, mill 11 over two turns
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No Wave/Zyla, y'all are just running that MPL list?
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zoux posted:No Wave/Zyla, y'all are just running that MPL list? yep
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The MD is all over the place with 2 and 1-ofs, I guess it's casting a wide net and then nailing it down postboard. This one I mean from league, I was mistaken about there being a list in the MPL
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zoux posted:The MD is all over the place with 2 and 1-ofs, I guess it's casting a wide net and then nailing it down postboard. yep thats the one
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Spiderdrake posted:The game really does not teach stuff at all   'fun' with crafting evaluation; leading high tier here is both yarok field and simic flash, leaving me stuff leftover perhaps even for a mono black list JainDoh fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Oct 2, 2019 |
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Magic Underwear posted:There is nothing better than playing a ceratops against simic flash and watching them suffer. gently caress that deck. There's a lot of decks I hate playing against because they're annoying, like Grixis or Feather, but god drat are counter spell slammers the worst dregs of the game. It gets extra annoying when Simic Flash players don't play things on their turn like a turn 1 opt that they could easily play but instead choose to wait for my turn just to rub it in a bit more that I'm not going to have any fun winning or losing this match.
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Doltos posted:There's a lot of decks I hate playing against because they're annoying, like Grixis or Feather, but god drat are counter spell slammers the worst dregs of the game. It gets extra annoying when Simic Flash players don't play things on their turn like a turn 1 opt that they could easily play but instead choose to wait for my turn just to rub it in a bit more that I'm not going to have any fun winning or losing this match. what you do changes how i scry, waiting until eot is the correct play
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Arglebargle III posted:
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Justin_Brett posted:Foulmire Knight seems reasonable. yea it's the most powerful card in the pack aside from covetous urge, but urge has too restrictive of a casting cost to take when you have too solid red cards
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Doltos posted:There's a lot of decks I hate playing against because they're annoying, like Grixis or Feather, but god drat are counter spell slammers the worst dregs of the game. It gets extra annoying when Simic Flash players don't play things on their turn like a turn 1 opt that they could easily play but instead choose to wait for my turn just to rub it in a bit more that I'm not going to have any fun winning or losing this match. they're waiting to see what deck you're playing before they decide to scry to the top or bottom
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