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Steen71
Apr 10, 2017

Fun Shoe

trdn89 posted:

not quite sure where to brag about this but holy poo poo I am actually going to be seeing the Satantango restoration this month

Do you know if they're projecting it digitally?

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zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
It's been a year and still no blu or uhd of that yo soy cuba 4k scan. Unless you wanna cough up a few hundred bucks for the educational only blu release

killin' me milestone. at least screen the drat thing more or something

trdn89
Aug 16, 2008

Steen71 posted:

Do you know if they're projecting it digitally?

I'd bet anything that it's going to be a DCP; the other screening in town is listed as such, and it can't be cost-effective for a small outfit like Arbelos to strike prints of a 450 minute movie. Either way, it's the 4K restoration so I'm sure it'll look a billion times better than the DVDs I've been watching for a decade.

Fun story: the first time I tried to watch Satantango I was about three hours into a :lsd: experience. Don't do this.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

zer0spunk posted:

It's been a year and still no blu or uhd of that yo soy cuba 4k scan. Unless you wanna cough up a few hundred bucks for the educational only blu release

killin' me milestone. at least screen the drat thing more or something

They’re literally run by two people (Dennis Doros and his wife Amy Heller) plus the occasional student, so give some slack.

trdn89
Aug 16, 2008
speaking of miraculous theatrical screenings, if you live in SF, please go see all of this extremely long, apparently outrageously awesome movie:

https://www.roxie.com/ai1ec_event/la-flor/?instance_id=36788

it drives me CRAZY that the only BD release of this so far doesn't have English subs. CRAZY.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

803 minutes... :stare:

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

GrandpaPants posted:

803 minutes... :stare:

I could understand if you have it on video and you just watched it in segments, but anyone sitting in a theater to watch something that long is a loving psychopath.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

CPL593H posted:

I could understand if you have it on video and you just watched it in segments, but anyone sitting in a theater to watch something that long is a loving psychopath.

It's presented across four nights, so that's something.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Timby posted:

It's presented across four nights, so that's something.

That makes more sense because otherwise why would someone do that to themself?

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

CPL593H posted:

That makes more sense because otherwise why would someone do that to themself?
I mean back-to-back-to-back showings of the LotR trilogy was a thing

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

david_a posted:

I mean back-to-back-to-back showings of the LotR trilogy was a thing

And they were the extended versions too. But I always thought the people who went to those were loving nuts. How is that even enjoyable?

trdn89
Aug 16, 2008
I mean, when I wat saw Out 1 (a 13 hour movie) it was screened over the course of a weekend. It was basically like marathoning two seasons (or so) of a tv show. It was exhausting but that exhaustion is part of the experience of the movie.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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CPL593H posted:

That makes more sense because otherwise why would someone do that to themself?

So I’ll put you down as a ‘maybe’ for my screening of A Cure For Insomnia.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

CPL593H posted:

And they were the extended versions too. But I always thought the people who went to those were loving nuts. How is that even enjoyable?

A friend of mine in Ohio is a huge LOTR turbonerd and a theater near him does back-to-back-to-back screenings annually. He and his wife dress up in costume and go every single year.

The mind, it boggles.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

CPL593H posted:

And they were the extended versions too. But I always thought the people who went to those were loving nuts. How is that even enjoyable?
I don’t think I could do that now. I had a week-long break back in school where I was stuck alone at home out in the country taking care of the animals and I watched like 3-4 movies a day for like 5 days straight just to do it. I made sure to walk outside between every movie but it was like 100 degrees so that wasn’t fun either.

Post-college I think the most I binged in one session was the Samurai Trilogy accidentally (I watched the first two and, I mean, might as well watch the third...). That’s “only” a little over 5 hours though and I still felt dazed afterwards.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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CPL593H posted:

And they were the extended versions too. But I always thought the people who went to those were loving nuts. How is that even enjoyable?

I watched the entire Nightmare on Elm Street series at a theater. Took 12 hours and it was loving awesome

I, Butthole
Jun 30, 2007

Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT
I'm seriously considering going to a film festival to watch the entire 7ish hours of War and Peace on Monday.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

CPL593H posted:

And they were the extended versions too. But I always thought the people who went to those were loving nuts. How is that even enjoyable?

I watched my EE Lord of the Rings DVDs back to back once ten years ago because I had a job interview the next day, and needed to reduce my anxiety levels. I probably wouldn't do that again today, but at the time I would also take breaks between discs, and pause it whenever I needed to hit the bathroom and do normal people things.

I think that was actually the last time I watched LOTR

charles.
Mar 2, 2019

Egbert Souse posted:

Apparently, then new 4K of Pan's Labyrinth is a bust. The included Blu doesn't even use the remaster Criterion used, but rather just the 2007 Blu-ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgP3kY9Ka8

Not sure what's going on at Warner Home Video, but it's becoming more apparent the Warner Archive guys have nothing to do with their mainstream releases.

It's not a total bust. The HDR looks great and gives it very natural feeling depth. It is however an upscale and doesn't resolve any more detail, and it's a touch softer. Not lionsgate film-out soft, but it makes me think the Criterion release was actually sharpened, it doesn't look to me like DNR on this new release, but I could be wrong.
Judge for yourself: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13426&d2=8960&s1=134646&s2=86189&i=1&l=1&a=2
(Obviously the HDR looks better on a proper display than on SDR converted caps)

But also the black level has been corrected in the UHD. Overall you'd have a better experience watching this, on an HDR display, than the SD Blu. But it's still not what we should be getting out of a 4K release.

Also don't watch youtube reviews of UHDs lol not a single one of them has a clue.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
The Shining UHD is absolutely stunning. Maybe THE best release the format has to offer up to this point. The film sucks you in on a level that is just didn't before, there's an immediacy to it that jumps right out at you right away. It's also one of the most even grains I've seen on a UHD, like with the opening heli shots I figured there might be some over the top grain there but nope, it was perfect. I can't think of a single scene where I noticed uneven grain.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

Basebf555 posted:

The Shining UHD is absolutely stunning. Maybe THE best release the format has to offer up to this point. The film sucks you in on a level that is just didn't before, there's an immediacy to it that jumps right out at you right away. It's also one of the most even grains I've seen on a UHD, like with the opening heli shots I figured there might be some over the top grain there but nope, it was perfect. I can't think of a single scene where I noticed uneven grain.
Goddamn it that’s another double-dip I guess

I really need to start selling some of my DVDs/BRs

charles.
Mar 2, 2019

Basebf555 posted:

The Shining UHD is absolutely stunning. Maybe THE best release the format has to offer up to this point. The film sucks you in on a level that is just didn't before, there's an immediacy to it that jumps right out at you right away. It's also one of the most even grains I've seen on a UHD, like with the opening heli shots I figured there might be some over the top grain there but nope, it was perfect. I can't think of a single scene where I noticed uneven grain.

That's because it's very likely been grain managed. There's still plenty there, it's just had a little taken off the top, and probably to keep every scene consistent.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

charles. posted:

That's because it's very likely been grain managed. There's still plenty there, it's just had a little taken off the top, and probably to keep every scene consistent.

Not sure if "grain managed" is meant as a criticism but the whole presentation really really worked for me. It's the kind of consistent grain that gives the image a more natural feel but is never distracting. And it probably goes with out saying that HDR + Kubrick= amazing

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
Not that I've tried the alternative, but I definitely think movie marathons are better at home. There at least has to be the option of doing something else for a few minutes. LOTR marathon is a good time, but that's the way to do it.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Basebf555 posted:

The Shining UHD is absolutely stunning. Maybe THE best release the format has to offer up to this point. The film sucks you in on a level that is just didn't before, there's an immediacy to it that jumps right out at you right away. It's also one of the most even grains I've seen on a UHD, like with the opening heli shots I figured there might be some over the top grain there but nope, it was perfect. I can't think of a single scene where I noticed uneven grain.

Seems like it helps that it’s an A/B camera negative and they even recomposited the main titles. There’s only one optical effect shot in the entire film, so we’re pretty much seeing straight camera negative. Also that Motion Picture Imaging does miraculous work and Leon Vitali was overseeing it.

2001 is a lot tougher since the 65mm negative has a lot of replacement dupes due to damage despite nearly all the original shots being in camera optical.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Egbert Souse posted:

Seems like it helps that it’s an A/B camera negative and they even recomposited the main titles. There’s only one optical effect shot in the entire film, so we’re pretty much seeing straight camera negative. Also that Motion Picture Imaging does miraculous work and Leon Vitali was overseeing it.

2001 is a lot tougher since the 65mm negative has a lot of replacement dupes due to damage despite nearly all the original shots being in camera optical.

Recompositing the main titles seems to be something that needs to be done more often because that's where you see a ton of choppy uneven grain and it can give you a bad first impression. One of my UHDs that comes to mind with that issue is Bridge on the River Kwai.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
I'm guessing this new release of The Shining doesn't include the International cut?

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Origami Dali posted:

I'm guessing this new release of The Shining doesn't include the International cut?

Is there anything in the international cut that's different beside the alternate ending?

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Basebf555 posted:

Recompositing the main titles seems to be something that needs to be done more often because that's where you see a ton of choppy uneven grain and it can give you a bad first impression. One of my UHDs that comes to mind with that issue is Bridge on the River Kwai.

Kwai is actually a recomposite, but I think they had to use separations for the background plate.

That's Sony, so my guess is that it was the absolute best they could make it look. Though, I believe the opening and closing shot of the bird, which was a dupe of a dupe for decades, was finally re-scanned from the nature film it was taken from.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Oct 4, 2019

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
Gonna wrap up my annual viewing of Mean Girls and check out Gremlins 4K. Seeing mixed reviews, interested to see what’s up. I will definitely fill out the feedback form and demand a high-end 4K release of The New Batch.

trdn89
Aug 16, 2008

I, Butthole posted:

I'm seriously considering going to a film festival to watch the entire 7ish hours of War and Peace on Monday.

You should 10000000% do this, I saw W&P in the theater earlier this year and it was incredible

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart
Back when there were only 5 Best Picture nominees the AMC theatres around here used to marathon all the nominees. No Country for Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Michael Clayton, Atonement, and Juno in a row was a loving trip but when they don't give you enough time to leave for a real meal and all you can eat is various salt carbs and maybe a hotdog you end up feeling awful.

I still think Michael Clayton is kind of a forgotten gem though.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Boywhiz88 posted:

Gonna wrap up my annual viewing of Mean Girls and check out Gremlins 4K. Seeing mixed reviews, interested to see what’s up. I will definitely fill out the feedback form and demand a high-end 4K release of The New Batch.

I went in to Best Buy to buy the UHD of the Shining (Steelbook because it's good artwork) and ended up also buying the Gremlins UHD because it was right there. I also snagged the Blu of Cat's Eye because it was $5.

RichterIX posted:

Back when there were only 5 Best Picture nominees the AMC theatres around here used to marathon all the nominees. No Country for Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Michael Clayton, Atonement, and Juno in a row was a loving trip but when they don't give you enough time to leave for a real meal and all you can eat is various salt carbs and maybe a hotdog you end up feeling awful.

Ew, yeah that's terrible, I don't think I could even attempt to do something like that unless it was at a theater that will deliver meals and liquor to your seat.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
RE: Gremlins UHD. It’s a step-up. I took a a quick gander at the tavern scene. Idk. Definitely a bit dark but not too terrible. Looking forward to rewatching in December.

I popped in here to say the Casino UHD steelbook from Best Buy is a dollar more than the regular edition. I think it’s a good step-up art-wise.

Boinks
Nov 24, 2003



Anyone have thoughts on the First Blood UHD? A local place has it used for $8.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Boinks posted:

Anyone have thoughts on the First Blood UHD? A local place has it used for $8.

It's good. Feels very natural for an early 80's film, which is what I'm after from a UHD.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Basebf555 posted:

It's good. Feels very natural for an early 80's film, which is what I'm after from a UHD.

As a weirdo completionist, the remasters of 1-3 look fantastic. As films, maybe skip 2, 3, marvel at how over the top the gore is in 4, and skip 5 (also hope for no 6)

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Just a heads up, but per Shout! Factory, the following releases are going out of print:

Vampire's Kiss / High Spirits
Swamp Thing
The Incredible Melting Man
New Year's Evil

and Kino Lorber confirmed these titles will go out of print once sold out:

Absolution (1978)
Angie (1994)
At War with the Army (1950)
Avalanche (1978)
Back Roads (1981)
Bad Man's River (1972)
Betsy’s Wedding (1990) | Holy Matrimony (1994) Double Feature
Boys (1996)
Captain Apache (1972)
The Cemetery Club (1993)
Cop-Out (1967) Stranger in the House
Crossing the Bridge (1992) | Indian Summer (1993) Double Feature
Eleni (1985)
Finders Keepers (1984)
For Love of Ivy (1968)
Funny Bones (1995)
Haunted (2002 Complete Series)
Hester Street (1975)
The High Commissioner (1968) Nobody Runs Forever
Kotch (1971)
Loophole (1981)
The Naked Face (1984)
Paris Holiday (1958)
The Revengers (1972)
Something Big (1971)
Star Slammer (1986)
Table for Five (1983)
A Town Called Hell (1971)
Two Much (1996) | Miami Rhapsody (1995) Double Feature
The Unholy Four (1970) Chuck Mool
War Between Men and Women (1972)
Who is Harry Kellerman and Why is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me? (1971)


Meanwhile, Twilight Time apparently doesn't have any new releases for the rest of the year (normally they have at least 3-4 titles) and Olive Films has only released three films this year. Not to be alarmist, but if there's any films you've wanted on physical media, might not be a bad idea to grab it now. I think we're going to still have plenty of physical media, but I don't think I'll be surprised if the industry switches to a "one print run and done" model.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Oct 7, 2019

Liar Lyre
Jun 3, 2011

Here to deliver
~Bad Opinions~

Thanks for the heads up. There’s no way I’m gonna miss Vampires Kiss.

Edit: Nevermind, it’s already gone. It’s probably already $100 on eBay by now.

Liar Lyre fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Oct 7, 2019

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Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

Liar Lyre posted:

Thanks for the heads up. There’s no way I’m gonna miss Vampires Kiss.

Edit: Nevermind, it’s already gone. It’s probably already $100 on eBay by now.

Check Amazon.

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