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vyelkin posted:realtalk i will always appreciate tina fey to some extent bc mean girls is a cultural treasure i always thought liz "why arent more women on death row" lemon was a parody of woke white feminism but now im not so sure that wasnt just an exaggeration of her actual politics.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Yeah stuff is actually happening in Season 3. My favorite part of season three was that 80s mall capitalism turned out to be a communist plot.
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 01:51 |
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marvel is making warhammer comics now but they should be making warhammer movies, come on disney start milking that ip for everything just so i can see space marines in a movie
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 18:11 |
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A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:i always thought liz "why arent more women on death row" lemon was a parody of woke white feminism but now im not so sure that wasnt just an exaggeration of her actual politics. I always thought it was fairly obvious it was both
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 18:17 |
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Not to continue my "let me remind you I'm asian" rants, but I do sincerely appreciate Mindy Kaling's unsympathetic characters on The Office and Mindy Project, because they're nice reminders that the many second generation Asian Americans who came of age in the 80s and 90s, especially if their immigrant parents weren't working class, ended up spoiled brats whose commitment to progressive values is tenuous. Many of them call the cops and gentrify. Some of them even voted Trump, despite being invested in the American melting pot narrative that Reagan championed. Unsure how much of it is intentional, or if it's just comedians liking to play unsympathetic characters, period.
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 18:29 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:it’s pretty pitiful that most reviewers don’t even consider that stories are set in a certain time period to inform its historical context, and not just because they want to produce cool costumes and vintage cars.
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 18:30 |
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Echo Chamber posted:Not to continue my "let me remind you I'm asian" rants, but I do sincerely appreciate Mindy Kaling's unsympathetic characters on The Office and Mindy Project, because they're nice reminders that the many second generation Asian Americans who came of age in the 80s and 90s, especially if their immigrant parents weren't working class, ended up spoiled brats whose commitment to progressive values is tenuous. considering asian americans are the richest americans on average it wouldn't surprise me to find out of lot of them aren't exactly progressive especially on taxation asians are the second smallest minority in america (after natives, that genocide was thorough) so despite many immigrating as working class there seems to be just as many rich, educated asian immigrants who immediately position themselves within the pmc class and naturally they are going to adopt the lovely lib politics of pmc whites
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 19:38 |
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there is that one indian comedian who lives in signapore i think and jokes about how indian immigrants in almost every other nation are associated with jobs like doctor or engineer but in the nations sharing a border with india they are seen more like mexicans are in america, because it's hard to immigrate somewhere half a world away when you're poor af
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 19:50 |
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america set up an immigration system that privileged educated asian doctors and scientists as immigrants, then when they arrived they went 'lmao look all asians are doctors and scientists' and now that's a stereotype
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 19:55 |
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vyelkin posted:america set up an immigration system that privileged educated asian doctors and scientists as immigrants, then when they arrived they went 'lmao look all asians are doctors and scientists' and now that's a stereotype the stereotype would have stuck to african immigrants if the pervading stereotypes about black people weren't baked into our culture already but still it's easier for someone with like 20 us dollars to their name to border hop than get on a ship or plane which is why you see a lot of working class south americans coming here but not so many working class africans and asians
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 19:56 |
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Echo Chamber posted:Not to continue my "let me remind you I'm asian" rants, but I do sincerely appreciate Mindy Kaling's unsympathetic characters on The Office and Mindy Project, because they're nice reminders that the many second generation Asian Americans who came of age in the 80s and 90s, especially if their immigrant parents weren't working class, ended up spoiled brats whose commitment to progressive values is tenuous.
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 19:57 |
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even africans trying to get into europe often end up drowning and the mediterranean is such a calm body of water compared to any open ocean that ancient greek and roman vessels could easily traverse one and completely useless in the other immigration, like everything else, is so much easier when you are rich
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:04 |
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Percelus posted:even africans trying to get into europe often end up drowning and the mediterranean is such a calm body of water compared to any open ocean that ancient greek and roman vessels could easily traverse one and completely useless in the other
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:09 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:i wouldn't say immigrants from asia are rich, but you have to have a chunk of change and planning in order to get here on stable footing. it's the same with anglophone caribbean immigrants, although most of them have the added wrinkle of being black, which can offset things not all immigrants from asia are rich but a large portion are because there are so few asian immigrants in general that the ratio of upper middle class lower upper class asians to working class one is skewed compared to most ethnic groups in america which is why they are on average the richest group of americans you certainly can immigrate to america if you are poor and asian but your experience will also be a lot different, many rich asian immigrants go straight to suburbia and for the most part can experience life as a pmc white person does albeit with some racism thrown in meanwhile a working class person probably ends up in an urban ethnic enclave struggling to make ends meet like every american immigrant group before them which comes back full circle, if you live in the suburbs you are probably going to have lovely politics like most suburbanites Percelus has issued a correction as of 20:19 on Oct 2, 2019 |
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of course the billionaire class in america is almost solely white people so rich asian-americans are rich in the sense all pmc are rich, that they aren't up to their eyeballs in debt and wishing death would come you already have the "too many asian ceos in silicon valley" attitude of steve bannon and the like showing white people are fine with asian-americans doing well to a point but don't want them entering the elite Percelus has issued a correction as of 20:29 on Oct 2, 2019 |
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Percelus posted:you certainly can immigrate to america if you are poor and asian but your experience will also be a lot different, many rich asian immigrants go straight to suburbia and for the most part can experience life as a pmc white person does albeit with some racism thrown in meanwhile a working class person probably ends up in an urban ethnic enclave struggling to make ends meet like every american immigrant group before them
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:42 |
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if we are going to tie this asian-american derail to more pop culture, lets take the two biggest films of recent years featuring almost entirely asian-american or asian actors, crazy rich asians and always be my maybe crazy rich asians is a movie about a pmc girl that meets a billionaire boy and makes that leap from upper middle class to disgustingly filthy rich, the dream of all lovely upper middle class social climbers always be my maybe features a failson who has driven the same car since highschool. it is very relatable to me for that reason and also has a p great part for keanu if you were born to pmc parents in the suburbs maybe being a failchild is the only path to save your soul
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:43 |
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Percelus posted:crazy rich asians is a movie about a pmc girl that meets a billionaire boy and makes that leap from upper middle class to disgustingly filthy rich, the dream of all lovely upper middle class social climbers get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 20:50 on Oct 2, 2019 |
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the only non chinese characters in crazy rich asians are two sikh guys who menace the main character Also awkafinas entire performance
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:48 |
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steve-o lends credence to my theory too his dad is/was a ceo of some fortune 500 (nabisco maybe?) and he was educated in one of those private schools in england that produces tory psychopaths he was an absolute failchild before jackass, failing out of college and being a stunt clown for a living now he is rich and famous but still an absolute pauper compared to his former classmates did being a failchild save steve-o from becoming an evil piece of poo poo?
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:48 |
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i mentioned a major problem that Insecure and Master of None have are the lack of PoC characters with any personality flaws, but you'd better believe that they got a ton of critical buzz when they were on the air. i never heard Always Be My Maybe, and i gotta think its lack of acclaim is because it doesn't have a flawed PoC main character. that's disturbing and reveals a lot about mainstream criticism
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:51 |
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always be my maybe is a pretty average romcom with one incredible part in the middle that makes the rest of it worth the time
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:54 |
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Percelus posted:steve-o lends credence to my theory too Pepsi Co. and absolutely it did
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Nick Kroll is also from an obscenely wealthy family, right?
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 20:56 |
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I thought Always Be My Maybe got plenty of press. And it was good. I couldn't really get into "To All the Boys I've Loved Before", but apparently it left a big impression on GenZ and has a sequel in the works. Finishing my dumb "asian americans in cinema survey", Searching was surprisingly good. I have no real cspammy-takes on any of them. All these works, and ones mentioned before, signal a certain "triumph" for Asian American liberals in the representation fight. In my more liberal years, I was more willing to credit the insufferable whiteness of American liberalism for my sense of alienation. But that tension, which was highlighted by whitewashed films like 21 and The Last Airbender a decade ago, has been somewhat resolved... and the Jeff Yangs of Asian America probably want some credit. My attention for seeking out causes of vague alienation in my adult life has shifted from "white liberalism" to "liberalism" in general. Echo Chamber has issued a correction as of 21:20 on Oct 2, 2019 |
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Echo Chamber posted:My attention for seeking out causes of vague alienation in my adult life has shifted from "white liberalism" to "liberalism" in general.
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 21:17 |
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crazy rich asians is basically just one of those interchangeable korean dramas about the poor girl who gets harassed by a billionaire heir until they fall in love and get married, only remade for western audiences
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 21:22 |
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vyelkin posted:crazy rich asians is basically just one of those interchangeable korean dramas about the poor girl who gets harassed by a billionaire heir until they fall in love and get married, only remade for western audiences
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 21:41 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:a goon in a different thread said that it was very true to asian romcoms or some other genre of pop culture when i said i didn't like it. ok, so? even if it's culturally accurate, the only happy ending i'd like to see in it is all the characters rounded up, shot, and with their wealth redistributed yes, it's a bad genre of pop culture, commonly called the cinderella genre it serves as a combination of examples of extravagant conspicuous consumption that the viewer can experience vicariously and seek to emulate in real life (characters dress in nice clothes and drive supercars and stay in swanky hotels and own enormous mansions) and wish fulfillment for a society that has resigned itself to a complete lack of real social mobility or equality (sure your life sucks and you have no hope of improving it, but maybe just maybe you could marry a billionaire heir and suddenly become an oligarch!) if anything crazy rich asians is a mildly less problematic example of this genre because at least the female lead is a competent, capable, successful economics professor instead of, like, a dirt-poor daughter of a janitor like in most examples of the genre the end goal is the same though, be happy with your working-class or middle-class life because it turns out the billionaires stealing your surplus value are nice people who make funny jokes and are so down-to-earth that they could fall in love with a commoner like you if you just happen to be in the right place at the right time!!!
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# ? Oct 2, 2019 21:50 |
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ready or not was a v enjoyable and well made horror-comedy of manners
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 00:24 |
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Poor south Asians don't have much problem migrating to the Middle East, it's migrating back that's the problem.
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 00:32 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:. It wasn't tho
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 00:43 |
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"after preacher" like he didn't have a decade of comics in between including the two best punisher comics ever written, one of which is arguably the best comic of the century so far and inarguably best of the aughts
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 00:44 |
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The second one is hitman for the record Also people getting mad about Ennis being edgy and then jacking off to Warren "superhero comics are for dumb babies not like my cool adult comic about hunter s Thompson making people poo poo their pants" Ellis is the most baffling thing gently caress like, half of planetary
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 00:47 |
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I just realized I had Ennis and Ellis mixed up Dickeye need your opinion on from hell because I heard it mentioned recently and jack the ripper was a freemason working for the Victorian British sounds just crazy enough for me
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 00:50 |
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best Ellis was the guy who upon gaining superpowers loses his dick and later murders one of his teammates by ripping out his spine and then ceremoniously implanting it in his pelvis as his dick that's the top tier skill that grants you tv writing gigs
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 00:51 |
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StashAugustine posted:I just realized I had Ennis and Ellis mixed up I have never read it because Alan Moore is a dude I appreciate and respect but also I don't enjoy most of his books on an emotional level Like, for me they're like the difference between the blueprints for a house and pictures of a house once it's been lived in One is very technically impressive, you can tell the person doing it has a lot of skill, but there's no real emotion to it. It's almost clinical and cold. The other doesn't take as much skill but feels more human Also you realize after your fifth blueprint they all have a room labeled RAPE
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Dr. Killjoy posted:best Ellis was the guy who upon gaining superpowers loses his dick and later murders one of his teammates by ripping out his spine and then ceremoniously implanting it in his pelvis as his dick Oh gently caress I know what this ones called gimme a minute It's one of his awful avatar books like black summer Edit no hero
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 00:59 |
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ruins by warren ellis: if you loved the sincerity of marvels, check out this comic where everyone has lymphoma or debilitating mental illnesses, and yr fav superheroes are mostly cannibals
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not the same as the comic where peter parker bemoans accidentally assassinating his wife w carcinogenic cum spiders
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