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Sjonkel posted:Looking at the top16 list from the latest SCG Standard Classic (http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Classic/2019-10-06_standard_Philadelphia_PA_US/1/), there are many different decks, and surprisingly few Golos decks. Which of these decks do you guys think are well positioned in the Bo3 ladder on Arena? All the people playing Golos made day 2 of the Open. 
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Went 4-2. Glad to see most goons had positive results.
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Oct 7, 2019 14:26
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Ha, I fired up that mono red list Aaron Barich did a deck tech on for the event (3-2, whatever) because it looked rad, and then they won the Classic on Selesnya.
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Oct 7, 2019 14:36
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I went 0-2 in the event with wishboard fires, first was to mana issues and I think the second was just to going second against a gates deck, felt like i was a turn too late with all of my actions, couldnt get Narset down before guild summit, couldnt answer the summit before dealing with some large creatures.
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Oct 7, 2019 14:39
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Went 8-0, then dropped the next two with Bant Golos. I had some really fun close games. The first loss was a mirror where I had a really bad opening and the opponent had a good one I was way behind by turn 5 and couldn't come back. The second loss was a quick blowout to simic flash where they got their creatures down early and locked me out while they beat me down. Overall the event was really cool and more enjoyable and tense than I expected.
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Oct 7, 2019 15:00
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found a fun bug, you can't wish for basic lands in draft. luckily I had a witch's cottage to find but otherwise I'd have been pretty hosed.
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Oct 7, 2019 15:10
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Is it time to maindeck 4 Unmoored Ego? I see a lot of decks depending on a few key cards and it'd only really whiff against aggro. T3 might be too slow though, so it'd need to go with quench etc
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Oct 7, 2019 15:49
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Baby it's always time to maindeck 4 Egos
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Oct 7, 2019 15:55
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Slamburger posted:Went 8-0, then dropped the next two with Bant Golos. I had some really fun close games. The first loss was a mirror where I had a really bad opening and the opponent had a good one I was way behind by turn 5 and couldn't come back. The second loss was a quick blowout to simic flash where they got their creatures down early and locked me out while they beat me down. This was my exact experience down to the game except I didn't get 8 wins before going 0-2 lol. Game 1, they drew golos I didn't. Game 2, every card I played was countered by simic flash. I'm only playing field at the moment because I started playing right around M20 so I was able collect lots of good M20 rares from drafting, so less wild cards needed. But when I first started following standard again a month before joining arena, I was shocked at how oppressive esper control was with all the duels allowing people to play all the best cards in 3 colors with no downside. That deck interacted by basically destroying everything or making you discard it with thought erasure. Field feels like the answer standard needed to break that up. Like you want to lock me down with teferi and blow up everything good I do with no win condition? Well then deal with a relentless army of 2/2s off of lands you can't interact with. Since field was everywhere, I have faith people will actively be brewing to beat it.
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Oct 7, 2019 16:11
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BrianBoitano posted:Is it time to maindeck 4 Unmoored Ego? I see a lot of decks depending on a few key cards and it'd only really whiff against aggro. T3 might be too slow though, so it'd need to go with quench etc fires and golos decks have incredibly powerful + robust late games and will absolutely roll you if you sacrifice cards and tempo to remove some cards from their library. dance decks not so much but i've won plenty of games with just a few doom fortolds. focus on finding your own powerful thing to do, answering your opponent is not a winning strategy at the moment
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Oct 7, 2019 16:13
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Ok so it looks like the only real deck with a favorable game 1 vs Golos is Jeskai Fires? There are so many Simic food decks and they all run different cards and most of them are so bad. Also no bans, this is standard Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Oct 7, 2019 |
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Oct 7, 2019 16:45
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I started playing again for the first time in several months, and I'm having a hard time figuring out what the beginner progression is supposed to be. I skipped the tutorial and ended up with 5 mono decks and two dual colored. None of them are standard legal, though there's a "Play" mode that I is for casual play and will match based on performance so I won't go up against tuned up Historical decks. Am I expected to put together a standard deck from scratch, or is there supposed to be a pathway from the starter decks to format legal ones? Right now, I'm just going to throw my hands up at constructed and stick to drafting. I went 7 for 1 last night!
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Oct 7, 2019 16:47
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I feel like that Golos net deck should drop 1 Boris gate for one gurl gate. Being off green after mull is how I lost both games to aggro.
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Oct 7, 2019 17:06
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Arglebargle III posted:I feel like that Golos net deck should drop 1 Boris gate for one gurl gate. Being off green after mull is how I lost both games to aggro. You lose way more often because you don't have your white sources for wipes and teferi than you do for missing green. You want these gates to be searchable via Circuitous Route, which requires a green source anyway.
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Oct 7, 2019 17:07
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Homers BBBq posted:This was my exact experience down to the game except I didn't get 8 wins before going 0-2 lol. Game 1, they drew golos I didn't. Game 2, every card I played was countered by simic flash. It was funny that separate from the losses, my two most rewarding wins were also against a mirror and a flash deck. The mirror was just an awesome game that was pretty even the whole way. I got more fields down early but didn't have enough land dumpers to press my advantage and eventually he got his fields down so for a while it was 3 fields apiece, and eventually 4 apiece. Lots of interesting board clears. The first blood that was even drawn was when he was able to swing in for 10 with a krasis, which I wiped next turn. The game went so late that the turn before I beat him he was able to get two Golos activations! I don't even run two red sources. I finally beat him with a big batch of Kenrith hasted zombies from an empty board after a teferi wipe on his end step. The flash game was a slower start for my opponent than my loss and I was able to resolve a lot of my ramp spells so I was able to survive to a key turn with 8 mana and only 4 life left: So I could play teferi and a wipe. He had to counter the teferi but didn't have the mana to counter the wipe. Then he chose to rebuild his board next turn instead of leaving his mana open, so I was able to land another teferi and enough blockers to cover his board (grazer mvp), and then it was game over for him with a teferi he couldn't remove.
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Oct 7, 2019 17:16
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Torbran, Thane of Red Fell is a lot of fun when you get to drop it in Cavalcade.
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Torbran seems a lot better in non-cavalcade decks tbh. I wasnt a believer until I saw it.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:15
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Torbran is basically the best 4 drop for any red deck ever and should absolutely close out the game when he resolves.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:37
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pro tip: don't steal a trostani discordant with oko unless you want to get egg on your face e: also the ui is bugging out bad, thanks for using the wrong oko ability and making me lose game?!
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Oct 7, 2019 18:56
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People constantly complain about forgetting about planeswalker static ability text but no matter how many times I read and play against Mayhem Devil I just instantly forget what it does and die horribly
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Oct 7, 2019 18:58
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Bust Rodd posted:People constantly complain about forgetting about planeswalker static ability text but no matter how many times I read and play against Mayhem Devil I just instantly forget what it does and die horribly “a player” and “any” really gently caress people over. Nothing like having someone play a troll king from graveyard into two devils for lethal!
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Oct 7, 2019 19:06
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Bust Rodd posted:People constantly complain about forgetting about planeswalker static ability text but no matter how many times I read and play against Mayhem Devil I just instantly forget what it does and die horribly No matter how many times I get bit by Narset's and Ashiok's static ability I will never remember.
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Oct 7, 2019 20:40
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Bust Rodd posted:Torbran is basically the best 4 drop for any red deck ever and should absolutely close out the game when he resolves. Hazoret is the best 4 drop for red ever made but other than that I agree
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Oct 7, 2019 20:45
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Rhaegar posted:No matter how many times I get bit by Narset's and Ashiok's static ability I will never remember. Any time I'm forced to cast something into Narset and it does that animation, I want to be able to tell my opponent "I totally remembered the static ability but I had to do it anyway!"
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Oct 7, 2019 20:50
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Just got back to MTGA, mastery pass cool and good or bad?
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Oct 7, 2019 20:55
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its pure profit after you hit level 42, but you will inevitably stress out trying to max it out at end of season. You can also just buy it after you hit level 42 (which is what I'm doing) in case you stop playing for whatever reason.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:01
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What do you think of foxes
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Oct 7, 2019 21:08
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Yeah I played Arena as normal without the mastery pass and did the math on whether I should buy the M20 Mastery pass like one day before it expired. I didn't play as much during the M20 season because Kethis Combo and Scapeshift/Golos Nexus were so so bad. Turns out I came out ahead by like 2 packs or something small so I got it anyway. Side note, probably not gonna play much more of Eldraine Season due to Golos Fields being so dominant at the moment in much the same way. Hope some of the MPLers or genius brewers are hiding some secret tech or something for the Mythic Championships in 2 weeks. It's never solved until Strasky and Cifka say it is.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:10
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I'm sure the Czechs are piling as we speak
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Oct 7, 2019 21:11
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1 win away from mythic, against mono red, at 17 life drop great henge. next 7 draws 6 forests and another great henge. Bad beats.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:30
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https://twitter.com/MagicEsports/status/1181234730659930113 C'mon you couldn't have had one more slot
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Oct 7, 2019 21:32
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Rhaegar posted:No matter how many times I get bit by Narset's and Ashiok's static ability I will never remember. Casting Thought Erasure on Tamiyo makes me feel so loving dumb but I'm sure I will never stop doing it
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Oct 7, 2019 21:40
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I'm spending my WCs this season because I always hoard them for the next set and then never get to make any cool decks and end up playing the same 2 things. I'm over my urge to gotta catch em all. I know "wait for the meta to settle" is obvious but then there's only like a month left. I spent all my commons/uncommons/ and all but 8 rares for ELD. I've still got 15 mythic WCs to spend. I have basically every mythic I need/want from the previous sets. From ELD I already have 4 Oko's, 2 Realm Cloaked Giant, 1 Garruk, 1 Circle of Loyalty and 1 Merriment Of the 15 WCs I'm definitely making 4x Brazen Borrower So that leaves 11 for some combination of 4 Questing Beast 2 Realm Cloaked Giant 3 Kenrith 3 Rankle 2-3 Henges 2-3 Royal Scions What combination of those would you craft? I like playing all sorts of decks.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:58
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I can say no to the Royal scions for sure, and the Great Henge doesn't see as much play as you'd think. Rankle is strong as gently caress but only viable in mono b, Questing Beast seems very strong in green and g/b aggro/adventure, Kenrith sees play in Fires decks and Realm Cloaked Giant is probably a safe craft. Is there a specific deck you're working towards
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Oct 7, 2019 22:01
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"The Returned King" is one of the weaker appellations in recent memory
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Oct 7, 2019 22:08
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Did you keep the receipt?
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Oct 7, 2019 22:08
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zoux posted:Is there a specific deck you're working towards Honestly no, haha. I used my rares and filled out playsets of the essentials. 4x Fabled Passage 4x Murderous Rider 4x Once Upon a Time 4x Fires of Invention 4x Fae of Wishes 4x Bonecrusher Giant 4x Gilded Goose 4x Torbran 4x Wicked Wolf And a bunch of other stuff. I feel like I have the foundation to build a lot of poo poo. I just need to figure out how to spend my ELD Mythics.
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On the more casual side of things I've seen a really entertaining mostly-green stompy deck focused around Henges, Troll King, Questing Beast, and food/ramp. Savvy Hunter, Oko, assassin's trophy to taste. Something like: 4 Geese 4 Troll King 2-4 Henge 2-4 Castle Garenbrig 4 Questing Beast 2-4 Return of the Wildspeaker 4 Once Upon a Time 2-4 Wildborn Preserver 2-4 Assassin's Trophy 4 Oko 4 Savvy Hunter The core is a beatdown built around Troll/Questing/Savvy, with ramp to get into that, Henge/Return for card draw, and Oko/Assassin's Trophy for control. I think I've seen some Paradise Druids slotted in as well, and I'm sure a Hydroid Krasis would be good too.
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Tom Gorman posted:Honestly no, haha. I used my rares and filled out playsets of the essentials. Here's the lists from SCG this weekend I don't see any Henges, two Scions in a bad deck, but a bunch of 4-of Questing Beasts and 3/4-of Rankles (I forgot he's BB not BBB so he'll work in golgari). So, cut the Henges and Scions from your possibles, and that's 12 right there. Out of those, I'd skip the second Kenrith imo
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