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Kawabata posted:Thanks, after Doltos saying 30 minutes games are the best and no CCG should ever cater to people not wanting to spend money I felt the thread needed a good post. Didn't say 30 minutes or anything like that you're obsessed. And of course they shouldn't cater to people who don't want to spend money, that goes without saying. You have some really weird concept of what's hard or not to accomplish in CCGs. Hearthstone and MTG are both designed to get you to mythic with a 60% win rate. We've all hit Mythic. I've hit it running an Abzan brew. We all hit Legend in Hearthstone. You literally just had to spam zoo for the longest time and grind. The fact that you had to put in a qualifier about how well rounded your life is without anyone asking makes me feel like you're not that well rounded.
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Lone Goat posted:The most satisfying game of constructed I've played this season was dance vs golos, where I won because they had 6 cards left in their deck and none of them were lands so they conceded. I was not milling them. Dance vs Golos is one thing but the Golos mirror is actual torture to play.
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Oct 10, 2019 20:57
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I'm running on the unity ticket of "actually, it's bad for either mindless caveman decks or dual lands to be too strong". Please donate to my campaign.
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Oct 10, 2019 20:59
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AngryBooch posted:Much better devs than WotC's nascent in house team have wrestled with trying to make a Unity Engine game with good performance and failed. Seriously no point in spending 1500 gems on events when poo poo like this keeps happening. 
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Oct 10, 2019 21:01
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Astonishingly I'm playing games of MTGA perfectly fine on my phone, using Moonlight to stream the game from my home PC, even over the data plan. The only problem is that you can't directly tap and drag the cards, you have to move a cursor around and double-tap-hold to drag cards. I think there's a way to make a AutoHotKey script to emulate the clicking, but I'm still figuring that out because apparently no one has thought to try it yet.
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Oct 10, 2019 21:16
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AnEdgelord posted:Dance vs Golos is one thing but the Golos mirror is actual torture to play. Golos outside of a mirror isn't fun to play either. I don't even get that sort of sinister glee that I get when I play like Turbofog or Control. It's just slamming lands down and occasionally playing a card that gets more land.
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Oct 10, 2019 21:19
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Zero VGS posted:Astonishingly I'm playing games of MTGA perfectly fine on my phone, using Moonlight to stream the game from my home PC, even over the data plan. The only problem is that you can't directly tap and drag the cards, you have to move a cursor around and double-tap-hold to drag cards. I think there's a way to make a AutoHotKey script to emulate the clicking, but I'm still figuring that out because apparently no one has thought to try it yet. I am very interested in this if it can become extremely usable. I tried doing this over wifi at work but it was way too slow. That might because I have a surface pro, though. Gareth Gobulcoque posted:So, after playing a ton of games with this deck, here's my mostly final list for mono G stompy. Quoting from a while back. I really enjoy this deck. Straightforward but still has moving parts and choices to make. Stomps pretty hard but I don't feel like I'm an rear end in a top hat. Edit: Lol on mtggoldfish Massacre Girl is $0.03 online / $0.53 paper. Seems really cheap for such an utterly powerful card to start a multi-page discussion about. The Sean fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Oct 10, 2019 |
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Oct 10, 2019 21:47
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Massacre Girl Golos Field deck when
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Oct 10, 2019 21:48
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Zero VGS posted:Astonishingly I'm playing games of MTGA perfectly fine on my phone, using Moonlight to stream the game from my home PC, even over the data plan. The only problem is that you can't directly tap and drag the cards, you have to move a cursor around and double-tap-hold to drag cards. I think there's a way to make a AutoHotKey script to emulate the clicking, but I'm still figuring that out because apparently no one has thought to try it yet. You try steamlink?
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Oct 10, 2019 22:09
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Huxley posted:
T1 scorch spitter T2 Rimrock knight, attack with ss = 18 T3 Bone crusher giant, attack with ss and rk = 13 T4 Torbran, Thane of Red Fell, attack with ss (6), rk (5) and bg (6) = opponent at - 4. Torbran is pretty nuts in RDW. If Torbran was slaying fire instead the opponent would be at 1 life on T5, and die to scorch spitter ping. It's very possible to goldfish a T5 kill in this format.
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Oct 10, 2019 22:25
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The Sean posted:I am very interested in this if it can become extremely usable. I tried doing this over wifi at work but it was way too slow. That might because I have a surface pro, though. While I suck at MtG I am an expert in game streaming. I set up a lot of things to optimize it: - Streaming PC is at home, on ethernet, and with FIOS internet (1000/1000mbit fiber, that's overkill of course but the 1ms latency to my work ISP the main benefit) - Streaming PC uses a headless HMDI adapter (search Amazon) - Streaming PC uses an RTX 2080. The RTX series streams in HEVC h.265 which halves the required bandwidth, and the encoding latency is much better than the 10-series - Streaming PC is on Dynamic DNS (free service with the Asus RT-AC68U router) so I don't have to guess IP to connect - Phone is an Asus Rog Phone 2, which has a 120hz OLED screen (though I only stream at that framerate when on Wifi) and it has the lowest touchscreen latency of any phone in existence It is funny to pull out my phone and an Xbox controller at a friend's house and play stuff like the Resident Evil 2 remake with no perceptible latency and tell them it was ported to Android and have them completely believe it. zoux posted:You try steamlink? Not sure how that would be relevant as I'm streaming from my home to my phone when it is on wifi/data. However, the Steam controller would be a fairly ideal controller for the phone since it can function as a trackpad. Huxley posted:You can't even goldfish a T5 kill right now. I am fairly certain that Calamity decks can goldfish a T4 with Scorch Spitters and Chandra's Spitfire from hell edit: yeah: T1 Scorch Spitter, T2 Cavalcade (3 damage total), T3 Spitfire (6 damage total) and T4 Scampering Scorcher (34 damage total) Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Oct 10, 2019 |
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Oct 10, 2019 22:30
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Kawabata posted:Still very perplexed about the state of monored and monou. Or lack thereof for the latter. That's because mono blue hasn't been a deck in Standard for almost a decade but you only started playing Magic via MTGA and somehow consider yourself an expert
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Oct 10, 2019 23:27
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Drewjitsu posted:T1 scorch spitter Also works, t1 scorch spitter, t2 cavalcade attack =17, t3 cavalcade scorch spitter = 13, t4 torban for the kill.
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Oct 10, 2019 23:39
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Oh sweet I hit mythic early enough in the season that I got a numbered rank and not just a percentage for the first time. #510 with... Golos Field, of course.
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Oct 10, 2019 23:40
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Eej posted:That's because mono blue hasn't been a deck in Standard for almost a decade but you only started playing Magic via MTGA and somehow consider yourself an expert Lol Mono blue was a deck like 4 months ago
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Oct 10, 2019 23:48
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GrandpaPants posted:Golos outside of a mirror isn't fun to play either. I don't even get that sort of sinister glee that I get when I play like Turbofog or Control. It's just slamming lands down and occasionally playing a card that gets more land. counterpoint: there's nothing funnier than playing against someone with unmoored ego, ashiok, and shitloads of discard conceding to your 8/8 hydroid krasis
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Oct 11, 2019 00:03
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Lol Mono blue was a deck like 4 months ago Yes the implication is that he played Mono Blue before rotation and is wondering why it doesn't work anymore when Mono Blue is a very rare Standard archetype but all of his Magic experience is from 4-10 months ago but thanks for making me explain it!!
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Oct 11, 2019 00:03
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As someone who really liked the concept of Massacre Girl and tried super hard to make it work to no avail, lol at the guy who thinks it's overpowered.
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Oct 11, 2019 00:07
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Eej posted:Yes the implication is that he played Mono Blue before rotation and is wondering why it doesn't work anymore when Mono Blue is a very rare Standard archetype but all of his Magic experience is from 4-10 months ago but thanks for making me explain it!! you're welcome for my questioning of your statement!!
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Eej posted:That's because mono blue hasn't been a deck in Standard for almost a decade but you only started playing Magic via MTGA and somehow consider yourself an expert Ate My Balls Redux posted:Lol Mono blue was a deck like 4 months ago hahaha
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Oct 11, 2019 00:18
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Oceanbound posted:Seriously no point in spending 1500 gems on events when poo poo like this keeps happening. If you put in a support ticket they refund the gems, at least they did for me.
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Kawabata posted:hahaha Hey he meant the 10 years BEFORE the last year which was clear in his language because
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Also wasn't Monoblue a thing in Theros, a far cry from a decade ago?
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little munchkin posted:counterpoint: there's nothing funnier than playing against someone with unmoored ego, ashiok, and shitloads of discard conceding to your 8/8 hydroid krasis Golos is fun to play against other decks in the same way that its fun for some people to pull the legs off of insects but its not worth it for horrorshow that is the mirror. Its like pulling teeth.
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Oct 11, 2019 00:52
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I don't think I can keep playing in a Standard with Golos Fields
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Long back and forth games with tonnes of decisions is the way magic should be played. Fight me nerds.
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Kin33 posted:Long back and forth games with tonnes of decisions is the way magic should be played. Fight me nerds. Sometimes I just really want to turn some big boys sideways
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Oct 11, 2019 02:35
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Zero VGS posted:
The steam link app will stream your pc to you phone and has a slick phone interface so you can just click and drag cards.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Sometimes I just really want to turn some big boys sideways I rely on people like you. My fetish is getting value out of board wipes. Also, gently caress Golos Field. It'd be a really fun and cool deck if it was just the jank it should be, but it looses its charm as the most oppressive deck in the format. Kin33 fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Oct 11, 2019 |
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Oct 11, 2019 02:54
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Zero VGS posted:While I suck at MtG I am an expert in game streaming. I set up a lot of things to optimize it: This is cool. Thank you for taking the time to share. You're ahead of me, though, since I suck at both MtG and streaming.
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Network42 posted:The steam link app will stream your pc to you phone and has a slick phone interface so you can just click and drag cards. Ahh, I see what you mean now. There's a piece of hardware called Steam Link, but then Valve in their brilliance also made a mobile app called "Steam Link", which does not require a Steam Link; only a phone and PC. I just tried it out, and on Wifi it works perfectly. There is an input mode called "Direct Cursor" which works like what I was trying to get Moonlight to do. I just put my finger and drag the cards around. It actually feels like a mobile app. The only UI element I don't like are "Attack All" and "No Attacks" are right next to each other and easy to fat-finger, not that I did but if I were walking around then I might. On 4G from my phone with wifi off, Steam Link App did some wizardry to figure out how to connect to the PC. It did reconnect, but with no video (smartphone screen was black, but moving my finger around on it, I could see the cursor move on the PC). The problem is it was reporting 78% packet loss. I immediately closed the app and opened up the Moonlight streaming app, and that streamed fine on the 4G with minimal packet loss. So, Moonlight still seems to have the edge when playing over mobile data. Steam Link is much better when playing on (local, and possibly remote) wifi because of the Direct Cursor mode. I'll see what else I can uncover, but so far it is promising.
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Kin33 posted:Long back and forth games with tonnes of decisions is the way magic should be played. Fight me nerds. What decisions are Golos fields players making exactly?
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They just announced a new Un set and said it is "available online"... I assume they just mean you can buy physical cards online, but it would be sick if they made all the cards MTGA compatible (i.e. nothing where you have to reference real-life player attributes). https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-unsanctioned-2019-10-10
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Bust Rodd posted:What decisions are Golos fields players making exactly? What show to watch as the deck pilots itself.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I don't think I can keep playing in a Standard with Golos Fields i remember i got called a pussy bitch whiner in this thread like 5 days ago for this very take haha
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Bust Rodd posted:What decisions are Golos fields players making exactly? land sequencing, sweeper timing, whether to roll the dice with golos or make the reliable play of the stuff in your hand. it's got the same decision points as any other deck you're just a lot more likely to win at the end most matchups get completely braindead once your late game is setup but the mirror is wild and you gotta do a lot of work to get ahead when both sides have a huge wall of zombies
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Zyla posted:i remember i got called a pussy bitch whiner in this thread like 5 days ago for this very take haha Solidarity 
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little munchkin posted:land sequencing, sweeper timing, whether to roll the dice with golos or make the reliable play of the stuff in your hand. it's got the same decision points as any other deck you're just a lot more likely to win at the end Play a wish board, have tectonic rift, win mirror. 
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Acknowledging standard is bad and bitching about it are two different things. The appropriate mindset to find inner peace while playing Magic is just to accept when the game sucks and either stop playing or internalize it and deal with it with a quiet dignity samurai style.
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I also dispute “playing a land AFTER I wrath instead of before” being a decision of land sequencing and more a check whether or not you can read. I will say that deciding whether or not to activate Golos could be a difficult decision but it’s been pointed out many times that Golos would be just as dominant if he only had the first ability, at least when I was playing Golos it felt like I absolutely never needed to use his big ability unless I had actual zero cards in hand. Either way the impending ban of Field of the Dead will hopefully allow the format to reshape into something less homogenous. In general any standard where the best deck is “5-color Good stuff control” is a bad format, going ALLLLL the way back to Cruel Control in Lorwyn. Playing a 5-color deck is supposed to have massive downsides that offset the ability to play anything, Golos fields has absolutely none of those weaknesses.
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