The Death of Stalin [Mafia]

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Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Leith Maclaine posted:

I think I am actually agreeing with Squiggly.

Letting e- talk but I am avout convinced.

##unvote

Avout=about

Using my phone so I am making a lot of typos.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:01

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 00:03

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Tomorrow is a holiday here so I pretty much will not be posting at all

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:17

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

So if we're going to kill someone do it now

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:17

death cob for cutie: Dec 30, 2006; dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

I'm an Archivist. I secure copies of files of players from the archives, as long as they're still alive, and passively study information from the files each night - I can learn alignment, role, who they targeted and who they were targeted by, but it's entirely at random. I presume this is how scum are janitoring kills, given the flavor - they have a player that's removing files from the archives. It would be really weird for scum to have a repeatable janitored kill; my hypothesis is that one player gets the files and another does the kill. I don't have any kind of active ability that reveals a janitored flip.

I had Hum's file at the start of the game. I learned he was town at the start of N1. I targeted Taste N1, to get his file, which explains why I was tracked to him. Taste was a Jailer, I learned that at the start of N2, and also that Hum targeted himself with an ability on N1. I appear to get a fact about every file I have at the start every night. With this, I elected to target myself last night; I'm hoping that I'll get a bit of info about someone targeting me at some point, which I can then use to verify their role. I already know my role/alignment, of course, so there shouldn't be a chance of learning that information. I realize that targeting someone else in an effort to learn their alignment would be nice, but I have no clue what the chances of that are; in addition, me posting poo poo about janitored players doesn't do much to clear me, as they can't exactly back me up. This is why I was reluctant to claim - I have a role that can potentially get valuable info on scum, but all I have is information on dead players who can't back me up.

If you think this role is weird, I think it is too. But so are repeated janitored kills and the almost-VT sharing one use of a power that lead to two modkills.

Retro Futurist posted:

So if we're going to kill someone do it now

There's an entire day left, if you're deadset (heh) on me being dead just leave your vote on me. It would be nice to get some more discussion done instead of jumping immediately into the night.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:26

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

##unvote

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:27

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Need to reread

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:27

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Hmmm I dunno very convenient to only have info about dead janitored players

What scum role or weird 3p role do you feel that directly counters?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:34

death cob for cutie: Dec 30, 2006; dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

Hal Incandenza posted:

Hmmm I dunno very convenient to only have info about dead janitored players

What scum role or weird 3p role do you feel that directly counters?

I assumed Taste would be unlikely to be killed in the night, which is why I went for his file.

The janitoring is what I presume I'm meant to counter, the wording of the night kill results is suggesting that files are missing from the archives. Theoretically I guess there could be a 3P wincon based around this, but it seems unlikely.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:55

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

I do not see how anything ep said is connected with him visiting fisk on N1. Rereading again.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:56

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Epsilon Plus posted:

So both b-minus and taste are town, but one of Hal and I must be scum?

I did visit Fisk, but didn't kill him. I'd rather not claim my role at this point, other than to say that I directly counter what I presume to be either a scum role or a really weird 3P.

You say here that you visited Fisk but in your other pist you say N1 you tracked taste.

Which is it?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 04:04

death cob for cutie: Dec 30, 2006; dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

Leith Maclaine posted:

You say here that you visited Fisk but in your other pist you say N1 you tracked taste.

They're the same person lmao, Jonathan Fisk used to have the username Tremendous Taste

https://votefinder.org/player/tremendous-taste

# ? Oct 13, 2019 04:08

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Be aware that the only thing keeping me from voting e+ right now is the fact that means I was wrong about Hal. Unless a much better explantion is given, I will be voting for e+ tomorrow afternoon.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 04:10

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Epsilon Plus posted:

They're the same person lmao, Jonathan Fisk used to have the username Tremendous Taste

https://votefinder.org/player/tremendous-taste

Well, okay, back to rereading.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 04:11

derp: Jan 21, 2010; when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again; Lipstick Apathy

Smells like a huuuige bunch of bullshit to me, wasn't this an "almost vanilla" game. gently caress this ##vote e

# ? Oct 13, 2019 07:47

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Good morning, comrades.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 13:27

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

I don�t understand why Ep was hesitant to claim that role. Seems bullshit.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 13:56

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

Real quick question on the Ecco Cop: could Hal and Ep both be scum?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 13:58

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

merk posted:

Real quick question on the Ecco Cop: could Hal and Ep both be scum?

Yeah I am ready to hammer, that claim reads exactly like a carefully constructed lie, but for transparencies sake I will let Solus answer that first

# ? Oct 13, 2019 15:32

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Happy Thanksgiving Opop! And any other Canadians here...

# ? Oct 13, 2019 15:33

death cob for cutie: Dec 30, 2006; dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

derp posted:

Smells like a huuuige bunch of bullshit to me, wasn't this an "almost vanilla" game. gently caress this ##vote e

The OP:

Dancer posted:

This is a not-entirely-vanilla game for 14-15 players. (read: 80+% of all actions that will happen will be common and normal. There will be some odd eggs in-between but nothing really game-changing)

This reads to me as saying "not role madness, but some strangeness is going on", not "almost vanilla". kind of a weird way to read it!

# ? Oct 13, 2019 16:08

SolusLunes: Oct 10, 2011; I now have several regrets.

merk posted:

Real quick question on the Ecco Cop: could Hal and Ep both be scum?

Not unless one's scum and one's 3p- they can't both be members of An Actual Scum Team

# ? Oct 13, 2019 16:42

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

Coolio. Let�s hammer.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 16:57

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

##vote E+

# ? Oct 13, 2019 17:13

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 3

Epsilon Plus (6): Retro Futurist, Squiggly, Anomalous Amalgam, Hal Incandenza, ~~Hal Incandenza~~, SolusLunes, merk, ~~Anomalous Amalgam~~, derp, Hal Incandenza

Leith Maclaine (0): Squiggly, ~~Squiggly~~

Hal Incandenza (0): SolusLunes, Leith Maclaine, derp, Squiggly, ~~Squiggly~~, ~~SolusLunes~~, ~~Leith Maclaine~~, ~~derp~~

Squiggly (0): Hal Incandenza, ~~Hal Incandenza~~, merk, ~~merk~~

merk (0): Squiggly, ~~Squiggly~~

Not Voting (4): Anomalous Amalgam, b-minus1, Epsilon Plus, Leith Maclaine

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is October 14^th, 2019 at 3 a.m. CEST -- that's in about 8 hours, 43 minutes.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 17:16

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Hal Incandenza posted:

Happy Thanksgiving Opop! And any other Canadians here...

gently caress Columbus tho

# ? Oct 13, 2019 17:30

Dancer: May 23, 2011

Epsilon Plus, ???, ???-aligned ???, is executed

In his lodgings are found piles upon piles of files that elucidate the identities of some other interesting people...

Epsilon Plus was Lavrentiy Beria, Anti-Party aligned File Arsonist

quote:

You are chief of the NKVD and member of the Presidium Lavrentiy Beria.

You are kinda the worst. Power-hungry ruthless mass-murderer with a side of serial rapist. You're currently one of the bigger fish in the post-Stalin Presidium pond, and you're trying to consolidate your power. Thankfully you also have a few puppets to do your bidding.

You are an Anti-Party aligned File Arsonist. As a night action you may EITHER target a player, stealing their files from the archives, making it so that their flip is janitored when they die OR you may burn all the files acquired thus far. Any non-burned files get returned to the archives upon your death (thus potentially un-janitoring earlier flips).

Since you were the first one to act upon Stalin's condition, you have a head start on everyone else. You start with the file of --REDACTED-- pre-stolen.

Mr. Humalong was Vasily Stalin, Party aligned Civilian

quote:

You are Vasily Stalin. You are Joseph Stalin's son. You like to think you matter. There was no airplane crash.

You are a Party-alligned civilian.

--REDACTED-- --REDACTED-- --REDACTED--

Jonathan Fisk was Georgy Zhukov, Party aligned Jailer

quote:

You are Big Boss-Man in Charge Georgy Zhukov.

You're the man. Germany personally surrendered to you. Who else can say that? Your military reputation extends even into civilian politics, giving you great power to Give No Fucks.

You are a Party-aligned Jailer. You may target a player every night as an active power. They will be secluded from any further gameplay interactions for the night.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 17:33

Dancer: May 23, 2011

Bonus Zhukov:
https://imgur.com/gallery/Pqkl1mL

# ? Oct 13, 2019 17:33

Dancer: May 23, 2011

Everyone's still here.

Day 4 begins.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 10:24

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 4

Not Voting (9): Anomalous Amalgam, b-minus1, derp, Hal Incandenza, Leith Maclaine, merk, Retro Futurist, SolusLunes, Squiggly

With 9 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is October 16^th, 2019 at 3 a.m. CEST -- that's in about 1 day, 15 hours.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 10:24

Squiggly: Jan 25, 2006; I'm Your Huckleberry

Oh my god Hal not scum and saved someone? MVP

# ? Oct 14, 2019 11:29

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Very nice.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 11:46

SolusLunes: Oct 10, 2011; I now have several regrets.

Well, congrats, Squiggly.

Between binus and merk, there is a scum.

##vote merk

# ? Oct 14, 2019 12:38

SolusLunes: Oct 10, 2011; I now have several regrets.

(and yes, the fact that Fisk flipped as town means 100% that merk is scum).

Thanks Hal for making me not die.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 12:39

Squiggly: Jan 25, 2006; I'm Your Huckleberry

SolusLunes posted:

Well, congrats, Squiggly.

Between binus and merk, there is a scum.

##vote merk

Duh

Don't everyone call every replacement scum ok this is a one time thing

##vote merk

# ? Oct 14, 2019 12:46

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

##vote merk

# ? Oct 14, 2019 13:06

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

##vote merk

# ? Oct 14, 2019 13:37

derp: Jan 21, 2010; when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again; Lipstick Apathy

Loll ##vote merk

# ? Oct 14, 2019 14:26

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

##vote merk

# ? Oct 14, 2019 14:31

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

I wanted to kill tommu

# ? Oct 14, 2019 14:33

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 00:03

Dancer: May 23, 2011

merk has been lynched

quote:

You are Minister for Defence Aleksandr Vasilevsky

You're not the big brother Zhukov who personally accepted the surrender of Germany, but the surrender of Japan is kinda cool too, you guess. Still you're a bit jealous. You have a reasonably strong position as Minister for Defence, and you're not a big fan of Khrushchev. How bad can this Beria guy really be?

You are an Anti-Party alligned Unstoppable/Ninja. If you are the one performing the factional night-kill, you may choose one of the two modifiers to apply to it.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 14:46

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