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Eej posted:Aggro. The biggest mistake of Eldraine seems to be that there aren't any really good viable Aggro decks. Knights are cool but aren't fast enough to outspeed Golos and everything else is pretty crappy value. I guess there's a RDW but it's not very good compared to what it was prior to rotation.
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Just hosed myself out of a win because I thought fairy guidemother’s adventure was instant speed (it is not)
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Oct 14, 2019 17:52
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It would be really cool if Red could combo Torbran into Chainwhirler I'm just sayin
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Oct 14, 2019 18:08
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axeil posted:Sooo is the only viable draft archetype on Arena Dimir Mill? Because the one time I really committed to it I went 6-3 and every other time I've gone 3-3 at best and seem to run into everyone playing something in blue that attempts to discard everything. I'm at the point where I'm taking Merfolk Secretkeeprin the first 5 picks or so of a pack just for the discard 4 spell, which should just never happen as it's not that great except in Dimir Mill. Hell, I'm starting to run 41 and 42 card decks just to try and nullify mill strats. I had a pretty good time with Boros Knights and Izzet draw 2.  7-2 and 5-3 respectively in low gold/high silver.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:28
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axeil posted:Sooo is the only viable draft archetype on Arena Dimir Mill? Because the one time I really committed to it I went 6-3 and every other time I've gone 3-3 at best and seem to run into everyone playing something in blue that attempts to discard everything. I'm at the point where I'm taking Merfolk Secretkeeprin the first 5 picks or so of a pack just for the discard 4 spell, which should just never happen as it's not that great except in Dimir Mill. Hell, I'm starting to run 41 and 42 card decks just to try and nullify mill strats. Nah, it's a bit too easy to put together right now but "the only viable draft" is an exaggeration, I've seen plenty of decks find success. Golgari food is particularly good and in general any black deck can give mill a hard time with Forever Young. I've gotten 7 wins even with like, mono-white fliers. Quite a bit of stuff can work if you can put it together. Ground-based aggro struggles though since blue is so defensive and green and black food provide a lot of life gain.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:36
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I've had decent success with Green, as long as it wasn't paired with White. I really wish we had human drafts though, it's a bit tiresome running into mill so often.
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Oct 14, 2019 19:03
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i think wicked wolf is my favorite card among sets released since arena started. no one ever seems to read what it does, over and over again. if only the art didnt suck
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Oct 14, 2019 19:36
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axeil posted:The biggest mistake of Eldraine seems to be that there aren't any really good viable Aggro decks. Knights are cool but aren't fast enough to outspeed Golos and everything else is pretty crappy value. I guess there's a RDW but it's not very good compared to what it was prior to rotation. Even in BO1, if I make a deck with 15 lands, a billion 1-drop creatures, Light up the Stage and Skewer the Critics, and I draw the angriest hand imaginable, if Golos gets Arboreal Grazer on Turn 1 or 2, that blocking is going to stall me for them to get zombies online around turn 5-6. If it wasn't for the Grazer I would have them dead by turn 5. Wasn't Sakura Tribe Elder banned in some relevant formats for the same reason (i.e. unfairly stall aggro for minimal cost while land ramping)?
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Oct 14, 2019 19:39
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Standard was never supposed to revolve around decks playing 29-30 lands so it’s easy to see how they could miss the impact of Grazer as an 0/3 Reach incidentally blocking absolutely everything. This format is so unstable and gross, I can’t wait for 9 midrange archetypes to all vie for the vacant Golos Field throne.
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Oct 14, 2019 19:43
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I thought Coiling Oracle v2.0 would be the great enemy, but it's actually Wall of Wood v3.0 that is keeping honest aggro down
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Oct 14, 2019 19:43
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Relin posted:i think wicked wolf is my favorite card among sets released since arena started. no one ever seems to read what it does, over and over again. if only the art didnt suck There are so many fantastic green 4 drops right now it's ridiculous. Wicked Wolf, Questing Beast, Ceratops, Nightpack Ambusher, Nullhide Ferox. Just a lot of hard decisions.
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Oct 14, 2019 19:44
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Bo3 draft for Eldraine takes forever
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Oct 14, 2019 20:00
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what is this rw relentless assault clone, i missed the name. i cant find it on arena
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Oct 14, 2019 20:11
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Relin posted:what is this rw relentless assault clone, i missed the name. i cant find it on arena It's pretty different actually.
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Oct 14, 2019 20:13
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Chance for Glory
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Oct 14, 2019 20:43
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Oct 14, 2019 20:58
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No.
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ManMythLegend posted:Are the rewards for ranked play different from the standard Bo1? You get a couple of extra packs, gold and card styles at the end of the month depending on your final rank when the ladder resets. The rewards list for each rank is on the profile page. Other than that there's no extra rewards so don't kill yourself grinding ranked unless you're actually having fun with it. If you're going to give a poo poo about tryhard magic you also want to switch to bo3 at some point.
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Lagomorphic posted:You get a couple of extra packs, gold and card styles at the end of the month depending on your final rank when the ladder resets. The rewards list for each rank is on the profile page. Other than that there's no extra rewards so don't kill yourself grinding ranked unless you're actually having fun with it. If you're going to give a poo poo about tryhard magic you also want to switch to bo3 at some point. Uh yeah... ok, you could have just said zoux posted:No.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:35
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There are no rewards for standard bo1 play so the answer is yes. The real reason to play ranked is because there’s less people that just dip for whatever reason so you get more actual games.
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Chomp8645 posted:Uh yeah... ok, you could have just said I mean if you boil down to it to a binary the answer is actually "yes"
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Ok maybe his question is open to interpretation. It's either... 1) "are rewards for ranked BO1 different from ranked BO3" --> NO or 2) "are rewards for ranked BO1 different from unranked" --> YES Not sure which one he's asking, actually. I was thinking the former. The latter is extremely obviously different so I don't know he would even ask. Meme Poker Party fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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Oct 14, 2019 21:50
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Wait, "standard" bo1 would be ranked, I thought he was asking about bo1 v bo3
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Oct 14, 2019 21:50
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It is extremely fitting the the Magic thread have an argument based upon unclear wording, basically the only game in the universe where that should never happen in-game anymore.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:52
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Just had two Golos fields decks concede games 2 and 3 turn 3 when I played ashiok despite them having field in play or in their hand already. They almost certainly would have won with how slow my mill deck works.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:56
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Chomp8645 posted:It is extremely fitting the the Magic thread have an argument based upon unclear wording, basically the only game in the universe where that should never happen in-game anymore. the reward is different
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Oct 14, 2019 22:00
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I don't know why anyone even bothers with ranked before the field of the dead ban. Or maybe they'll just ban Golos. Either way, what we're seeing isn't the "real" throne of eldraine meta so nothing actually matters right now except theorycrafting something that can beat oko once field is gone.
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A Moose posted:I don't know why anyone even bothers with ranked before the field of the dead ban. Or maybe they'll just ban Golos. Either way, what we're seeing isn't the "real" throne of eldraine meta so nothing actually matters right now except theorycrafting something that can beat oko once field is gone. Standard is also going to change when the next set comes out. Might as well never play magic imo.
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Oct 14, 2019 22:21
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Eh, nothing wrong with theorycrafting while we're waiting for the death of the current meta. I'm holding onto a fair amount of WCs, but I'm definitely waiting until after the BNR before I craft. I'm interested in either Simic food or Golgari adventures. Food is likely the favorite after, but how does adventures hold up against the other non-golos decks? I imagine Fires and possibly even Dance will be relevant.
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Speaking off, what are the card styles for gold and plat this month?
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Oct 14, 2019 22:32
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No one plays golos in ranked because of all the golos decks make the mirror matches unbearable.
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MCV deck lists are out https://twitter.com/hipstersmtg/status/1183855856351432707?s=21
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Golos at 42% of the field doesnt even seem that bad compared to MC1.
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Tibalt posted:No one plays golos in ranked because of all the golos decks make the mirror matches unbearable. Schrodinger's deck.
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No Wave posted:Golos at 42% of the field doesnt even seem that bad compared to MC1. What was the breakdown in MCI
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Ah I meant mythic invitational, the Bo1 mess that was like 35% esper 25% mono white and 15% mono red.
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God that was the worst too with all those Esper mirror match snore fests over and over
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Dr. Stab posted:Standard is also going to change when the next set comes out. Might as well never play magic imo. This happens about 2 weeks before every stale meta gets shaken up. Its just because they did a dumb thing that this meta got stale ~3 weeks after the set came out.
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axeil posted:The biggest mistake of Eldraine seems to be that there aren't any really good viable Aggro decks. Knights are cool but aren't fast enough to outspeed Golos and everything else is pretty crappy value. I guess there's a RDW but it's not very good compared to what it was prior to rotation. Gruul aggro-ish is fast enough to have a decent matchup with field and oko. Norns talked me around on running embercleave as a backbreaker. the way riot works means that if you happen to run into cavalcade you can slow down instead and just squash them Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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No Wave posted:Ah I meant mythic invitational, the Bo1 mess that was like 35% esper 25% mono white and 15% mono red. That's still a way better distribution than 42 to 18. I hope they give compensation wc's for both Golos and Field if they only ban one but not the other.
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