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I think if you want to play a heavily team based multiplayer game, but you're unwilling to use voice because of maybe encountering an idiot sometimes you should just not play the game. Ive been in voice for every match since the game released and toxic people are the minority. Like an insignificant minority. Just use voice and you'll have a better time playing the game!
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Wildtortilla posted:I think if you want to play a heavily team based multiplayer game, but you're unwilling to use voice because of maybe encountering an idiot sometimes you should just not play the game. Ive been in voice for every match since the game released and toxic people are the minority. Like an insignificant minority. Just use voice and you'll have a better time playing the game! Counterpoint: I'm consistently in plat at endorsement level 4, because you can play very effectively and coordinate by using the chat commands and common sense.
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https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1183874969203347456 Lol
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The events at blizzcon are going to be great...
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Oct 14, 2019 23:57
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As a kid I always heard that if you kept digging you'd eventually get to China
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https://twitter.com/NintendoNYC/status/1183940424467173378 lmao
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Why?? what happened? Is this cause of Blizzard's garbage/disastrous HK moves? Poor Nintendo 
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Truecon420 posted:Is this cause of Blizzard's garbage/disastrous HK moves? Poor Nintendo I'd say yes. Blizzard's taking preventative measures to not gently caress themselves over further, just like the whole not allowing player cams or post-match interviews on camera for collegiate hearthstone. But just the act of cancelling the event outs them.
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It's probably more likely that one or more of the VAs got threatened because nerds go 0-11 with everything
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The lootboxes you get from the role queue are still standard lootboxes during the event 
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Macaluso posted:The lootboxes you get from the role queue are still standard lootboxes during the event Whaaaaattttt Looks like I won't be doing any tanking for awhile!
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Macaluso posted:The lootboxes you get from the role queue are still standard lootboxes during the event this is worse than the hong kong thing
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So, Riot is better than Blizzard atm, right? Because they just revealed the class-based team FPS they're working on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iGU6PctOBg [edit] The timing to announce that was perfect lol. teagone fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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teagone posted:So, Riot is better than Blizzard atm, right? Because they just revealed the class-based team FPS they're working on: They are not - Tencent has a much higher percentage ownership of Riot compared to Blizzard and they put out a statement letting everyone know that they also don't want people talking about Hong Kong.
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Zinkraptor posted:They are not - Tencent has a much higher percentage ownership of Riot compared to Blizzard and they put out a statement letting everyone know that they also don't want people talking about Hong Kong. Ok, gently caress Riot then too.
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teagone posted:So, Riot is better than Blizzard atm, right? Because they just revealed the class-based team FPS they're working on: This seems like a weird as gently caress video to announce a video game with. I would've expected a music video that shows off the cast and some neat gameplay clips or something like that, but instead they go about talking about problems that 90% of their playerbase doesn't know or care about over rough looking alpha footage Minorkos fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Minorkos posted:This seems like a weird as gently caress video to announce a video game with. I would've expected a music video that shows off the cast and some neat gameplay clips or something like that, but instead they go about talking about problems that 90% of their playerbase doesn't know or care about over rough looking alpha footage People absolutely care about cheaters and netcode (and it's a point in their favor over Call of Duty, which has been doing a bad job at this recently). Both CSGO (a tactical shooter) and Overwatch (a hero shooter) have good netcode, so it's important to know that it will do a good job of it. "Eliminating peeker's advantage" is saying "we will have the best netcode there is".
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Minorkos posted:This seems like a weird as gently caress video to announce a video game with. I would've expected a music video that shows off the cast and some neat gameplay clips or something like that, but instead they go about talking about problems that 90% of their playerbase doesn't know or care about over rough looking alpha footage uh quite the opposite, they're addressing an extremely dedicated knowledgeable market upfront and as always the enthusiasm will spread
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Maybe they wanted to take advantage of the blizz controversy and announce something while it’s current, but don’t actually have anything to say... hence anti cheat and netcode.
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idk how you can tell with like a minute of pre alpha gameplay but alright what's there kinda looks more like cs with abilities than it does ow but who knows what it'll be when it comes out
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Calling it now: It'll be free to play and you'll have to grind/pay for heroes, and they'll have a big profit motive to make new heroes OP at release. They probably want to siphon off a bunch of R6: Siege players who don't mind being monetized in this way.
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AkumaHokoru posted:you can always just not respond to bullshit and focus on callouts and helpful info the problem with this is when you encounter someone who has nothing but negative, unconstructive things to say and they end up poisoning the rest of the team
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prom candy posted:Calling it now: It'll be free to play and you'll have to grind/pay for heroes, and they'll have a big profit motive to make new heroes OP at release. They probably want to siphon off a bunch of R6: Siege players who don't mind being monetized in this way. It works for them in League. 
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Kyrosiris posted:It works for them in League. And it seems to work for Paladins.
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Manatee Cannon posted:idk how you can tell with like a minute of pre alpha gameplay but alright Exactly, the TTK seems way to fast for a game with abilities. Why bother with flashy poo poo when you can shoot someone in the head and they die instantly. The game looks like all widow deathmatch- the game.
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Oh I'm not saying that monetization strategy doesn't work, I'm just saying I won't play a game that uses it and I think that might be true of a lot of Overwatch players and CS:GO players.
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yeah it's absolutely aiming for the csgo/r6s market, which are the two biggest Games as a Service fpses. Overwatch is kind of small fries at this point, I don't think role queue's really done enough to elevate the game back into peoples conciousness. That or they play it and go "ah, fighting shields and healing and trying to coordinate anything to kill stuff with 5 random people still isn't that fun"Dietrich posted:Exactly, the TTK seems way to fast for a game with abilities. Why bother with flashy poo poo when you can shoot someone in the head and they die instantly. The game looks like all widow deathmatch- the game. Rainbow Six Siege is very heavily class based, with unique traps and abilities for every single operator, and that game's hugely popular. The abilities are what let you approach from an unexpected angle: think smoke grenades or flashbangs in counterstrike. I think ultimately people just tend to stick with games that have low ttk in the long run because it's more satisfying to be able to actually solo carry a game. You see direct returns on getting better, whereas Overwatch tends towards putting yourself in the mind set of you being unable to influence the outcome of like 40% of your matches. Minera fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Minrad posted:yeah it's absolutely aiming for the csgo/r6s market, which are the two biggest Games as a Service fpses. Just lol if you think the biggest GaaS is anything other than Fortnite, or that players at large generally favor low-TTK. Here is a helpful comparison of Fornite and CS:GO. Blizzard's monthly players for all games is 37 million and we know only 10m of that is WoW, so you can bet OW is matching or beating CS:GO. And based on Steam stats, Siege is a tiny fraction of either. Idk how to break it to you, but there are many millions of low-skill players out there who aren't you. Being able to carry a game requires a game full of other people who can't... and their money spends just fine. Fortnite has a fairly high TTK and its absolute dominance speaks for itself. Overwatch allows someone with poo poo twitch reflexes to hop on a hero like Brigitte or Reinhardt and still feel like they're making an impact. This is a large and profitable audience. Riot isn't aiming for the twitch niche because it's the biggest audience (it's not), they're doing it because many hardcore gamers are already their fans, and they'll have a much easier time carving out a slice there than in Fortnite or OW's territory. Siege might have classes, but they're not that flashy moba flavor. That's going to be a new niche for Riot to own. I agree with the above posters that grind/pay-to-unlock sucks rear end (sadly this is a minority opinion), and also that a game with flashy abilities but low TTK sounds weird and unfun (lookin at you, Destiny 2). But that's just, like, my opinion man. Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Unsinkabear posted:Overwatch allows someone with poo poo twitch reflexes to hop on a hero like Brigitte or Reinhardt and still feel like they're making an impact. Yes hello, this is why I play Overwatch (actually I usually play Mercy and Moira, but same reasons)
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Ashcans posted:Yes hello, this is why I play Overwatch (actually I usually play Mercy and Moira, but same reasons) Me too friend, me too.  Theoretically D.va and Winston should be in the list, but I just can't get them to click. Too fast-paced I guess?
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The other thing that OW brings to a more casual audience that other games don't is fairly low consequences for death. In Fortnite, R6, CS:GO, etc. if you get popped early you can wind up spending more of your gaming session dead than alive. For olds and casuals like me the fact that you're on a fairly short respawn timer is pretty nice. If I only have an hour or two to play it's nice to spend the majority of that time doin stuff vs. not doin stuff. RIP to DPS players sitting in queue though i guess
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Unsinkabear posted:Just lol if you think the biggest GaaS is anything other than Fortnite, or that players at large generally favor low-TTK. Fortnite has an extremely low TTK. There are multiple ways to instantly down/kill people. here's like, a numbers comparison if you want it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wY_yJgMaFZqgRwo7GM5vvpL7rHIPWTkDk162AazxVPM/edit#gid=0  almost every overwatch hero has a time to kill on a 200 health hero that's not getting healed that's higher than every single weapon in fortnite Unsinkabear posted:Blizzard's monthly players for all games is 37 million and we know only 10m of that is WoW, so you can bet OW is matching or beating CS:GO. And based on Steam stats, Siege is a tiny fraction of either. and just to reply to this bit, the last unique player count for overwatch was 40 million, and I think the last ubisoft put out for siege (a game with a huge console and population on their client uplay, which iirc ubi has in the past claimed was larger than their steam population) was 50 million. and siege is a game that has a season pass and pay to unlock operators and cash only skins and soon battle passes on top of loot boxes, whereas ovewatch uses only the latter option. there's not really any more concrete information than that to draw on for player numbers, but i don't think it's any coincidence that we're now in our third year of event reruns with no changes beyond new cosmetics in Overwatch Minera fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Their MAU is 32 million now. EDIT: an earlier version of this post wondered about comparing unique accounts but I edited it out because i didnt read the discussion's full context No Wave fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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yeah just unique accounts, because there's not really any useful way to interpret the MAU across all blizzard games as far as any particular game is concerned. both titles are pay to play, so comparing unique players is a bit more accurate.
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The article I saw that 50 million number quoted in said it was total players, as in copies of Siege sold, not monthly actives. Then again, I don't hear much about LoL anymore either and I just googled that to compare... they had 100 monthlies in 2016 and now that they expanded into China are claiming 8 million concurrent users on average?  So I clearly don't understand what people want or why, lol.
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Minrad posted:Fortnite has an extremely low TTK. There are multiple ways to instantly down/kill people. Building drastically increases TTK in Fortnite though, especially at the high end where players are stupid fast at building. Can't just use damage numbers for comparison; building is a variable that'd have to factor in somehow since it's a core gameplay mechanic.
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