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The Cameo posted:“I could cultivate her into something I could want!” is the capstone to that promo, and it’s somehow the least creepiest thing in the entire promo. The most is him, heavily breathing, begging Macho to bring her with him the next time they cross paths. It just builds and builds: Yes! Thank you. and it's just as creepy as I remember
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Oct 16, 2019 17:55
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Oct 16, 2019 17:56
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Lid posted:BRAUN
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Oct 16, 2019 21:33
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To be fair Braun is a big stiff who doesn’t really have much business being over at all, except for a while he was given all these crazy backstage stunts to do and it got him over huge
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used to be if somebody got over unexpectedly huge, you'd go with it and see where it went, but i guess that's too pro wrasslin' nowadays
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jesus WEP posted:To be fair Braun is a big stiff who doesn’t really have much business being over at all, except for a while he was given all these crazy backstage stunts to do and it got him over huge Doing something that accentuates strengths and hide weaknesses? There's no room for THAT in the Double Double E, I'll tell you that!
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Defiance Industries posted:Doing something that accentuates strengths and hide weaknesses? There's no room for THAT in the Double Double E, I'll tell you that! "That's too pro wrasslin', god drat it!" - Vince, probably
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LividLiquid posted:The guy who's booked to never, ever win a big match? That's who you think is more over because of WWE's booking and not in spite of it? Because I'm not seeing it. This is recentism, with a very liberal definition of recent, BRAUN was the worst Wyatt member easily (Rowan was a better member at the time) and put in the group because they Had Plans For Him like Toman in The Shield. Notoriously he was referred to as the worst ever applicant for the performance centre, including everyone who has been rejected, and his signing was just in line with Big Huge Stiff in a time where being both big and talented is needed. Then he went solo had atrocious matches and was dying a death... and then through sheer booking sudden Braun Strowman who the "fickle fans" had every reason to give up on turned a corner and he became BRAUN. And shockingly he got better as a character and even wrestler when this happened, its a true home grown successfully executed build and push that the fans got behind. Then they just used him to try and elevate Roman instead because their plan was Roman the Ordained, Lex Luger in a time when the fans believed in Daniel Bryan Hart.
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Oct 16, 2019 22:18
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I think you could easily rehab Braun at this point. They won't, obviously, but he hasn't quite hit Big Show or Kane levels of damaged yet.
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Oct 16, 2019 22:24
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jesus WEP posted:To be fair Braun is a big stiff who doesn’t really have much business being over at all, except for a while he was given all these crazy backstage stunts to do and it got him over huge Historically, being a big stiff has never really been a detriment to being over. You just have to book them more like Andre than like The Yetay Which isn't to say "have him win lots of Battle Royals" obviously, it's not 1979. But just protect him more than they have. Accentuate strengths, hide weaknesses, it's meant to be Booking 101 and nothing kills a big stiff like lovely 50/50 booking.
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Oct 16, 2019 22:44
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Braun is the exception that proves the rule in WWE Big Stiffs. Kozlov, Morgan, Jones, Khali, Corbin, hell the most successful non-Braun is The Ryback and thats The Ryback.
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Lid posted:This is recentism, with a very liberal definition of recent, BRAUN was the worst Wyatt member easily (Rowan was a better member at the time) and put in the group because they Had Plans For Him like Toman in The Shield. Notoriously he was referred to as the worst ever applicant for the performance centre, including everyone who has been rejected, and his signing was just in line with Big Huge Stiff in a time where being both big and talented is needed. Then he went solo had atrocious matches and was dying a death... and then through sheer booking sudden Braun Strowman who the "fickle fans" had every reason to give up on turned a corner and he became BRAUN. And shockingly he got better as a character and even wrestler when this happened, its a true home grown successfully executed build and push that the fans got behind.
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Oct 16, 2019 23:07
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Psycho Clown. I get that he's psycho. I know that he's a clown. I understand that he's AAA's top babyface. What I don't get is how. I don't know why, and I don't understand what his appeal is. I've seen a few matches with him(all multimans), and he really hasn't impressed me or even stood out in any of them(other than his entrance). I would like someone to explain why, and how, he's so popular and, if possible, point me to some of his stand-out matches.
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Oct 16, 2019 23:49
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TriffTshngo posted:I think you could easily rehab Braun at this point. They won't, obviously, but he hasn't quite hit Big Show or Kane levels of damaged yet. They won't rehab Braun. They want him to be their new Big Show/Kane. As much as we grew to hate their niche they were both the booking equivalent of a USB cable. Plug em into anything and it worked, albeit not as well as we'd like. They miss that and they need that. Even booked well a monster can't be a monster forever. My hot take is that Big Show was simply too versatile a character (if not a wrestler) to be pidgeonholed into the "monster" role.
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Takuan posted:Psycho Clown. He has a lot of charisma and has been booked to win a lot and be a top guy. He also has a mask that's cool for kids. He's really not a good wrestler though and doesn't even have the really cool spots like Murder Clown does.
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Oct 17, 2019 05:04
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He doesn’t even have Murder Clown’s name, which is the coolest thing about Murder Clown
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ChrisBTY posted:My hot take is that Big Show was simply too versatile a character (if not a wrestler) to be pidgeonholed into the "monster" role. I always liked face Show who's a nice and funny guy but don't piss him off because his hand is bigger than your thorax.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:25
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ChrisBTY posted:My hot take is that Big Show was simply too versatile a character (if not a wrestler) to be pidgeonholed into the "monster" role.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I always liked face Show who's a nice and funny guy but don't piss him off because his hand is bigger than your thorax. The best Big Show was ever booked was his feud with Brock in 2002 when he won the title.
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Oct 17, 2019 21:18
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The best Big Show was when he was punching people in the face and teaming with Jericho.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:The best Big Show was when he was punching people in the face and teaming with Jericho. The best Big Show was when he was doing monster truck sumo matches on the roof of Cobo Hall.
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Big Show's WWECW run was also kind of fun. He seemed interested, at least. Also, Show Miz.
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Oct 18, 2019 00:01
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The best Big Show was a match where he dragged a guy into the corner, yelled "I'M GONNA DO MY MOVE!" and then did a banzai drop or something. Then he yelled "I DID MY MOVE!" at the crowd
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Oct 18, 2019 00:14
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He did a little front flip that looked like complete poo poo, it was incredible
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I am glad sentiment on Big Show has changed around here.
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Big Show & Kane as a team were great. When Kane got locked in a room and Big Show desperately is trying to open the door to save him, and Kane just appears from around the corner and say's I just used the other door.  Really it seems most teams with Big Show in them were great.
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Didn't Show once get a "please retire!" chant, then smugly boasted to the crowd that he had an ironclad contract, and then the crowd chanted "ten more years!" or something? I might be conflating things.
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TriffTshngo posted:Big Show was I vaguely recall him lamenting that on Austin's podcast, that he was treated as a joke far too often, instead of like a, well, enormous loving man who should have been a huge threat at all times. He also shared a story about the WCW main eventers ribbing him when he became champion, until Sting clued him in. Big Show owns.
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Oct 18, 2019 02:24
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He got a "You can't wrestle" chant and singsonged back "I don't have to"
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DeathChicken posted:He got a "You can't wrestle" chant and singsonged back "I don't have to" This, and that match he had with Kane where they both do mat wrestling and "classic" wrestling moves that I can never seem to find when I need it.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:This, and that match he had with Kane where they both do mat wrestling and "classic" wrestling moves that I can never seem to find when I need it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RYvXFiDGQ0 JR: "I don't expect this to be a catch-as-catch-can classic, quite frankly"
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Oct 18, 2019 02:46
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Big Show's gimmick should've been 'yelling things at the crowd.' I also remember him yelling IM A GIANT at one point.
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Custard Undies posted:Big Show & Kane as a team were great. There was a story a ring announcer (or some crew member) told about being at an arena once, and going off to take a private call. He accidentally ended up locked in a room with no way out, and to make things worse, he couldn't break down the door because it was a steel fire door. He banged on the door, screaming for help, when he finally heard, on the other side, the Big Show say "Stand away from the door." The guy said with one kick, the Big Show opened the door by shearing the bolt completely off the door.
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Oct 18, 2019 02:51
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One of the top Big Show moments is when he was cutting a promo about how much he wanted to punch Triple H in the face and his eyes started bulging out of his skull in a completely inhuman way. After that I started fan-casting him as the Heavy for if they ever make a Team Fortress movie.
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Gavok posted:One of the top Big Show moments is when he was cutting a promo about how much he wanted to punch Triple H in the face and his eyes started bulging out of his skull in a completely inhuman way. After that I started fan-casting him as the Heavy for if they ever make a Team Fortress movie. was it this 
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Oct 18, 2019 02:53
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Goddamnit, that gif just made me laugh so hard I can't breathe
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Oct 18, 2019 02:56
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Big Show was cool and the only controversial thing on his Wikipedia page is that he once got charged with assault because he punched some belligerent rear end in a top hat so hard his jaw broke.
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TriffTshngo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RYvXFiDGQ0 Big Show corpsing at 2:42 
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