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SlothfulCobra posted:If Roy's grown to appreciate Belkar, I wonder if there's a chance for resurrection later down the line. Like a gate to a different world?
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Maybe that, maybe a porthole in time, maybe getting trapped in some kind of mirror dimension.
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Oct 17, 2019 03:58
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ultrafilter posted:Like a gate to a different world?
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Oct 17, 2019 04:04
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I wonder if Roy is starting to feel guilty about Belkar's foretold death.
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Oct 17, 2019 06:04
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SlothfulCobra posted:If Roy's grown to appreciate Belkar, I wonder if there's a chance for resurrection later down the line. Maybe it's just the death of his old character. Meet Balker! The good guy who applies himself.
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Oct 17, 2019 07:44
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Darth TNT posted:Maybe it's just the death of his old character. Meet Balker! The
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Oct 17, 2019 07:49
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Belkar will draw his last breath and become Rakleb, the Good Ranger.
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Oct 17, 2019 08:10
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When that happened, the evil man who was Belkar was destroyed. So what I told you was true, from a certain point of view.
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Oct 17, 2019 11:04
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Belkar the White?
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This kind of shows how the rest of the order really hasn't caught up on a conscious level to Belkar's character growth. Durkon has evidently noticed and Haley is smart and perceptive enough that I'd say she probably realizes it but is keeping it to herself. Roy almost got it, but the baggage of his time with Belkar's Kill-Maim-Burn phase is keeping him from seeing it.
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ZearothK posted:This kind of shows how the rest of the order really hasn't caught up on a conscious level to Belkar's character growth. Durkon has evidently noticed and Haley is smart and perceptive enough that I'd say she probably realizes it but is keeping it to herself. Roy almost got it, but the baggage of his time with Belkar's Kill-Maim-Burn phase is keeping him from seeing it. Even if he was faking it, having this long of a con would probably constitute growth from OG Belkar.
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Oct 17, 2019 11:47
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Maybe it's like how the Oracle told Neo he was not The One
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Oct 17, 2019 13:22
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Maybe it's like how the Oracle told Neo he was not The One Yeah, but the Oracle told Roy. So what's the con? "If you didn't think he was about to die, you'd have killed him yourself?"
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Oct 17, 2019 15:26
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He wouldn't have tried to save his soul
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Oct 17, 2019 15:48
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Belkar dies and becomes a good lich to help fight against the bad lich.
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Oct 17, 2019 16:06
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I feel like the Oracle was fairly straight up and non deceptive specifically by Rich to avoid this sort of endless speculation as to how Belkar won't die. I feel like 90% Belkar redeems himself by dying. In such a way either he can't be revived, or refuses.
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Oct 17, 2019 16:08
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Raenir Salazar posted:I feel like the Oracle was fairly straight up and non deceptive specifically by Rich to avoid this sort of endless speculation as to how Belkar won't die. If he somehow ends up in the same afterlife as Shojo, I bet he stays.
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Oct 17, 2019 16:14
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ConfusedUs posted:If he somehow ends up in the same afterlife as Shojo, I bet he stays. As the Sexy Shoeless God of War he can go where he wants! Who is going to stop him? More seriously I could at some minimum level see the Gods collectively just keep his soul out of the lower planes as a reward for saving the cosmos and let him go where he wants. Maybe he can't visit the upper planes but he can hang out in the limbo area and be visited.
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Oct 17, 2019 16:19
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I appreciate the fact that the barkeeper is noticeably drunk as well.
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goblin week posted:So what is the interesting theme of being magically always evil? One of the things I liked about 4th Ed. Was how every class could get a type of immortality as they leveled. Either you became one with the Earth, or merged with a portion of your God or just became fantasy Winston Churchill, you could obtain a type of immortality. (Literal or figurative. But one method for Arcane casters was becoming a Lich. Only the idea was you did it through hard work, magical knowledge and determination. That you didn’t take the shortcut of buying the knowledge how to become a Lich from a Devil (which works. But involves about 1000% more baby eating than is required or recommended. ) I just liked the idea that evil is big on taking short cuts, because it means instant glory.
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The Question IRL posted:or just became fantasy Winston Churchill, you could obtain a type of immortality. (Literal or figurative. What does this mean, becoming a racism elemental?
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Oct 17, 2019 20:45
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mandatory lesbian posted:What does this mean, becoming a racism elemental? Preserved in ethanol
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mandatory lesbian posted:What does this mean, becoming a racism elemental? You end up as a sub-par, if effective leader, who get’s lionised by idiots who were children when he was in power.
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Oct 17, 2019 21:27
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oobey posted:I appreciate the fact that the barkeeper is noticeably drunk as well. He's a dwarf, that's their perpetual state is it not?
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fool_of_sound posted:Necromancy is assumed to be evil in D&D settings because undead leak negative energy that slowly corrupt the nearby landscape. This does not have to be true in every setting, and in fact sacred necromancy is a cool cultural aspect in a lot of fantasy; the dunmer in the Elder Scrolls practice it, for instance. They imbue their dead with the ability to defend their own tombs and summon ancestor spirits to protect them. That's what the baelnorn are supposed to be. theres a fantasy triliogy where i only read the first book where the main character is a necromancer whos job is to slay undead. the book is called sabrial or something like that. its kind of decent but like all ya poo poo gets weirdly sexual
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snergle posted:theres a fantasy triliogy where i only read the first book where the main character is a necromancer whos job is to slay undead. the book is called sabrial or something like that. its kind of decent but like all ya poo poo gets weirdly sexual Sabriel by Garth Nix. I highly recommend the whole series. I think I know the "weirdly sexual" bit you're talking about, the part where they're at the inn, and Sabriel thinks she's hearing her male traveling companion loving a maid in the next room and has Feelings™ about it, but it's actually just some stranger, right? Well, I have good news: apart from one other (plot-relevant) scene, the rest of the series is blessedly free of that kind of sexual awkwardness.
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When I read it as a teen I found it sorta relatable.
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http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1183.html
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That's not ominous or anything.
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Oct 21, 2019 16:11
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Assuming the vessel is sacrificial/to be possessed, I guess we might be seeing Tarquin again?
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Oct 21, 2019 16:11
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Oh neat, I missed the IPRE.
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I got to admit, I am really over the trope of villains talking about how their machinations are proceeding and dropping vague hints about how they'll be throwing spanners in various works. I'm sure the payoff will be worth it, and I guess it's hot new info that Hel's scheme would have been beneficial to their agenda, but I'm about ready for the IFCC to step out of the shadows. I am not at all over Blackwing or Durkon's family being good and wholesome. They can keep going as they are for as long as they want. 
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I got to admit, I am really over the trope of villains talking about how their machinations are proceeding and dropping vague hints about how they'll be throwing spanners in various works. I'm sure the payoff will be worth it, and I guess it's hot new info that Hel's scheme would have been beneficial to their agenda, but I'm about ready for the IFCC to step out of the shadows. Well, it's the denouement to the book. It's the right time to remind people of the existence of villains whose plans aren't in motion yet. And heroes for that matter; I assume we'll soon get a page about Xykon and co, and the paladins.
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I liked the line "It's time to really roll our sleeves up and get our followers' hands dirty". Always nice to be reminded that the IFCC are, at heart, rear end in a top hat middle managers.
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Tenebrais posted:Well, it's the denouement to the book. It's the right time to remind people of the existence of villains whose plans aren't in motion yet. And heroes for that matter; I assume we'll soon get a page about Xykon and co, and the paladins. Yes, that's fair, but the IFCC have been around for over 500 strips (or; ten years) and we still don't really know what they're up to.
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Best guess: they help guide the Order towards the final battle with Xykon, do whatever they can to stack the deck in the Order’s favor... Then swoop in and finish off whoever survives the battle. From there, they either hijack Redcloak’s “hold the world hostage” plan towards their own ends (like letting their fellows appear in the material plane en masse to rain death on the land), or they just immediately use (or break) the final Gate.
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the ifcc are ment to show that evil can always work together but good cant because it consistently splinters and in fights. get woke. i forgot all about the ifcc to tell the truth so im glad rich reminded us.
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snergle posted:the ifcc are ment to show that evil can always work together but good cant because it consistently splinters and in fights. get woke. gently caress that and gently caress centrists
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