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Mat Cauthon posted:We will probably get some kind of visual effect to make it more apparent when channelers are doing their thing (maybe a visible aura or something akin to Moiraine's glowing jewel) and more overt physical cues to go with whatever magic thing is happening, because yeah no one wants to watch people just stare at each other when there's supposed to be *~magic~* happening. Most of Rand's duels with Forsaken are basically "stuff happening or blowing up nearby while trying to cut each other off from the Source" so they definitely have to find ways to make it more engaging and emphasize the contest of wills part. Sure, there're plenty of descriptions in the books of the threads of different elements being woven together and cut that you could show as threads of different colored light, I'm just saying that the fact that most magic doesn't actually do anything physical in WoT kind of lends itself to a lower budget or at least being able to focus the budget where you want and have things happen off screen or maybe someone runs by and Nynaeve and Mogheiden are staring at each other or something.
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Invalid Validation posted:I don’t think the fireballs and stuff will be hard. I think the constant squinting with elemental magic weaving that only certain people can see will be hard. Dr. Strange showed that you can do "magical weaves" and spell slinging in a very visually cool and compelling way. I'd guess WoT will borrow generously from it for a lot of the magical duel type stuff. A fireball is, indeed, just a fireball. e: no they have to keep the Sea Folk for the boobs. How are u fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Oct 18, 2019 16:42
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Gateways should be interesting. e: Especially the Sanderson ones where you're like dropping sugarcubes into someone else's tea or making a Google Earth map view and stuff
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M. Night Skymall posted:Sure, there're plenty of descriptions in the books of the threads of different elements being woven together and cut that you could show as threads of different colored light, I'm just saying that the fact that most magic doesn't actually do anything physical in WoT kind of lends itself to a lower budget or at least being able to focus the budget where you want and have things happen off screen or maybe someone runs by and Nynaeve and Mogheiden are staring at each other or something. Using weaves of air to bind people up could be very "Gandalf v Sauramon"-esque. You just hook someone up to a wire and point a fan at them. It's really not hard. Using weaves to heal people will be extremely obvious as you just CGI wounds away. As far as weaves being invisible to some people, that's what exposition is for. You explain to the audience, and then make it very clear who can and cannot see these things... Or you scrap this detail entirely and write around it. Compulsion would be the biggest "problem" and even that... you could simply rework it to X character does some voodoo weaves out of sight of the 'victim'. Like there are a million ways to work around all of this with only an ounce of some "creative freedoms". Y'all expecting 1:1 accuracy to the books and that's just not going to happen no matter what series you're talking about. e; ^ Gateways will be easy to do, assuming by "interesting" you meant "complex/difficult". Go play Portal. It's basically just that 
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Oct 18, 2019 16:50
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:once the anime is popular enough they'll make live action movies of the anime seasons. There was the town that May used as a weapon in the final battle, does that count?
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Oct 18, 2019 16:55
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There better be some fuckin dark hounds and grolm. I’d assume raken are a given.
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Oct 18, 2019 17:16
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Oct 18, 2019 17:19
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Better be a shitload of braid pulling otherwise what the gently caress is the point?
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Oct 18, 2019 17:23
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Invalid Validation posted:Better be a shitload of braid pulling otherwise what the gently caress is the point? Nynaeve's hair is 100% braids so the casting is very on point for this.
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Oct 18, 2019 17:26
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The advantage of a visual medium is that you can have just non-stop braid pulling action going on while also doing other stuff. A bit like showing tits in GoT, really.
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Oct 18, 2019 18:00
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Syncopated posted:The advantage of a visual medium is that you can have just non-stop braid pulling action going on while also doing other stuff. A bit like showing tits in GoT, really. It always bugged me though, I've never seen anyone do that in real life. Pulling your hair must hurt like a motherfucker, and she does it constantly. I'm just hoping for a background tapestry that looks suspiciously like that gif of the entire plot of WoT, with Nynaeve and Egwene tugging braids and smoothing dresses, then Rand runs by in the background with his hair on fire and Mat runs by screaming about dice. Give away the whole plot in the first episode or two just for shits and giggles.
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Oct 18, 2019 19:11
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Kind of concerned that the first episode apparently ends with the gang on the run already so we probably don't have much time for a flashback prologue chapter of Lews Therin and Dragonmount, T B Q H
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Are you basing that off the 1 photo that was posted on the other page and assuming that's the first episode they're filming? Or did they actually confirm what the first episode is like. I assume it's the former, in which case stuff is virtually never filmed chronologically.
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Oct 18, 2019 19:32
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Sab669 posted:Are you basing that off the 1 photo that was posted on the other page and assuming that's the first episode they're filming? Or did they actually confirm what the first episode is like. They did a table read of the first eps and tweeted a video of the cast reading the end of ep1, and it's basically the superkids, Moraine, Lan, etc., heading off into the wild.
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Oct 18, 2019 19:42
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It will probably make it in there somewhere, it's too strong to just cut. My guess would be that it'll be the open for whatever episode it is where they reach the Eye, to parallel the connection to the War of the Shadow stuff.
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Oct 18, 2019 19:54
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There's been the suggestion that the show is told more from Moiraine's perspective as well, so that gives them a lot of liberty as far as how much time to spend on anything during the bits that were all Rand's perspective in the first book. Also, they can just pay someone probably $100 to get the rights to this authoritative take on the prologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQE0-G_GeU
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Oct 18, 2019 20:03
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That would be weird since she’s gone for large chunks of plot.
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Oct 18, 2019 20:40
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It's not out of line with Jordan's style. The first book is just Rand's POV until the party splits at Aridhol. I remember that first change being pretty jarring haha. Also, if Moiraine is more of a primary POV character her eventual disappearance will have even more of an oomph. More Red Wedding than Ned's dead. How are u fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Oct 18, 2019 21:04
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I get that but she’s physically not part of huge swathes of the story. Unless they just go by hearsay like they do in the books. That’s one of the things I appreciate even if it’s frustrating for me. Nobody knows poo poo unless they actually did it.
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Oct 18, 2019 21:14
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The prologue would be like 5-7 min of screen time, tops.
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Oct 18, 2019 21:29
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Invalid Validation posted:That would be weird since she’s gone for large chunks of plot. Why does this matter? She's critical for the first half of the story. No one is suggesting to literally make her the sole POV of the story. Characters are too split for anything like that even in parts of TEOTW and especially by TGH.
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Oct 18, 2019 21:31
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Prologue would be like two minutes of CGI and probably involve none of the main cast actors. I'd be Amazed if they skipped putting it right at the start. it's the perfect opener because it's so obviously the end of a huge story. Honestly though the whole first book is extremely film-ready and they'd be dumb as hell if they cut any significant parts of it. Maybe some of the Caemlyn Road bits could go. Maybe they could take the Ways straight to the Blight and skip Fal Dara.
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Book one has a lot of stuff that takes up a bunch of text but would go really quick on the screen. 2 and 3 aren’t like that at all though. Assuming 10 episodes in season 1, you can probably get all of book one and part of book two. 1 -Leaving Emond Field Introduce Everyone Trollocs Attack Moraine convinces them all to leave 2 - Baerlon They get to Baerlon Introduce Min and Thom Nynaeve catches up to them Mat fucks with the Whitecloaks and They flee Baerlon 3 - Shadar Logath They get attacked by Trollocs and flee to Shadar Logath Good time for some back story Everyone one splits up on escape 4 - Side adventures Perrin meets Elyas and kills Whitecloaks Nynaeve learns about the power Matt, Rand, and Thom arrive in Caemlyn 5 - Caemlyn Rand’s Garden Shenanigans Everyone meets up They enter the ways 6 -The Ways and Shienar The ways Fain is captured Lots of exposition and backstory 7 - Entering the Blight They leave Fal Data and enter the blight Lan backstory about Malkier They arrive at the eye of the world 8 - The Eye of the World Green Man The Forsaken appear Rand v Ba’alzamon 9 - The Return They wrap up the eye of the world Pull forward the first part of book two End the episode with someone freeing Fain 10 - The Horn is stolen Trollocs attack Fal Dara The horn is stolen Mat falls sick from the dagger Rand goes before Siuan and him being the Dragon Reborn is revealed. Season Two can then start off weeks later with the girls already at the Tower and the boys hunting for the horn. Two and Three have a lot of pretty essential content so I don’t see then being simplified much. You might be able to squeeze 4-6 into 2 seasons. 7-10 can probably be 2 seasons as well. Then 2-3 seasons to wrap up everything. So 10 seasons probably? Saltpowered fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Prologue would be like two minutes of CGI and probably involve none of the main cast actors. I'd be Amazed if they skipped putting it right at the start. it's the perfect opener because it's so obviously the end of a huge story. The prologue is important because it's a signal to the reader/viewer that the Tolkienesque trappings of opening are leading to something different. Otherwise you are going to lose people with all the farmboy stuff.
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Lawlicaust posted:Book one has a lot of stuff that takes up a bunch of text but would go really quick on the screen. 2 and 3 aren’t like that at all though. Assuming 10 episodes in season 1, you can probably get all of book one and part of book two. I really like this. I kind of wish more shows would do the whole conclusion + setup for the next season thing rather than ending on cliffhangers. I know some shows have done that, and I appreciate it, but it seems few and far betwee..
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Lawlicaust posted:Book one has a lot of stuff that takes up a bunch of text but would go really quick on the screen. 2 and 3 aren’t like that at all though. Assuming 10 episodes in season 1, you can probably get all of book one and part of book two Some won't go quicker, mainly because there's a ton of needed exposition in EOTW that won't go quicker in visual form. And the metaphysics of the world actually matter, the audience needs to understand a bunch of concepts for most of the plot to work. Like the 2nd to the last chapter of the book is basically just there for Moiraine to explain what the hell is going on.
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Invalid Validation posted:I get that but she’s physically not part of huge swathes of the story. Unless they just go by hearsay like they do in the books. That’s one of the things I appreciate even if it’s frustrating for me. Nobody knows poo poo unless they actually did it. I agree that it would be weird later on, but I think it would work OK for the first season. Also, some of this buzz may be hearsay based solely on the fame of the actors being cast - Rosamund Pike is a big deal so there's a presumption they're going to use her as such. I mean, she probably costs more than the the 5 kids put together, so you'd hope they're gonna take advantage of her chops.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Prologue would be like two minutes of CGI and probably involve none of the main cast actors. I'd be Amazed if they skipped putting it right at the start. it's the perfect opener because it's so obviously the end of a huge story. Yeah I'm imagining them using some big name actor for Lews Therin. Then throughout the show having his voice acting giving an inner look into Rand's madness. Sort of like how Mr Robot handles aspects of it's protagonists psyche.
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i love the audiobooks. but man, in the first book, they're all over the place. pronouncing loial differently in the same paragraph etc.
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It really makes me nervous when they say stuff like 'we're going to focus the story on Moriane more.' Please don't gently caress this up, random Survivor Alumni dude.
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The Lord Bude posted:It really makes me nervous when they say stuff like 'we're going to focus the story on Moriane more.' Please don't gently caress this up, random Survivor Alumni dude. but they posted lots of pictures of dogeared copies of Eye of the World!!
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Brolander posted:i love the audiobooks. but man, in the first book, they're all over the place. pronouncing loial differently in the same paragraph etc. The one that pisses me off the most is “burr-gee-tuh” vs “beer-git-tuh.” gently caress that second pronunciation is awful.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:The one that pisses me off the most is “burr-gee-tuh” vs “beer-git-tuh.” gently caress that second pronunciation is awful. The second pronunciation is a lot closer to it's Scandinavian roots though.
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seaborgium posted:It always bugged me though, I've never seen anyone do that in real life. Pulling your hair must hurt like a motherfucker, and she does it constantly. I read it more as stroking, like playing with her hair more than as a yanking motion
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DarkHorse posted:I read it more as stroking, like playing with her hair more than as a yanking motion I would think so too, but a couple of times it's mentioned that another character thinks she might just yank her whole braid out because she's so upset and doing it so hard. Anxiously smoothing out your clothes makes sense to me, but pulling your own hair that hard is just weird.
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Oct 19, 2019 17:32
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Some organs can be tugged and hair is among them
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seaborgium posted:I would think so too, but a couple of times it's mentioned that another character thinks she might just yank her whole braid out because she's so upset and doing it so hard. Anxiously smoothing out your clothes makes sense to me, but pulling your own hair that hard is just weird. I always assumed it played into her block, since she could only channel when pissed off, so she subconsciously developed habits to keep her angrier
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Don’t kink shame.
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"so angry you're pulling your hair out" is a phrase and over a few million words a tic can become extremely repetitive
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