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Warpers are IMO the most annoying creatures in the game, especially later on. I just want to grapple up out of the grand reef. Also I don't get the love for the prawn suit. Yeah, the drill arm is nice and you can go quite deep (and therefore it's necessary for late game stuff) but holy poo poo it's a nightmare to maneuver.
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Previa_fun posted:Warpers are IMO the most annoying creatures in the game, especially later on. I hated the prawn suit and only really used it because I was forced to. It's only tolerable by docking it with the Cyclops and trying to do short jaunts. Some people disliked the Cyclops but I preferred having a mobile base rather than constantly playing resource collection games making a bunch of mini bases.
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Oct 12, 2019 22:21
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Did you put a grappler and some jump jets on your suit? Without those, yes it does suck.
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Oct 13, 2019 00:04
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Even without the upgraded jump jets, just a single grappling arm almost entirely changes the way the prawn suit feels to pilot. It makes it, arguably, the most maneuverable vehicle in the game, and a source of endless fun. The upgraded jump jet just straight up also makes it...well, more fun.
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Oct 13, 2019 00:12
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I have the grappling arm; still hate piloting the prawn suit. Currently searching for fragments to build the cyclops, I have everything for the engine and bridge, I'm only lacking what seems to be the "main" cyclops fragment. I grew up putting hundreds of hours into flight sims though so the seamoth and cyclops make sense to me. Prawn suit just feels clunky as hell. Edit: are fragment locations random? I feel like I got the cyclops built way earlier in my last playthrough attempt. Previa_fun fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Oct 13, 2019 |
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Oct 13, 2019 00:28
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Previa_fun posted:I have the grappling arm; still hate piloting the prawn suit. Currently searching for fragments to build the cyclops, I have everything for the engine and bridge, I'm only lacking what seems to be the "main" cyclops fragment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-_53W_nHEk&hd=1 double grapple prawn suit is a grand old time, way more fun than just holding forward in the seamoth
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Oct 13, 2019 03:19
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GotLag posted:Did you put a grappler and some jump jets on your suit? Without those, yes it does suck. Yes and it still sucks to me. It felt very imprecise, and everything just seemed like it takes longer than it should. Just feels like a chore to use. The Seamoth was boring in terms of mechanics but at least very nimble and responsive. But hey a simple mod fixed the issue for me so no big deal.
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Oct 13, 2019 05:10
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Previa_fun posted:I have the grappling arm; still hate piloting the prawn suit. Currently searching for fragments to build the cyclops, I have everything for the engine and bridge, I'm only lacking what seems to be the "main" cyclops fragment. On the broadest sense "Just keep looking", but if it starts to drag on consult the wiki to ensure you're not simply going crazy. There is an obvious once you see it unique benefit to the prawnsuit. Very mild mechanical spoiler, with no story spoilers You need the prawn drill, to drill up the Ion crystal nodes that pop up occasionally in plot locations. Including the very final respawning ion crystal supply. So you won't need to rely on stray individual cubes as much Section Z fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Oct 13, 2019 |
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Oct 13, 2019 07:52
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Yeah, my fins-only (no seaglide, even) run definitely made scrounging them a lot more involved, even as I didn't need to convert more than the minimum number to storage-device mode. I certainly had to think about it before I went around turning on teleporters willy-nilly, for instance.
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Oct 13, 2019 15:37
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Update: Despite how spooky the game can be, so far my deaths primarily come from me sitting 200m underwater reading my encyclopedia. Oxygen 30 seconds? Ehhh I got time. I also died once from eating a bad fish and insta-dehydrating like some kind of saltwater mummy, but I was really smart because I pooped all of my inventory onto the ground as I was dying and then just came back and picked it up.
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Oct 13, 2019 19:08
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turtlecrunch posted:Update: Despite how spooky the game can be, so far my deaths primarily come from me sitting 200m underwater reading my encyclopedia. Oxygen 30 seconds? Ehhh I got time. Thank goodness for Alterra's automated life-sustaining medical systems and miniaturized propulsion units built into their emergency bodysuits. Their ability to remote-pilot your limp body back to base while unconscious is a real lifesaver.
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Ok, after I installed the jump jet upgrade I'm starting to turn around on the prawn suit. Grappling from pillar to pillar in the ILZ kicks rear end.
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Oct 17, 2019 05:20
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Previa_fun posted:Ok, after I installed the jump jet upgrade I'm starting to turn around on the prawn suit. Grappling from pillar to pillar in the ILZ kicks rear end. did you equip double grapples, because that's a massive boost in maneuverability with the jump jet upgrade. even if you need to hop out to swap arms to do anything else, it's absolutely worth it to be able to absolutely fly through the water, faster than any leviathans can possibly catch you if you're in trouble, and then have drill arm + grapple for the general area that you want to go mining in. seriously, if you skipped it, watch that video I posted up above, you're underwater spiderman with double grapples.
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Oct 17, 2019 05:32
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Yeah, if you don't have even a little fun swinging around under the thermocline with two grapple arms, I don't know why you even bothered to get all your friends killed and infect yourself with ancient alien helljizz.
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Oct 17, 2019 06:02
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Never not full Spiderman, but the Cyclops will always be my fave. 
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Oct 17, 2019 07:10
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I'm a little grump that Breathedge hasn't gotten around to the base building thing, but it's fun enough once you get the vacuum cleaner.
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WarpedNaba posted:I'm a little grump that Breathedge hasn't gotten around to the base building thing, but it's fun enough once you get the vacuum cleaner. You didn't build a base?
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Oct 17, 2019 11:05
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Up to chapter 2 and I've yet to see anything I can build a base with. There's construction kits, but no way to use 'em.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Never not full Spiderman, but the Cyclops will always be my fave. Dat Cyclops voice: WELCOME ABOARD CAPTAIN
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Oct 17, 2019 19:40
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WarpedNaba posted:Up to chapter 2 and I've yet to see anything I can build a base with. There's construction kits, but no way to use 'em. You need a tool for that, I think it's called the dispenser. It's in chapter 2 somewhere
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Oct 17, 2019 19:40
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Oooooh. poo poo.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:05
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It’s kind of annoying in that Cyclops parts are scattered into very weird areas, unlike most other equipment you can’t get all the pieces from big wrecks; there’s only one big wreck with more than a piece or 2 IIRC, and it’s way, way west. Most cyclops stuff is just laying on the ground in the mushroom forests, which is oddly less enjoyable for me than via wreck treasure.
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Oct 17, 2019 22:15
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I made the Cyclops but it keeps getting attacked by these big worm guys whenever I go further than 0m below the surface so right now I'm just wandering aimlessly trying to find a place where I'm allowed to go down. 
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Oct 18, 2019 22:14
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turtlecrunch posted:I made the Cyclops but it keeps getting attacked by these big worm guys whenever I go further than 0m below the surface so right now I'm just wandering aimlessly trying to find a place where I'm allowed to go down. If they're really big and transparent then you're out of bounds. You can find places to take your Cyclops down if you look for blood kelp.
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Hwurmp posted:If they're really big and transparent then you're out of bounds. No they're sort of red and gray. Thanks for the tip.
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Those guys are only located in a few border regions, generally places that are desolate and free of most other life or interesting things (I wonder why). They are, in addition, one of the very few things that will actually attack your cyclops (along with the translucent blue guys another poster mentioned), so it's less 'everything is messing with me' and more 'one specific anti-cyclops (anti-your character, really) thing is messing with me in a few empty places with nothing significant there (except for one very big exception near the Aurora's front). There are lots of other deep places to take your cyclops, try them. Also, full speed is for running away from those guys (of whom there are only, like, 13 or so in the entire game), running is a very effective tactic, they won't follow you too far. Or, you know, load a PRAWN into your cyclops, then launch it when they show up and punch them to death. That works too. edit: Also, just so it doesn't feel like I'm chiding you, which I don't mean to: If you really really really feel frustrated by this, here is a map showing the locations of those red and grey guys (marked with red circles) and blue guys (marked with blue circles), along with...pretty much everything else in the game. It's super super spoilery, so I don't suggest looking at it, but if it's that or stopping playing...taking a quick look to see just how border-areas-wise they're concentrated in might be worth it. You definitely shouldn't keep it, though, it'll spoil the fun of exploration. Aoi fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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Captain Invictus posted:whenever someone complains about prawn maneuverability this video should just auto-reply to them Prawn = fun, crab = speedboat got it.
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Previa_fun posted:Warpers are IMO the most annoying creatures in the game, especially later on. Frankly, one of the most annoying creatures in any game that I've ever played. Who would have thought that an immortal, teleporting rear end in a top hat that follows you around yanking you out of your vehicle at a distance while you're trying to jump out of a 200 M deep pit would get old.
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Avasculous posted:Frankly, one of the most annoying creatures in any game that I've ever played.  Warpers are not a big deal... Until one day, they realize they are a walking pile of cheat codes  "When you didn't stay dead, mister scuba man. I realized I didn't have to either." Beats reaching the end of the game, only to get eaten by something waiting for you indoors though. But at least that friend of mine wasn't playing Ironman.
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healthily dead.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Those guys are only located in a few border regions, generally places that are desolate and free of most other life or interesting things (I wonder why). So I didn't look at the map but I am trying to sort of go to places I know then just skim down along the bottom from there since I haven't really seen any red kelp. I do keep running into those red/gray guys but I have also had some successes. For example, I have found these two Prawn arm blueprints:  And so now uh...now I suppose I just need to find a blueprint for the Prawn itself.  I also found a nuclear reactor! Yay! Hwurmp posted:Warpers only want you to be healthy Continuing to stay away from these guys because they keep staring at me and being spooky.
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turtlecrunch posted:I haven't really seen any red kelp. better dead than red
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FWIW, blood kelp is actually mostly white - the harvestable spots on it are what give it its name. Also, have you visited the inside of the Aurora yet?
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The nuclear reactor is hands down the best source of energy in the game, simply because you can use it anywhere with extremely small amounts of effort or maintenance, no sunlight, heat, or biomass required. Yes, the rods don't last forever, but at 20,000 power per rod, they last a LONG time, and you can insert up to four of them per reactor (then switch them out when they deplete), even with a water filtration unit, and they pour that power out FAST, so you'll never encounter a brownout because the output rate can't match your current power draws. It really takes multiple water filtration units and constant scanner room use or spotlights or huge amounts of power cell recharging to push even one rod to depletion in less than 6+ hours. The only tricky part is finding the uraninite crystals to make the rods, but even those are surprisingly abundant in certain locations, so it's just a matter of finding those locations and stocking up. They like to form in crevasses of various sorts, out of the way, but it tiny Ryley-sized cracks in the walls in some grand locations, or caves within trench walls, for larger deposits, or even the floor of a certain set of floating land masses.
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Bioreactor and 2 plant pots are my go to. You can do everything you need to do in the base, refill you hunger/thrist, and replant the plants.
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Hmmmmm sounds pretty efficient but you know my current power design doubles as a giant flag to let the aliens know who's the boss of the planet now  Vil posted:FWIW, blood kelp is actually mostly white - the harvestable spots on it are what give it its name. Okay yeah I saw that stuff once but then I lost track of where it was. I'll hit up the Aurora once I stop finding neat caves to drown in.
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One piece of advice that isn't too spoilery: don't hit up the Aurora without having at least a laser cutter and a repair tool on you.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:One piece of advice that isn't too spoilery: don't hit up the Aurora without having at least a laser cutter and a repair tool on you. You know, this is something I wish the stupid PDA warned you about during your first approach. I remember in my first playthrough, going into the Aurora and finding out that most good stuff is locked behind laser cutter/repair tool was super annoying.
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's a candidate for 'Mine's deeper than yours'.
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