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We know that Ambrose was scripted to say something so bad about Roman's real-life illness that he refused to say it. Also wasn't there some sort of pseudo-incest angle with Paul Burchill and Katie Lea or am I remembering that wrong? edit: Prichard's mentioned on his podcast that you want to be careful mentioning stupid ideas to Vince because even if its 3am and you're all tired and just want the meeting to end there's a chance he'll say I LOVE IT and suddenly your stupid idea that you said out of desperation/boredom is on international TV. Seams fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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Oct 19, 2019 09:43
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There was the time Vince wanted Kane's character in See No Evil to have a three foot dick. It's not wrestling but it's still Vince being weird as poo poo.
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In an alternate universe Vince McMahon is living his best life making John Waters style gross weirdo films that Vince Russo rents out to cult classic film snobs in the video store he still runs in 2019
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Seams posted:Also wasn't there some sort of pseudo-incest angle with Paul Burchill and Katie Lea or am I remembering that wrong? It was reported that was what the angle between them was originally going to be but it never actually happened on the show, though people who were primed to expect it read a lot into every interaction between them (this is from memory, maybe there was something more straight-up I missed). Beaver Cleavage aired a few vignettes with a bizarre psuedo-incest thing about his mother or something before they realized how terrible it was and abandoned the idea.
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The difference being Waters knew his stuff was subversive and disturbing while McMahon is convinced his bizarre hangups and fetishes are shared and enjoyed by the vast majority of other people
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the beaver cleavage angle got even worse because it devolved into a shoot angle (bad) and then into an angle about false domestic violence allegations (absolute dogshit). Russo’s original idea of “she’s a 50s housewife with big boobs lol” was somehow better
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Oct 19, 2019 10:18
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Going back to the Jericho question briefly, I think on the first episode of Dynamite he did the cocky pin attempt where he barely puts a foot on a guy and poses and I marked out like I was 8 again. The best
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jesus WEP posted:He’s been waiting 13 years for the perfect moment to deploy the greatest idea he’s heard in his entire life From out in the hallway you hear "MOTHERFUCKER WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT! GOD drat MOTHER FUCKER GET IT TOGETHER VINCE" Then he walks back inside and says nothing else about it. And never uses the gimmick because he can't handle it existing and not being his idea. And then Heidenreich wrote poems. The end.
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Cornette mentioned in a totally throwaway fashion that Bobo Brazil didn’t blade much cause he said he was too black for people to see it but that he bladed in a barbed wire match with Jerry Lawler. My question is... Bobo Brazil had a barbed wire match with Jerry Lawler?? I wasn’t even aware barbed wire matches existed in the 70s
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well technically in memphis they were bobwire matches, and the harrowing threat of bobwire was enough. no body actually used it
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Wire’s your uncle.
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No-one has been abe to find the match because, to avoid confusion he was billed as Barbo Brazil.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Cornette mentioned in a totally throwaway fashion that Bobo Brazil didn’t blade much cause he said he was too black for people to see it but that he bladed in a barbed wire match with Jerry Lawler. My question is... Bobo Brazil had a barbed wire match with Jerry Lawler?? I wasn’t even aware barbed wire matches existed in the 70s Early barbed wire matches were a couple strands wrapped around the ropes. Good enough for an irish-whip and a head gouge spot to get color but not the no-rope stuff Japan made popular.
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extradite THIS! posted:Honestly, like 99.5% of old school wrestlers are/were awful garbage trash people. The amount of those has thankfully decreased in the modern times. terry funk's a cool guy
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Smoking Crow posted:terry funk's a cool guy It really puts things in perspective when you have a sick horse to look after
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If I were ever asked to associate the words Pro Wrestler with someone it would be Terry Funk.
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TheKingslayer posted:If I were ever asked to associate the words Pro Wrestler with someone it would be Terry Funk. for me it's Scott Norton. he's like a cartoon wrestler brought to life with his body proportions and his voice.
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Scott Steiner. The perfect storm of 'ridiculously athletic' and 'ridiculously ridiculous'
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Was it Funk that called Dusty an "egg sucking son of a whore"? Because that poo poo still makes me laugh.
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If I had to guess I'd say yes. Funk has a...way with insults.
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gently caress if I can remember but there's the one promo where he offers his daddy's watch to someone even though he hates them so they'll tag together. Terry Funk is the poo poo.
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TheKingslayer posted:Was it Funk that called Dusty an "egg sucking son of a whore"? Because that poo poo still makes me laugh. Egg sucking dog was the usual insult TheKingslayer posted:gently caress if I can remember but there's the one promo where he offers his daddy's watch to someone even though he hates them so they'll tag together. Terry Funk is the poo poo. Lawler, I think
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Wasn't Jeremy Borash signed by WWE like a year ago? I haven't heard anything about him ever since.
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I was reminded of the wrestlemania 25 botch where Sim Snuka was the fake camera guy and didn't catch Undertaker like, at all... but how was he expected to hold a camera and catch taker simultaneously? Also if that camera had been filming that shot might have been amazing
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Wasn't Jeremy Borash signed by WWE like a year ago? I haven't heard anything about him ever since. he "works with the NXT Brand" WWE doesn't sign people to use them question: does NJPW do Face/heel alignments? if so, what is Tomohiro Ishii (aside from awesome)?
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ishii is a big babyface, trending more cool face than white meat face
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Jonny Nox posted:he "works with the NXT Brand" Yes, but not every match is necessarily going to be heel vs face. Watch Jay White vs Ibushi from this year's G1 for some great heel/face dynamics. Ishii is a face.
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This is only peripherally-related to wrestling talk, but does the WWE Network still use flash player? UFC fightpass uses it, and as far as I can tell, has about a year to roll out something else, and no announced plans to do so.
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Does AEW have conventional heel/face dynamics? The Inner Circle/MJF/probably Lucha Bros are heels but everybody else is on a sliding scale where their heelness is depending on the story they're telling, like Best Friends against SCU or the Bucks against Private Party.
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TheKingslayer posted:Was it Funk that called Dusty an "egg sucking son of a whore"? Because that poo poo still makes me laugh. funk said that dustin rhodes's mother was a whore. he also lit an effigy of dusty rhodes on fire
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ChrisBTY posted:Does AEW have conventional heel/face dynamics? The Inner Circle/MJF/probably Lucha Bros are heels but everybody else is on a sliding scale where their heelness is depending on the story they're telling, like Best Friends against SCU or the Bucks against Private Party. Cody has explicitly said Face/Heel is more dependent on context than a straight alignment. https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1042174325401350144?s=20 edit: even MJF is not a total heel. he's still looking out for Cody (but ONLY Cody) It's pretty cool when Cody says in an interview "I know what MJF is, there's a reason I don't do signings with him any more" Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Sharparoni posted:Going back to the Jericho question briefly, I think on the first episode of Dynamite he did the cocky pin attempt where he barely puts a foot on a guy and poses and I marked out like I was 8 again. The best CMON BAYBAAAAAY god jericho rules
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Jonny Nox posted:question: does NJPW do Face/heel alignments? if so, what is Tomohiro Ishii (aside from awesome)? It's a gradient, where the worst sin of all is running away from a fight. It's why Suzuki-Gun vs Bullet Club matchups are so fun, because Suzuki-Gun are usually the heels, since they're mean, cheating assholes who beat up Young Lions and bully referees and ring announcers. However, they're also a pack of sadists always down for a fight, so when they get matched up with the cowardly Bullet Club, they're the de facto faces, and there's a FUCKLOAD of cheating on both sides. Ishii's faction, Chaos, are former heels who have a slight edge because they're all varying degrees of cocky (most of all Okada, the leader) but are generally the big babyface faction. They'll get cheered most of the time but aren't too bothered by a negative reaction here and there. Los Ingobernables de Japon are, on paper, neutral/tweeners who go back and forth depending who they face but are so popular they just ended up being mega faces who the crowd sometimes boo for fun when they bend the rules.
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shiksa posted:CMON BAYBAAAAAY It’s a classic touch. Also I usually put the NJPW hierarchy from face to heel as follows: Main Force (Tanahashi/Liger/Taguchi/etc) > CHAOS > LIJ > Bullet Club > Suzuki-gun As mentioned LIJ were heel-adjacent for a long while (because Naito was sick of it all) but that caught wind as an anti-authority side of things. In Japan, LIJ are like if Stone Cold had a faction instead of just being a singles star — they tap into the same disaffection and dismissal of authority. The ‘Main Force’ are still the pure white-meat baby faces and unaffiliated guys, whereas CHAOS lean towards cool faces but also can heel it up when need arises. Bullet Club are cowardly foreigners, Suzuki-gun are chaotic evil.
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njpws "levels of heelishness" system is great especially with all the large factions they have. it makes so much sense and it's basically exactly how I would want to classify wrestlers if I ran something. LIJ v SZG matchups 4evr
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I do like the fairly infrequent Bullet Club/Suzuki-Gun interactions too, especially when the scummier guys like Kanemaru get a chance to out-scum Bullet Club.
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Thanks for the NJPW answers. It's a "sometimes" flavor for me, but you've all made me more interested in the product.
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harperdc posted:Also I usually put the NJPW hierarchy from face to heel as follows: Ever since Switchblade took over I'd swap Bullet Club and Suzuki-gun, personally. SZKG are cheating bullies but at least they don't run away. That's the one thing New Japan crowds hate more than any other.
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